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The Importance of Landrace Genetics to the Breeder

bluntmassa

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For Jamaica I would be looking for an Indian landrace because the Skunk and all fucked them original landraces up and Indian Hemp was the dank bud way back in the colonial times.

Should be much less tainted than Jamaican lambsbred unless you have some dude way out on a mountain where nobody is growing Skunk for miles which is a little unlikely but possible Jamaica is pretty big.
 

Limeygreen

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To me, wild types are very useful for resistance traits. In many crops, wild types are not producing what you want in terms of a crop but may offer things like mildew resistance and can then be bred with your inbred lines to try to fix this trait. Then the screening of this material turned into an inbred line, checking for your added trait with your desired traits takes a lot of time and effort and evaluation. When you think about true breeding for crops, it is mind boggling how much has to go into it to get a couple decent varieties, to get your resistances, so much gets nixed and you have to keep sifting. As we move forward, not just in Jamaica, it will be interesting to see how many 'breeders' are around when they cannot cut it making resistant and consistent varieties. Right now, in my opinion, people are not doing enough evaluation for their varieties, like inoculate with diseases to see their resistance, using genetic markers to screen through material to see if they have resistant genes then punishing them to see how tolerant or resistant they are, with it being illegal it hasn't been widely done like many other crops. I hope to see in Jamaica and colombia people taking these steps and showing people how much blood sweat and tears it takes to find those special varieties and have the resistance packages and consistent results.
 

Arf

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But ain't landraces where all the truly unique characteristics come from?
Everything characteristic to come from somewhere, but Chimera has it right, if you wanted to breed a small dog like a Chihuahua, it wouldn't make sense to start from a land race ancestor of modern dogs like the Gray Wolf, you would start from something that is closer to your desired outcome, thus saving countless generations of painstaking selection.
 

corky1968

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Everything characteristic to come from somewhere, but Chimera has it right, if you wanted to breed a small dog like a Chihuahua, it wouldn't make sense to start from a land race ancestor of modern dogs like the Gray Wolf, you would start from something that is closer to your desired outcome, thus saving countless generations of painstaking selection.

What are you suggesting be used? A Dutch hybrid or maybe an OG Kush?

There's nothing painstaking about it. Natural selection takes time.
For it's what will help recreate what was lost assuming that's even
possible.
 

mexcurandero420

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For Jamaica I would be looking for an Indian landrace because the Skunk and all fucked them original landraces up and Indian Hemp was the dank bud way back in the colonial times.

Should be much less tainted than Jamaican lambsbred unless you have some dude way out on a mountain where nobody is growing Skunk for miles which is a little unlikely but possible Jamaica is pretty big.

Lambsbread was probably originated from South India, perhaps it was in the earlier days from Kerala.

Keep on growing :)
 

mexcurandero420

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About landraces, Some seems to think that landraces are specimen found in the wild, but these landraces are just plant variaties cultivated by farmers for a long time in a particular environment & selected to be suitable to that environment so to come back to this topic, the topicstarter should look for varieties which can handle the climate in Jamaica.I think the South of India would be best imo.
 

corky1968

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Indoors, but all open pollinated with no selections taking place.

They way landraces and cultivars should be preserved.
 

Roms

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Peace Corky well done with your Kerala repro and preservation but landraces or cultivars always need selection! Ya know how Kerala or Lambsbread can be bad shit smoke if you let the Nature breed without human selection. Some bad pheno without good resin, weak, mutations etc. The selection of good parents to openpoll yah for genetic refinement! Landraces are often not as good as...
 

mexcurandero420

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Peace Corky well done with your Kerala repro and preservation but landraces or cultivars always need selection! Ya know how Kerala or Lambsbread can be bad shit smoke if you let the Nature breed without human selection. Some bad pheno without good resin, weak, mutations etc. The selection of good parents to openpoll yah for a the gen refinement! Landraces are often not as good as...

It needs always selection because nature doesn't do it for you. Traits can disappear , but by good selection you can keep those traits.
What do you mean, landraces are often not as good as....?

Keep on growing :)
 

corky1968

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I didn't want to do any selection because my immediate goals was to maintain all the variations seeing how rare the seeds were.

I'm sure some people who get the seeds now will do some selection in one way or another to suit their needs.
 

Nughugger

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Someone needs to preserve the land races so let's not be to hard on anyone willing to do what the rest don't want to do
 
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