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The Jack's Cleaner Clone

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Kmarpa said:
And I have to say, Rez's online persona wasn't always such an asshole. My past experience was quite pleasant. What happened?


You are dead on... I was wondering what changed him during that vacation? I'm all for Rez pushing his seeds but this going after other breeders is just wrong.

I'm blaming POM...lol
 
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I just want to know how a thread like this or rez's other thread dissing Ms. Jills ass doesn't get deleated by a mod when bad ass threads that have half the negativity and ten times the info get deleated???

DOUBLE STANDARDS???
 

Legit_User

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You had an oppurtunity to make your trollish statements go away but you just couldn't do it.
You knew this was going to incite a war. You knew people were going to pick sides.
For the record, I have grown and smoked your gear.
It kiks ass. Your flagship strain is not long lasting of a high like the real ECSD, but you nailed the looks and flavor.
One would think you would be humbled by now.
Your a mentor to HUNDREDS of people (I am sure by no choice of your own) and have the reputation (strain of the year winner)to make those people better,more positive people.
In a world ruled by REZ it would be choas.
Thank god there are breeders like sub that sit there and share online tokes and family pictures with his people. He lets his seeds do the talking and spends his time writing articles and taking awesome bud porn.
You learn that and you would be a kikass dude.
Stay peacefull
 

Danny Danko

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For what it's worth, I love the Jack's Cleaner. (Then again, what do I know, I picked Rez's Sour D for HT Strain of the Year last year). Just kidding, but all BS aside, after reading through this thread and especially the Hey MzJill thread, all I can say is Rez dude, you really need to keep the focus on cannabis and leave the personal attacks out of it. I mean, talking about her age and physical attributes only makes you look vindictive. I'm telling you this as a friend (I think?). Resorting to these types of words and actions isn't the Rez I thought I knew.
 
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Has anybody tried G13*Jacks Cleaner*Grapefruit.
As for the arguing I've found the more i learn the more I realise the less I know. Peoples tastes are different. In my opinion when discussing strains the word opinion is more suitable than the word fact.
 
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Sup mr.Rez.....

Jacks Cleaner, Golden Goat and Schrom are all quite similar in the Flavor and high Dept......

Ive had the Jc for about a year and though not my favorite smoke, it has its usefulness in the cornacopia of pharmacutical needs of MJ......

JC has been found in my circles of friends to be very good as an anti depressant and it seems to relieve neck pain (my friend had a 12" ti rod inserted in his neck after breaking it in a car wreck this year) and he claims when hes high on JC he nolonger "feels" the rod......it also seems to register real low on the anxiety meters for most as well.....

It got to a point this summer when I didnt even want to smoke a Sativa due to the HARD CORE anxiety Amnesia and Fuma were rippin me with...JC came through for me....Allowing me to stay positive.....

and we all must remember, body chemistry plays a big role in how we interpret highs......I know a whole room full of folks who consider Sour Deisel to be a step up from Beasters.....I dont neccc stand in that room, but Ive been known to smoke there....:)

Moonshine
 

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I love a good,spirited,intelligent debate.
Imo,we don't have enough threads like these any more! :smile:
 
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You called it when you said it may stir the pot.
I got alot of respect for you Rez and ANYONE doing something to help this movement. That includes other breeders, activists, potheads who get a few friends growing, people who actually give away the freebees from Gypsy....
We just need to stop all the hating. Stop hating on Rez. Rez stop hating on TGA.
Like water off a ducks back.
We are a communty and quarrels and squabbles are bound to happen. It's all about being professional.

SO STOP HIDING THAT THESE THINGS GO ON WITH YOUR QUICK-DRAW THREAD DELEATING ! !! !

It is much better for a MAN to stand up and explain why he did what he did than to have the tread trashed so the community can't see the whole story.

Do you make us out to be children?? Do you need to hold our hands??

We will not be lemmings! !
 

Angel Eyes

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Yes, I sure miss those threads where one guy says Strain X is mediocre, and says that's not an opinion, it's a fact. Yep, those sure were such intelligent threads... :pointlaug
 
BOG is the most Elite breeder (imho) you can't even buy his good strains anymore... and he's a Bhudist!!! :cuss:
rezdog is definately a close second in eliteness... as far a quality of products I cannot speculate as I have tried neither because to laws in my area it is STILL illegal to smoke erb :badday: ... so right now its legal hawaiin hybrid buds... but.. in terms of elitness :abduct: while Rez may be slightly blunt :joint: from looking at the pictures... I was never impressed with the jacks cleaner... i thought it was always second rate in terms of photographs... compared to say most of the sour diesel pics... a picutre is worth a thousand words...
 
