bongwater923
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I've got seedlings a week old. They are under my 400wt MH at 50% power. When should I crank it up to full 400wt power? peace...bongwater
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bongwater923
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Hello?........Anybody home? I know hand watering takes allot of time. Does anyone visit this site daily like I do? peace...bongwater
merkaba is right, straight outta the cloner or plugs to the 1000w is no problem
also, I wouldn't go 24hr for veg
18/6, imo, is the best for veg
they need that 6 hours for a little bit of rest
also, I wouldn't go 24hr for veg
18/6, imo, is the best for veg
they need that 6 hours for a little bit of rest
You're wasting energy by using that 1k or 400 on seedlings
20/4 is best for veg also
20/4 is best for veg also
Sirius seeds
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hello fellows, i would ask you for an advice, i will use coco brick for my next grow and i would like to know if after the expanssion of the brick i should flush more the coco before i put my seedlings in it ?
YES!... If you soak the brick and reconstitute it, then take a reading of the runnoff, it will be sky high. I have a special bucket that I do my bricks in. The bucket has many holes for drainage in the bottom. I reconstitute the brick and let it drain. I re-soak it 3 to 4 more times and the ec of the runoff will be just a little higher than my tap water. Then I know most of the salt and residue are rinsed off and it's ready to rock.
mgk
Sirius seeds
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YES!... If you soak the brick and reconstitute it, then take a reading of the runnoff, it will be sky high. I have a special bucket that I do my bricks in. The bucket has many holes for drainage in the bottom. I reconstitute the brick and let it drain. I re-soak it 3 to 4 more times and the ec of the runoff will be just a little higher than my tap water. Then I know most of the salt and residue are rinsed off and it's ready to rock.
mgk
thanks a lot for the advice, i will do as you wrote, i emailed BIONOVA to ask them the same question as its their product i will use, i will post their answer when i get it.
thanks again fellow
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YES!... If you soak the brick and reconstitute it, then take a reading of the runnoff, it will be sky high. I have a special bucket that I do my bricks in. The bucket has many holes for drainage in the bottom. I reconstitute the brick and let it drain. I re-soak it 3 to 4 more times and the ec of the runoff will be just a little higher than my tap water. Then I know most of the salt and residue are rinsed off and it's ready to rock.
mgk
Great advice!
I do the same thing in my special bucket. I got lazy once and my poor Og kush paid the price. I then charge it with cal mag before using it.
bongwater923
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Roasthog! I like the way you think bro! Got pics? Gowing critical rapido in 100% coco with A.N. nutes & tapwater under 400wt hps. Same mind set as yours. So far so good. How much do you feed going in to week 3? Thanks in advance...peace...bongwater
Sirius seeds
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hello fellows, i have another question about coco growing, i read that the ideal Ph for nutrients solution is 5.8-6.0 in veg and 6.0-6.2 in flower, i will put clay pebbles at the bottom of my containers and i wonder if i must buffer the clay pebbles at 5.8-6.0 ?
thanks
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bongwater923
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I've got the same headache of dealing with the run-off. Sometimes, it gets so fustrating I think of packing in coco growing; but then I look at the results
I used to take her out of the tent for watering but now she's so big it's a risky mission trying to get her out. I was thinking of getting the lid of a tupperware box or something similar to rest the pot on; then have a small aquarium pump on stanby to suck out the water into a large container, then throw it out.
I use a small wet-vac to suck the runoff out of my drip trays. Simple and easy. Be careful though if you are using air-pots as you can vac coco out of the holes! peace...bongwater
I run my pH a little lower than that.. not saying that's right or wrong.. it's just what i do.. I aim for 5.8 or so both in flower and veg.. I would not use the clay pebbles in the bottom.. ur better off with coco right to the bottom..
mgk
Sirius seeds
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thanks maynardgkrebs but i found the advice of the clay pebbles in posts of the OP and i found it a good idea for letting the runoff flow out without sweeping away coco and the clay pebbles will allow more oxygen to come in the pot. anyway i already bought the pebbles....so i will buffer them at 5.8 Ph i think.
Sirius seeds
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i forgot, here is the infos i received from bionova today :
Information coco-bricks and -slabs
Coco bricks and slabs are made of the compressed fibres from in between the outer shell and the nut of the fruits of the coconut tree.
These trees need brackish water in order to be able to produce coconuts.
That is why you only find coconut trees along the coast lines of tropical areas.
India and Sri Lanka are the main producing countries of these products. Inherent to their growing situation, those fibres contain high amounts of Potassium, Sodium and Chloride, because those are the most common elements in saltwater.
During the whole process of milling and cleaning, these fibres are flushed a couple of times in fresh water. During the rainy season that is no problem, but in the dry season it happens sometimes there is not enough clean fresh water, because the demand of coco-products is getting higher and therefore the water has already been used a couple of times. The producers are not allowed to use precious drinking water, so it may happen that the fibres are not washed well enough and sometimes they are even washed in seawater…
In some cases the EC (Electric Conductivity) is well above EC 1.0 mS/cm, caused by high amounts of Potassium, Sodium and Chloride. This may cause problems for plants.
