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The IC Organic Growers Community Thread.

ghostmade

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@vortex
thanks bro good shit

@vonforne
I know brother,just looking for data long the lines as books and super sites.lol ive been researching this matter.thanks for the civil tone though.

yall wont believe all the edible ''weeds'' in the woods. common sense would dictate that these would be good for the garden
 
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vonforne

@vortex
thanks bro good shit

@vonforne
I know brother,just looking for data long the lines as books and super sites.lol ive been researching this matter.thanks for the civil tone though.

yall wont believe all the edible ''weeds'' in the woods. common sense would dictate that these would be good for the garden

There are several books on Amazon about edible forest gardening. Permaculture is another you should look into. Don´t know the titles off the top of my head though.
 

bigshrimp

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How is using gmo materials going to negatively effect your grow? I understand the common ethical concerns about gmos, but fail to see how decomposed materials are going to act differently.

Again i don't want to hear shallow rehashed liberal talking points about how bad Monsanto is.
 

VortexPower420

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Well it depends on how you feel about mutated DNA in the environment.

There has been some research done showing a gene crossover from GMOs.

For me it is this, I am on organic gardener for many reasons. first helping a sick planet and second having good food/medicine.

I feel buying into a company/product that doesn't help either just doesn't jive with my ideology

Also do some research on Glyphospate and see how you feel about GMOs, Really gnarly shit.

I have heard from honest Amish farmers surrounded by GMOs and glyphospate that they have not had a live birth in 2 years in their community. Proof enough for me.

A educated look in to GMOs and why to avoid them at all cost I feel is very important.

I understand there is alot of rhetoric about it but most is true.

Monsanto, BASF, Caragil, dupont and others will be the end of us if we are not careful.
 
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vonforne

In my garden I grow only heirlooms.........I cannot imagine growing plants that are genetically altered like the GMO plants from Monsanto. They do not support sustainable farming but exactly the opposite and use big money to stomp it out. Those plants will cross pollinate with the natural plants and only time will tell what the fall out will be in the long run.
 

bigshrimp

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Cross contamination of genetic material is an issue and i dont like the actors that are controlling the tech either, but some talk like genetic modification is evil a priori.
 

VerdantGreen

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sorry for banging on about monsanto, my previous post was kind of a joke :)

but i need to rant about this.
i'm looking after and developing a garden on a big country estate (the gardens of some old farm worker's cottages now owned by a very rich lady)
anyway there is a wheat field next door and they were spraying in there. i asked the estate manager what they were spraying and he told me it was roundup - that they spray with roundup to basically get the wheat to all ripen (as in die) at the same time and it saves them a couple of weeks. this is a posh country estate and not a factory farm. most of their income is from pheasant shoots etc.
i got home and googled this and apparently it is a pretty standard practice to spray roundup on wheat and a number of other crops to kill it and make it go yellow uniformly. this is only a couple of weeks before harvest!
i was very shocked and appalled. from now on i will only buy organic flour, bread and wheat products.

VG
 
When I picked Blueberries as a young lad we were told not to eat the berries, because they get crop dusted with sniper 21 some sort of cool sounding pesticide. We were told to throw our clothes away as well and not even to not chew gum if you had been raking. Round up really that is just plain the yucks. Oh yeah the blueberries got sold to McDonalds for a blueberries pancake promotion not surprising at all.
 
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Carlos Danger

Not happily. The reason we use comfrey is that deep taproot pulls lower nutrients and minerals from subsoil to the surface. Comfrey doesn't like small shoes. Borage on the other hand is almost as good, will take to a container, and you can use the flowers in salad or cocktails as they have a refreshing cucumber taste.
 

VerdantGreen

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a nice frosty little stack of calyxes from one of my Fat Bubba F1's
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Carlos Danger

Here's another bit of infallible advise that turned out wrong. After a month of use I find the statement that the Chaplin 1949 sprayer doesn't clog to be inaccurate. I have to filter everything that goes into it just as much as every other sprayer and at times it seems to clog more. Today I had miniscule bits of soapnut powder clogging it every ten seconds or so. Remove the sprayer head, dig out the clog with a paperclip, put back on and repeat. So just some real world advice when you're digging through old threads and see it highly praised - it's a good sprayer, but it's god damn expensive and isn't the non-clog dream I was told it was.
 
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vonforne

Carlos- I went with the cheaper Hudson sprayer and am happy so far with its performance.

and earlier in the thread I was talking of doing late planting for security reasons. I went out last night for the first time since I planted these girls. They were planted next to a wetlands area. This place has tall grass growing and the soil is kept moist for the most part even in a dry season. Nice soil with a layer of silt underneath where in previous years the flooding has brought to the area.

We have had rain the past few weeks and to this area is very good for this time of year and very good for growth of any kind.

Here are a few shots of some plants that have been in this spot for about 3.5 weeks.

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and another thing the rain has brought..........

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a good excuse to be out there......
 
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Carlos Danger

Good looking girls! It's been a wet year here too. I'm giving the huge number of toads props for keeping bugs down.
 
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vonforne

Normally we do not have Oyster mushrooms out this late but due to the wet weather.......and cool weather we do this year. This spot is near a giant Willow stand that kicks out the Oysters. Just hope the cold does not hit us early this year that is the only thing that worries me with outdoor plants.........we had a freeze that killed of the outdoor crop last year the 2nd of October.

Cross those fingers.

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