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REZDOG

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Moonshineman said:
and we all must remember, body chemistry plays a big role in how we interpret highs......
Moonshine

Damn right,MSM (and good to see you,bro!)
What's good (or not good) for one could be great for another.

If I'd said I didn't like something from Sensi Seeds,nobody would have given a flying turd,but as it happens,I drop a brief report on an 'elite' clone that isn't,imo,up to par,and it's like I dropped a hydrogen bomb!

I can tell you that when JC was smoked in a room full of potheads,with plenty else to smoke,it wasn't requested often-if that's any indicator.

Anyhow,it's been interesting to see how many people have differing opinions on the jc clone.

As to the thread in my forum where I responded to ms jill,well,that got a bit out of hand on the negativity tip,I was a bit of an asshole-so I left only the opening post,locked it,and sent the rest to the bin.
(Happily,in my forum,if I make a mistake,and am a jerk,as I was on that one,I can do my best to rectify the situation.)


Ciao!
 
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gasp :yoinks:

really though, nobody would have gotten on you about sensi cause most would probably agree.

secretweapon333 whats your formula for grading a breeder as "elite"? having 10 plants to select parents from? please, do tell. this should be comical.
 
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I grew some of JC and ECSD w/DSDV2 and lots of others last year with a buddy from IC mag and anxiously awaited the arrival of all strains goin upstairs wide open.

clones and trees of both just buddin like hell and looking beautiful man this dude had me litterally geekin out with anticipation of the buzz and taste of both strains and.....

then we harvested and when I smoked the jack's cleaner I was immediately turned off by the taste. when I smoked the ECSD it was immediately my favorite. we sold most of the JC and made decent $ which is the best experience that personally I can say benefitted me

MY OPINION
 
I'm going to grab some munchies and take a couple rips, this thread is priceless!

I almost can't believe all the drama because somebody expressed how they really feel about a certain strain. If you wont buy Rez's beans anymore because he's not afraid to voice his opinion thats fabulous....more great genetics for ME. I don't know rez, and i certainly dont worship him, but i do appreciate him taking the time to post a smoke report. Now all you clowns who disagree, grow out some diesel and some jacks cleaner and make your own smoke report!!
 

Tropical Treats

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I totally agree with ^^^. All you people that get mad because someone voice their opinion of a certain strain is the immature one. You might say that people backing Rez up is Rez followers or newbie growers, but you guys that are backing subcool and jill up are the newbie growners. I know for a fact that Rez has awesome genetics, as far as subcool and jill goes, I do'nt even want to try their genetics. Look at the article at High time and the pics of their plants its a total joke!. I am not a Rez follower and I have been growing for 10+ years and I know what good genetics is. And about their recessive breeding technices its just a marketing ploy. I am glad that Rez post his opinion without feal of someone bashing him down. We have the right to know if an elite do'nt live up to its hype. Haters stop hating. and all you peeps that worship sub and jill should go back to their forum to kiss their ass!
Peace,
TT
 

Legit_User

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:violin: :violin: :violin: :deadhorse :deadhorse

It seems the real story here went right over you head. :bat:
Nobody said REZ's stuff was shit. Quite the opposite actually.
Don't go defending shit you don't understand.

I like what ya did with the other thread REZ.
Stay UP bro. :joint:
 

Tropical Treats

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Seem like you the one off track Legit User. This is a smoke report on Jack Cleaner and I was just commenting Rez on him posting his opinion without fear of people attacking him. Your comment on me being off track has nothing to do with this thread. I did not say people was saying Rez's stuff was shit, I was just saying that I know his shit is awesome which is just my opinion on his genetics okay. Keep with the topic

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SmokeyPufmaster said:
I want to thank you Rez, you brought so much traffic to my forum.

You're most welcome.

It's nice to see some snappy opinions,and agreeing to disagree is always heathy.

Over the years,I've posted many grow and smoke reports,sadly they were all vaporised when CW/OG went down,along with 1000s of my pics.
Plenty of those reports were positive,and some of them were negative.
None of them were a strain vs. strain review,except one comparison grow that I did with Nirvana's AK-48 vs. Serious' AK-47. (I liked neither,but the 'ak-48' really sucked-)


Always a pleasure!

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