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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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nomaad

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Nomaad - I pulled some receipts out and figured out a "garden site" package..comes in at just under 5K no labor - You'll be able to disconnect the system and move it anywhere and it'll be the same that I'm doing that can do up to 120 300s (if you increase the 2500 gal tank to a 5000 gal tank or get another 2500)

All that could be broken down and moved to wherever you'd just have to get the main tank full and do your tea then go.

Sounds like a viable option for a larger future grow in another spot.

Inspiration and a visit from a wise grower came together today and after saying I haven't given it any thought, humboldtlocal and I crunched out a plan for my watering system and its barely going to cost me anything. I am going to use the well pump my house is on (50psi) to run the thing and I am going to use 1/2" inline emitter tubing.. and some kind of fertilizer injector to mix in my feed solutions.

Anybody have wisdom on which injector to buy? I have heard people shittalk dosatrons... dripworks carries the mixrite. Thoughts?
 
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planty

Do not put anything thick through an injection mixer..that is for putting shit like 30-10-10, 20-20-20 in to a stock solution and puttin that on em. I wouldn't want to put a thick veg nutrient like NutraMix 1 or Organic Gem through it..I knew as soon as I read that HL came by your spot that you were going to use the emitter tube.

My buddy down the road who is on the blue bag(growmore) special uses a youngs ...they all work
 
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Another note.. you can not put 50 psi through your irrigation system, make sure you get a pressure regulator or you will blow it all apart!
 

Tom Hill

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Just make sure you do the maths on that 1/2 inch tubing @ about 40 psi. We went over this somewhat,, You can't take care of the whole ball of wax with 1/2 ''. Need to come off that 1 1/2 several times 1 1/2 to 1/2 t's then service X amount of plants per 1/2. @ 50 psi (plan for 40), I'm guessing around 4-6 plants? What you want to do is to go buy several models of mid-psi-range tester sprinklers and test them out (I know you, this is what you should do). Then settle for nothing less than the perfect doughnut-shaped full-surface water saturation system. Otherwise, you'll find yourself looking to the hose for lack of planning/trial/error etc. -T
 

Tom Hill

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doubled-apposing hose-clamps won't blow, done propper, but those wimpy self-locking connectors surely will, tehee.
 

nomaad

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No plans to have any kind of thick solution. I can mix my solution at half strength and then push it thru as 50% of the mix, right? That's what I am going for. I am planning on having at least 4 zones, but maybe I need more like 6 for 30 plants. I really want to try to avoid a bunch of spaghetti and emitters... is this possible. HL thinks so.

I have used those self locking connectors on many a water system in El Honduragua... and I've seen em blow.

Thanks for the input. I will keep this all in mind.
 
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planty

Yea I like the twist connectors. They're great. Is a pressure regulator really that big a deal? Are you running the sprayers @ 50 PSI tom? I heard they turn in to misters at pressures higher than 35...? I went with 4 green 360* ones per 6' and will run them @ about 20 psi (hopefully) ...should give me a 4' circle and about 14 gph out of each one..that regulator will hopefully be here monday or tuesday.

Some bull shit low 30s night temps are keeping me inside till the 21st...Which isn't too much of a bad thing...my ladies will have had a full 3 weeks after up potting
 

nomaad

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The emitter tube I am looking at says it runs from 10-50psi. Can't I just do more plants per zone if I have better pressure? Not opposed to the pressure regulator is that is what's called for.

Has anybody else used this 1/2" hose with the built in emitters? I can't see a reason why not to use them in a spiral around each pot. 15 ft was the number thrown out in our discussion.
 
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humboldtlocal

For the 12" spacing 1gph tubing we looked at dripworks says maximum row length of 250' so if you were doing 15' of tubing for each planter you should be able to do at least 16 planters per zone. Your pressure shouldn't blow the ez-loc fittings apart even if you only do ten planters per zone. That is why I started using this inline emitter tubing and got away from spaghetti line and stake emitters. I hate hose clamps, spaghetti line and stake emitters. They haunt my dreams.:)
 

nomaad

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you inspire confidence, brother. i'm goin with it. i'm sure there will be problems to solve but that's what we do.
 

Tom Hill

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Just take the car for a test drive is all I'm saying guys. It all looks good on paper. But, ask Planty if his 360d sprinklers actually throw a complete circle after all is set-up? Answer - hell no, not by a long shot.
 
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I am happy to help. I'll be throwing up some pics of how we do our system maybe as soon as next week. It is pretty simple. Like Tom said though we do have to break it up into several zones to keep up the pressure. That's where those handy timers I showed you come in.
 

nomaad

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And if that hose length spec u cite holds true in practice, I should be able to do the entire garden, black boxes included in 4 zones. Was it the 12" spacing I want on the emitter hose?
 
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humboldtlocal

Just take the car for a test drive is all I'm saying guys. It all looks good on paper. But, ask Planty if his 360d sprinklers actually throw a complete circle after all is set-up? Answer - hell no, not by a long shot.

I spent several years struggling with different types of stake emitters and spaghetti line, 1/8", 1/4", 360 sprayers, misters. I just love this inline emitter tubing.
You can kind of see some of it in these pics. Just a big spiral around my holes works great and soaks nice and evenly. For my trenches I just do several straight runs.
Some of these were not staked properly like a spiral but you get the idea.
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Tom Hill

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Yea I like the twist connectors. They're great. Is a pressure regulator really that big a deal? Are you running the sprayers @ 50 PSI tom? I heard they turn in to misters at pressures higher than 35...? I went with 4 green 360* ones per 6' and will run them @ about 20 psi (hopefully) ...should give me a 4' circle and about 14 gph out of each one..that regulator will hopefully be here monday or tuesday.

Some bull shit low 30s night temps are keeping me inside till the 21st...Which isn't too much of a bad thing...my ladies will have had a full 3 weeks after up potting

I wish I had consistant pressure throughout any garden but I don't. I have to go with lower pressure options at the top and mid pressure options down low in my low psi gravity flow systems. Most pressure regs may as well be refered to as flow regulators, been doing battle with this stuff for decades. The only thing that is sure with plumbing is that shit flows downhill and payday is on friday.

My plants are so happy, just charging. Everything is on target so far, muahhhahaa :)
 
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humboldtlocal

And if that hose length spec u cite holds true in practice, I should be able to do the entire garden, black boxes included in 4 zones. Was it the 12" spacing I want on the emitter hose?

They have a 6 and 9" spacing as well that would soak it even more but have a less maximum row length size. For my trenches I did 18" spacing and it did well. I am adding another line to those trenches to have four lines this year. On my spirals for big holes and this year smart pots I go with the 12" spacing.
 
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humboldtlocal

I wish I had consistant pressure throughout any garden but I don't. I have to go with lower pressure options at the top and mid pressure options down low in my low psi gravity flow systems. Most pressure regs may as well be refered to as flow regulators, been doing battle with this stuff for decades. The only thing that is sure with plumbing is that shit flows downhill and payday is on friday.

My plants are so happy, just charging. Everything is on target so far, muahhhahaa :)

I have a couple low flow gardens as well and this stuff works on down to 10psi. I only have one garden with really high pressure and I use a 50psi regulator.
 
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