The only way to avoid those problems is to flush the bricks or slabs after they have been watered in. Flushing Procedure:
Flush the watered-in coco fibres three times with their own volume of water(8-10Litres).
Let it drain for a few hours in between the flushes. Measure the EC of the drain after the last flush, it should be the same or a little higher then the water used to flush.
The above is a simple but effective way to prevent incidental problems with coco-bricks or slabs. Our coco-soil mixture is washed by ourselves.
For compressed bricks and slabs this is impossible for obvious reasons
Bio Nova can not change the weather, nor the other circumstances under which these products are grown and produced.
We are dedicated to bring a good product for a fair price on the market.
Sometimes though, in the case of compressed coco products this may mean, that you will have to put a little more effort in it to get the best out of your growing system.
We are convinced if you take the above steps (only if necessary), you will be a very satisfied customer.
Waldemar Boot
Bio Nova b.v.
Information coco-bricks and -slabs
Coco bricks and slabs are made of the compressed fibres from in between the outer shell and the nut of the fruits of the coconut tree.
These trees need brackish water in order to be able to produce coconuts.
That is why you only find coconut trees along the coast lines of tropical areas.
India and Sri Lanka are the main producing countries of these products. Inherent to their growing situation, those fibres contain high amounts of Potassium, Sodium and Chloride, because those are the most common elements in saltwater.
During the whole process of milling and cleaning, these fibres are flushed a couple of times in fresh water. During the rainy season that is no problem, but in the dry season it happens sometimes there is not enough clean fresh water, because the demand of coco-products is getting higher and therefore the water has already been used a couple of times. The producers are not allowed to use precious drinking water, so it may happen that the fibres are not washed well enough and sometimes they are even washed in seawater…
In some cases the EC (Electric Conductivity) is well above EC 1.0 mS/cm, caused by high amounts of Potassium, Sodium and Chloride. This may cause problems for plants.
The only way to avoid those problems is to flush the bricks or slabs after they have been watered in. Flushing Procedure:
Flush the watered-in coco fibres three times with their own volume of water(8-10Litres).
Let it drain for a few hours in between the flushes. Measure the EC of the drain after the last flush, it should be the same or a little higher then the water used to flush.
The above is a simple but effective way to prevent incidental problems with coco-bricks or slabs. Our coco-soil mixture is washed by ourselves.
For compressed bricks and slabs this is impossible for obvious reasons
Bio Nova can not change the weather, nor the other circumstances under which these products are grown and produced.
We are dedicated to bring a good product for a fair price on the market.
Sometimes though, in the case of compressed coco products this may mean, that you will have to put a little more effort in it to get the best out of your growing system.
We are convinced if you take the above steps (only if necessary), you will be a very satisfied customer.
Waldemar Boot
Bio Nova b.v.
bongwater923
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last adition to this thread should be to keep nutes low
better be safe than sorry
peace all
Howdy BC! Great thread! If you could afford an old hippie growing in coco for the first time a little enlightenment, I would appreciate it.
I have 3Xcritical rapido in 100% coco, under 400wt HPS in 3 gal airpots. I use 1/2 tap and 1/2 RO water. I am testing PH with the dye method and I try to keep it (as best as I can tell) at about 6. They are 3 weeks old. I am scared to death of "overnuting" and I have fed them once lightly with like 0.2ml of AN connoisseur A&B, and a minute amount of bud candy. I am including a rather poor picture of the one baby that I am most concerned about. She seems small and pale to me. She has a brown spot on one leaf and sometimes is taco'd early in the lights on cycle. Thanks in advance for your help, I read this thread daily! peace...bongwater
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Sirius seeds
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hello bongwater,
im not an expert in coco growing but i understand you must flush several times your coco with water if the coco comes from slabs or brick, the ecof the runoff must be just a little higher than the ec of your tapwater before planting in it, what ec are you feeding them and what is the ec of the runoff ? you must treat coco growing like hydroponic medium not soil growing and when you fed you must always water the coco with an excess of 20% or more, i feel your plant are hungry and the brown spot left me thinking you should lower your Ph, 5.5-5.8 will be better i think in veg, check this chart https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=46811&pictureid=1093973
im not an expert in coco growing but i understand you must flush several times your coco with water if the coco comes from slabs or brick, the ecof the runoff must be just a little higher than the ec of your tapwater before planting in it, what ec are you feeding them and what is the ec of the runoff ? you must treat coco growing like hydroponic medium not soil growing and when you fed you must always water the coco with an excess of 20% or more, i feel your plant are hungry and the brown spot left me thinking you should lower your Ph, 5.5-5.8 will be better i think in veg, check this chart https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=46811&pictureid=1093973
bongwater923
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Thx Farm! I couldn't wait and flicked it off. Here is a picture of her
at 2.5 weeks. The one thing I did notice about her is her cotyledons
(I'll use your spelling) were the first to wither and die out of the 3 plants born at the same time. Any comments? peace...bongwater
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Nothing to worry about
Once my seedlings get as far along as yours ill usually pop those leaves off anyway
They don't serve much purpose once ya start feeding them a little
Once my seedlings get as far along as yours ill usually pop those leaves off anyway
They don't serve much purpose once ya start feeding them a little
