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The Haze discussion thread
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its worth taking into account ,,,,,,all served money,,, not love or truth .,enjoy the genetic you like,, respect //admire who you like ,,but we aint trying to understand the gospels here ,,
Budz Lightyear
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3029 A.D.
"....And on the Fourth day, the Lord did make the Haze.. And he looked upon his haze and he said "for You are a good Haze"... And the haze was good...."
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Nevil was the guy that breed silver haze while working at Sensi lets not leave that out and he also breed other indica lines while there not Ben. Nevil has posted about the lines he made for Sensi.
So SativaScience why did Sensi not breed with what is possibly the most famous Male plant ( HzC ) in Holland after Nevil left Sensi if they have the HzC ?.
What other lines dose Sensi have that the HzC was used to produce.
Nevil left Sensi and then continued breeding and sold seed on consignment to GHS.
There seams to be a lot of focus on firstly discrediting Nevil then claiming the plant library Nevil left shanti have now died and then reinforcing set clones as being legitament.
A blind man can see whats playing out here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHnASjy1CzY
shanti told me nevil began some of the rumours about certain plants being dead ,
he was also the one that helped spread the "nevil met the haze brothers" rumor , that was spread then by other mns folk,
cant believe everything folks say , or type , they may not know the truth and were perhaps given misinformation to begin with..
the only certainty we can be sure of is something we did ourselves really ,
the rest involves trust ,, and some folks flat out bullshit and or repeat bullshit ,
we see a lot of that in this very thread even .....
shanti told me nevil began some of the rumours about certain plants being dead ,
he was also the one that helped spread the "nevil met the haze brothers" rumor , that was spread then by other mns folk,
cant believe everything folks say , or type , they may not know the truth and were perhaps given misinformation to begin with..
the only certainty we can be sure of is something we did ourselves really ,
the rest involves trust ,, and some folks flat out bullshit and or repeat bullshit ,
we see a lot of that in this very thread even .....
Its a shame how money fucks this community up... I just had some bonehead in a Youtube chat trying to argue that Piff is not haze, and its a clone only that he has access to...
I hate the clone only community, and the amount of Ethug groups that target naïve people with money for cuts.. Targeting, and trying to discredit anyone that speaks facts, and pushes people to pop old seeds.... They linger around places like this trying to push their agenda, and new clone only crosses/clones..
I hate the clone only community, and the amount of Ethug groups that target naïve people with money for cuts.. Targeting, and trying to discredit anyone that speaks facts, and pushes people to pop old seeds.... They linger around places like this trying to push their agenda, and new clone only crosses/clones..
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Why is it that not one of you causing the drama in my thread behave the same in other peoples threads.
I post pictures of my grows and share my experiences and i end up with the same people over and over trying to discredit me or out right ridiculing me and trash my thread.
Lets get something straight here unlike some i have no vested interests or interests in any future seed sale or any type of cannabis bisness.
I am friends with both Shanti and Nevil.
I thought this was a discussion about Haze but it seams more to be a Nevil inquisition.
Here is a tip if you dont have something nice to say dont post stay well away from this thread.
I post pictures of my grows and share my experiences and i end up with the same people over and over trying to discredit me or out right ridiculing me and trash my thread.
Lets get something straight here unlike some i have no vested interests or interests in any future seed sale or any type of cannabis bisness.
I am friends with both Shanti and Nevil.
I thought this was a discussion about Haze but it seams more to be a Nevil inquisition.
Here is a tip if you dont have something nice to say dont post stay well away from this thread.
yes please , do tell ,
im keen to hear since i never had any dealings with him let alone bad ones ,
lets hear what he had to say ....
why send my post to scott ,
thats a bit like running to the teacher with a playground story isnt it ?
im not sure he would be too worried to be honest ,
from what i can tell scott is a mature adult ,
he may not know all the history before his time and was fed some lies by someone,
that he repeated and likely regrets doing ,
but i think he is a solid dude and pretty honest as well as generous with his time and towards friends ,
in my experience with him anyhow ....
