There's a few misinformation in those podcasts, but most of it is good.
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There's a few misinformation in those podcasts, but most of it is good.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
I dont know much about them but Notsodog seamed to know a lot but he got a few things wrong some i wont touch on as its privet and not my place.
Nevil worked by him self the seed Green House seed got came from Nevil on consignment Nevil was not a partner in Green House seed Shanti his partner and Arjan and his partner were the owners of Green House seed.
All the Haze work and Haze hybrids Nevil made were done by him The Mango haze was breed by shanti.
OldCoolSativa
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Think what you will of Shantibaba, but give him his due for Mango Haze, which has to be one of the best haze hybrids of all time. I found a mango haze leaner in Angel's Breathe and made F2s using the most sativa-leaning male (he looked Thai influenced to me) and found an incredible, huge-yielding, dreadlocked-calyx-budded, churchy, trippy haze plant that I've kept for a few years now, and forms the basis for a lot of my breeding work. If I were to re-start a haze selection and breeding program, I'd start with MNS Mango Haze and repeat the process through to F3.
The only thing new I learned from that podcast was that Sensi bailed Nevil out of jail in return for ownership of The Seed Bank of Holland.
Interesting point in that podcast was at first Three outfits received Haze from Sam, others that got Haze from him was after he did a open pollination. The first three guys found some good plants, those that had the later Haze, not much came from them.
was glad to hear Positronics was one of the three.
was glad to hear Positronics was one of the three.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
I was lucky to get hold of the mango haze test seed way back and i have praised MH for almost 20 years now i also consider Mango haze very highly and one of my favored haze hybrids i have. But the facts matter Nevil did breed NH SSH N5Hz and many others him self facts matter.
I like Scott call him a friend his a great breeder is his own right and going by the posts in CW almost 20 years ago Mango Haze was a tribute strain for the birth of his first child.
Loving these P53 Haze hybrids(A5bx x FP) x (A5bx x Mac) all @77 days. Looks like 90 days for most. Musky skunky dank weed with something I can't put my finger on. Most of these have the same terp profiles. The pine pheno(not pic here) is 1 of my fav in this batch. The last pic is also 1 I have my eye on. All are killer.
TheDarkStorm
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Mat probably thinks he was in holland in the 80's an seen things himself....only thing is he wasnt..so has to rely on the same as most....
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
The boards are full of half truths lots of bull shit and some facts thrown in so no surprise you see it on podcasts now to but he was spot on on a few things the G13 story was on the mark.
Nevil put the haze story down on paper ward for ward so that is documented and one day it will be posted.
Nevil in the years i talked to him his story's never changed every one thinks he loved going to cups or he loved being in Holland but all he wanted was to come home.Few know they tried to kidnap him and take him back to the states and if they had he of got life to never see freedom again.Few know the cost he paid for spreading seed all over the world.
I got to know Nevil and know the human side of the guy they called the king of cannabis and i hate seeing try hards and people putting down a guy they know little or nothing about most of it is from out right jealousy.
His 2 year anniversary is coming up in a week we as a community are poorer for him leaving but his work lives on and will still after we are all gone that is the legacy he left.
Nevil put the haze story down on paper ward for ward so that is documented and one day it will be posted.
Nevil in the years i talked to him his story's never changed every one thinks he loved going to cups or he loved being in Holland but all he wanted was to come home.Few know they tried to kidnap him and take him back to the states and if they had he of got life to never see freedom again.Few know the cost he paid for spreading seed all over the world.
I got to know Nevil and know the human side of the guy they called the king of cannabis and i hate seeing try hards and people putting down a guy they know little or nothing about most of it is from out right jealousy.
His 2 year anniversary is coming up in a week we as a community are poorer for him leaving but his work lives on and will still after we are all gone that is the legacy he left.
TheDarkStorm
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A man who had to live his life in hidding...with people then trying to taking credit for his work .... Jack herer aka silver haze (not silverpearl x haze)was a classic case....
