Plants have 2 sets of chromosomes, one from dad one from mom. A+B. As an dioecious outcrosser cannabis is very heterogeneous, there is no homogeneous cannabis varieties. If you achieve what you say, then you would obtain dad AA and mom BB that is your objective right? AA and BB are homogeneous. there are homogeneous plants and animals (like laboratory rats), but not a single cannabis plant yet. As you stated its a one step winner and it would be a great tool for breeders if possible and made available.
All I say is people have been trying before without success for more than 20 years and its not new. I even gave you tips that might help you (use polyploids and/or mixoploids).
Btw, regarding your inbreding experiment, maybe your variety is still highly heterozigous on most genes, thats why you keep on inbreeding (selecting for heterozigous plants) as they did with C99 during many generations. The thing is it segregates and is not stable, thus we are forggeting our objective of doing the experiment of double haploids -> obtaining stability instead of segregation.
Thule no problem with polyploid cannabis. Just arguing that it could be the natural mechanism for evolution, and maybe some scientist have an interest on saying its artificial to profit from it. Some plants undergo WGD due to stresses and also others duplicate when crossed with very distant relatives (allotetraploids), why not cannabis? More INDEPENDENT research must be done, without conflict of interests.
Sorry for not believing in the "scientists bible dogmas" and their "rediscovering" of medical uses after a century of persecution worldwide for the benefit of the pharma corps oligopoly.
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I don't want to stray too far offtopic (just chimed in to correct the science parts, even if it's not strictly talking about haze).
but it seems like you have more an emotional not a logical opposition to scientific discovery. 'no one has achieved it yet so it's not possible' just seems like a really conservative, unproductive attitude to me. also your linking of this to medical uses and big pharma. this is plant science/biology, nothing to do with the pharmaceutical industry. the only similarity is pharma employs scientists too, but we're talking different scientists in different fields here, scientists are not some hivemind. if anything you should focus your criticism on the big ag companies in this case, not big pharma.
refusing to read into the science yourself also won't stop the big ag companies from using that science and monopolising a big part of the future legal market.
especially with cannabis, it has been pretty much ignored by most mainstream scientists, if there was any research it was into medical uses, but not how the plant grows.
so it's logical there are many techniques that have not yet been achieved or perfected in cannabis eventhough they have been used longer in other crops, because no competent scientist affiliated with a well-equiped lab would ever dare to work on cannabis while it's still completely underground, too difficult to get funding, to many legal/paperwork loopholes to jump through. And you're just not going to achieve everything in your basement or an ill-equiped lab.
only recently interest from mainstream science is really gearing up so my guess would be we'll see cannabis doubled haploids in a few years from now.
Btw, regarding your inbreding experiment, maybe your variety is still highly heterozigous on most genes, thats why you keep on inbreeding (selecting for heterozigous plants) as they did with C99 during many generations. The thing is it segregates and is not stable, thus we are forggeting our objective of doing the experiment of double haploids -> obtaining stability instead of segregation.
yeah, it's possible I accidentally selected plants slightly more heterozygous than the average, but I think that's not a likely explanation. I also didn't select from very big numbers of plants, so the chance I always found a very heterozygous plant among the more homozygous plants, and that for several generations in a row, is pretty unlikely I think.
I think it's much more likely the initial assumption is wrong that it is so hard to create an inbred cannabis line. I think there is one quote from sam where he mentions something about vigour/fertility declining too much in the s3/s4 or so?
but besides that quote from sam who actually tried it himself, I just see everyone copying that quote instead of ever trying for themselves.
I did, and my conclusion is that it's totally possible to self cannabis 6 times, and to get plenty of fertile, healthy seeds, with 100% germ ratio, which grow into vigourous seedlings. it just takes time, but it's not difficult or impossible.
if your hypothesis was correct, you'd think my s6 might not behave as inbred as it should at s6, but it would certainly throw more mutants and be less vigourous than an earlier generation, let's say s1 or s2.
that is not the case, germination rate went up and number of mutants down. vigour did decrease slightly over the generations of selfing I think, but nothing as drastic as some people expect (and I don't care about a bit reduced vigour anyway, since the pupose is to make f1-hybrids with it, not grow out the selfed line like it is). and I have noticed no effect on fertiliy at all, never encountered a sterile plant (only lethal mutants that won't make it past seedling stage, which is effectively sterile too).