]definitely one of the "good guys" in what is sometimes a corrupt and seedy business ,
with some of the worst shills of any business too ,,
i always liked the silver haze ..must try it again ../never understood the fuss about ssh i thought it was a backward step in quality,,, i guess the easy growth faster time yeild made it popular
most only give credit to what they run /sell ,,real ones give credit even if they hate the person or they buisness rival as to there respect for the plant ,,,,overtime you see who is who an what is what is what ...i met lots of bulshiters liers snitches thieves and time wasters in my years but ive never had one introduce themselves as such lol
Not that this is the defoliation thread LOL...But that last test I did of large blocks that I think that I posted about here when the debate was raging a few pages back, the results are in, well wet weights at least. I did 3 blocks of just over 60m2 ea. of sea of green 17 plants per m2 and DLI and light was high and was very good crop overall so no other factors limiting weight, PPFD is peaking at over 1600 in midday in the greenhouse now. Light supplementation is high at approx 400 ppfd when outside light dips and climate control was good with no issues this run, temps were high night and day in mid summer and no major pest or mold issues and buds were super fat and dense...anyway the results were...The winner was the decent but not too heavy single defoliation where most fan leaves were removed but fan leaves on branches left, then the " hardly any defoliation" quite a way behind that (we tried to do a no defoliation but after a few days it was a huge mess and we had to go do a very little) and just behind that was the intense defoliation where hardly a leaf was left around 2 weeks into flower, stripped to almost naked sticks and emerging leaves. Less botritus losses on the extreme defoliation as compared to the minimal defoliation though. So for me the result confirms for me what I already believe, that at this density some defoliation is needed and beneficial and cost effective in terms of labour verse gains, for a lower density Id do less and for a higher density I'd do more..
The growth above was not seen on any plants as a result of defoliation and we had maybe 200 different tester plants in there as well as multiple production plants of ours, although this above growth was seen in some later in the flower, the more tropical sativa in the lineage, the more seen, relative to a day or 2 with hot temps when we had wetwall issues etc.. It is entirely a genetic response to an environmental trigger, I'd guess that for most that trigger is heat combined with high light. High light on its own won't generally trigger it as the plants come from areas where the midday light could almost be double or more what we achieve in indoor rooms (measured), for example I try achieve 1000 PPFD at least at canopy indoor but at the moment my meter maxes out at 2000ppfd when i go aim it at the sun during the midday hours.. But a plant outside won't show that growth, but in the greenhouse with high but less light, but a temp spike or two and it will..Don't shoot the messenger hahahhahaha
SativaScience
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( I never said anything about Shanti losing anything dont know what you are talking about. I also know nothing of reinforcing any clones as legit. I have grown lots of mr nice haze hybrids over the years and found some really great plants. Looking forward to trying some of his newer hybrids soon.)
Budz Lightyear
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The Amnesia "core" pheno has been my fav/daily/benchmark/desert Isalnd pick for a good few years now I cant lie. Everything else is a nice change, good for a break, but I always come back to that. I've never actually even grown it myself either, lol, luckily theres plenty of it around locally so I can grow other stuff for a bit of variety. But I always come back to that.
Montuno
...como el Son...
Yo, sin embargo, si he cultivado Silver Haze 9 de Sensi, y me decepcionó: muy buen sabor, y un efecto muy alegre al principio ... pero cuando llevas cierto tiempo fumandola, la tolerancia hace que parece que estés fumando kiff marroquÃ...
I have, however, grown Sensi's Silver Haze 9, and I was disappointed: very good taste, and a very happy effect at the beginning... but when you've been smoking it for a while, the tolerance makes it seem like you're smoking Moroccan kiff...
I have, however, grown Sensi's Silver Haze 9, and I was disappointed: very good taste, and a very happy effect at the beginning... but when you've been smoking it for a while, the tolerance makes it seem like you're smoking Moroccan kiff...
, I am quite sure of it, after the Swiss period no NEW crosses were created with the male C, just as happened a few years earlier with sensiseeds and others ... I know it can hurt, but the truth makes us grow ....
However I am sure that with a bit of luck you will find some exceptional plants in those seeds ....
It becomes more and more difficult to find great plants in sensi, it can happen, but it is increasingly rare
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