I have a question...does panama from ace contain blood from a f4 nevils haze in it.? .I know about the 3 other south american lines in it...
Montuno
...como el Son...
...I thought that the Panama of CannaBioGen and A.C.E. was a hybrid of two Central American and one South American...
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
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Montuno
...como el Son...
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(Joking only):
Let's go... Your best haze hybrid against my A.C.E - CannaBioGen - Tropical Seeds Company material...
Material "not marketed or commercialized "A.C.E.:
Psilocibo's Malawi-Bangui; outdoor 39°N; cheap android phone camera:
Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui
Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui, (borned June-7), in October-25:
Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui
Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui, November-1:
Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui
Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui, November-1:
Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui
More Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui in 2016-November-11:
Tallo inferior
Psilocybo's Malawi Bangui buds, in 2016-December-7, the night before of being recolected:
pd:
...The birds were glued to the buds, heh, heh...
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Montuno
...como el Son...
It is not the variety or strain Malawi, but the genetics is from A.C.E.. A selection n croos of Malawi * Bangui Haze looking for the most sativa and the most cheerful side (without any "cloudy" effect in its psychoactivity) of its Malawi and Congo genetics by Psilocybo.
They are the same genetics and varieties that come out of the commercial packages blooming from mid-October to mid-November, but selected without the remora of having to take into account their adaptability to indoor, or try to reduce their flowering playing with the commerciality vs quality compromise, we could say...
This Psilocybo's special cross of the Asociación de Cultivadores Españoles (A.C.E..) strains Bangui Haze ("most Congolese sativa feno")* Malawi ("most Tropical sativa pheno)]was harvested on 8-December...
No doubt Nevil did great stuff with cannabis IMO. Many also went through the same hardships from the failed drug war policy. I don't see anyone putting Nevil down. Some might think Nevil didn't do anything special and that's not putting him down that's what's called an opinion. It's OK for others to not share yours.
A5hbx x Fp)x(A5hbx x Mac
yeah he did good stuff, but it is all gone. now it is all watered down hybrids. he didn't recommend to inbreed NLhazes many times.
it is apparent like original idea beats those dumb inbreeding of NLhaze. ACE got wonderful idea to combine beautiful a5 cut from Karma/Sammy and combined it with precious selection of malawi gold genetics. and you can see in ACE thread how much it was successful. malawi took it on another level for sativa lovers. of course northern lights lovers will not like it.. wonderful haze hybrid phenos popped out and NL side was eliminated in those great phenos. great concept and great results from it. big difference from those who just inbred it and tried to cash on Nevil ´s name. proof is in plants.
it is apparent like original idea beats those dumb inbreeding of NLhaze. ACE got wonderful idea to combine beautiful a5 cut from Karma/Sammy and combined it with precious selection of malawi gold genetics. and you can see in ACE thread how much it was successful. malawi took it on another level for sativa lovers. of course northern lights lovers will not like it.. wonderful haze hybrid phenos popped out and NL side was eliminated in those great phenos. great concept and great results from it. big difference from those who just inbred it and tried to cash on Nevil ´s name. proof is in plants.
Goodherb
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Blessed love .
It is great, works Nevil did . It didn't started an ends with him(RIP). From what was invision by sativa's brother's (Haze brothers) to Sam Skunkman to the consumer's. It sativa in general , HAZE'S in particular, has run the gamut, but pockets survive ,to be reemerge ,refine even.
Each man work stand on merit. so now with above mentioned names, they're also apostles/practitioner, like in Golli, Seedsman , johnny Chicago,ojd , MadMac,yosammy,karma-ace seed not to forget all Haze Lovers ,on this site (icmag)big up !
JAH Guidance!
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
I dont know of any other person that has contributed as much as Nevil in the Seed industry or of any others the US Government tried to Kidnap from Holland for cannabis do you ?.
I have seen a lot of personal attacks directed towards Nevil by set people in this forum lots of members know whats going on there not blind.
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