The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[Shcrews]

Damn prop give that cookies more soil

 

[Luther Burbank]

Always put the lid on your Ag-Sil. Fuck, that's a little large. Sorry about that.

 

[Cep]

Plants are cookin. Intentionally not as big as last years, but will certainly have root dominance.


Happy 4th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmkj4mzUtrk

 

[hup234]

Plus the guys that wrote that line kept slaves and did not let women vote. When action does not match words you gotta wonder what the true purpose was.

only land owners could vote

 

[Luther Burbank]

We replaced a bunch of tyrants across the ocean with some slightly closer corrupt bastards. As far as I'm concerned even the founding fathers were giving lip service to ideas they barely believed in. Jefferson and others still have my respect as people, but they certainly weren't the demigods we turned them into in the 20th century. If we really believe in the values of the revolution then we must admit it's unfinished work.

 

[igrowkushbitch]

Happy 4th guys. Just tried my first foliar with sea crop. I am liking the results.

Bubba

LA Affie

 

[Backyard Farmer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SAzgFu8RU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EiWz8QSDXI

 

[igrowkushbitch]

Not yet I am gonna let these girls get a little shaggy. I had issues with height last year. I lollipopped so much the plants hit the roof of the greeny. I had to build a temp roof just so the buds weren't smashing up against the plastic. As for the 2x4 its days are numbered. I don't have fireworks for tonight I have Tannerite!!

 

[Backyard Farmer]

It just keeps growing...

 

[milkyjoe]

It is almost impossible to believe til you see it yourself. And then you have some "expert" look at it with a 60 x and tell I would have gone another week haha.

 

[Luther Burbank]

What is that Biff?

 

[TheRealHash]

I climbed higher

 

[CaliGabe]

Any one play with blending agents? Trying to get away from MixWell , it's expensive and dilute.

Thinking about trying Fusion from Agri Dynamics , any one used it? Here's what they says about it:

"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]FUSION™ - A prehistoric concentrated seabed extract rich in over 60 minerals, fulvic acid, humic acid and phytoalexins. Fusion™ is an exceptional source of PSM’s (Plant Secondary Metabolites also known as phytoalexins), which are plant protectant compounds produced by plants to shield themselves against diseases, insects, weather extremes and UV radiation. FUSION™ is an excellent primordial alternative or companion ingredient to kelp/seaweed solutions; as it only is necessary to utilize (1) pint per acre. FUSION™ is a blending catalyst. That is, one can mix incompatible ingredients such as calcium and phosphorous without precipitation reactions. FUSION™ is a potent biocatalyst. When utilized with fish emulsion, compost and worm teas, molasses and other plant foods, there is no equal to FUSION™ in its ability to ignite microbial chain reactions in the soil. FUSION™ is a pH adjustor both in the tank mix and on the foliage. FUSION™ is a chelating agent or plant food conjugator, thereby facilitating plant foliage to absorb more nutrients and plant protectants (organic or conventional pesticides).[/FONT]

Sounds like BS to me. I'd start by sending a sample to a lab for a full macro and micro mineral analysis. Last I remember that's like about $600 for all elements they can test for. I have a lab in UT that can do that for you if you want. In regard to the humic/fulvic testing...humic acid is one thing and fulvic another. Last I knew CDFA did not recognize any tests for fulvic acid content and why products can't make any claims for FA content in CA. Last time I talked to Western Analytical I was told if I could supply a valid test for FA they would be all ears. BioAg knows that dance. Dr. Faust is a cool peep. Last I knew Lawrence Mayhew was heading up an industry organization to develop an AOAC method for fulvic acid testing. He invited me to be part of that group a few years back yet I passed. You get into the whole XAD vs DAX resin column stuff. Hope Lawrence got this project done as I lost track.

Why don't you just call your friends at AEA and get the story about this product instead of asking peeps online? Would be interesting to hear what they have to say.

 

[Cep]

Am I correct in assuming that since Albion's Calcium is chelated I won't run into trouble combining it with pht phos for foliar? I'll look over the labeling tomorrow or call AEA but I figured those who have been using it longer might know.

It's so much easier for plants to get P from organic matter/humic substances in the soil than from the mineral component. Seems it would follow that similar materials could shield it from Calcium in a solution.

 

[furrywall11]

How much is everyone watering at this point? I was doing 15 gallons every 48 hours to my cherry pies in 300 gallon smart pots but I just upped that to 25-30 gallons after coming back 24 hours later and finding them collapsed under the heat. My bigger girls in mounds have been getting 40-50 gallons every 48 hours through a drip system..

 

[Bulldog420]

How much is everyone watering at this point? I was doing 15 gallons every 48 hours to my cherry pies in 300 gallon smart pots but I just upped that to 25-30 gallons after coming back 24 hours later and finding them collapsed under the heat. My bigger girls in mounds have been getting 40-50 gallons every 48 hours through a drip system..

I really like the answers that Propfor215 gave in another thread. I hope it's not a problem reposting it.

I've never needed a water probe or anything like that…the new drip system i made totally covers the entire mound in 10 minutes. in NorCal blend i like to keep it moist/wet 100% of the time, once the top goes dry it takes forever to rewet. the plants seem to love the constant watering and I've only seen signs of over watering on 1 or 2 finicky OGs….everything else stays tracking every hour of daylight.

i water every single day at this point...

yes definitely go every day….waiting 2-3 days is gonna dry out the tops til their bone dry. and then its gonna take extra water to re-wet and you could stand there watering for 30 minutes and still barely penetrate 6 inches…with dry spot hidden underneath the wet.

i hit drippers for 10 minutes on each row, puts approx 20 gallons on each mound and wets the top down. then i come back and put another 10 minutes and the second watering is able to penetrate deep down. I've been putting a steady 20-40 gal a day on each plant, never skipped a day yet and they point up and track every single day…

also the fact that my mounds are not on top of trenches i have excellent drainage, it all hits the clay and goes right out the sides. its drains out into the middle of each mound which have another half yard of soil, it basically collects all the runoff and stays wet 24/7 and the roots absolutely love it they are spreading out so far its crazy.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

watering every day, approx 20-40 gallons in my mounds. this heat is about to get serious time to bust out the sprinklers again and make it rain!

 

[milkyjoe]

Am I correct in assuming that since Albion's Calcium is chelated I won't run into trouble combining it with pht phos for foliar? I'll look over the labeling tomorrow or call AEA but I figured those who have been using it longer might know.

It's so much easier for plants to get P from organic matter/humic substances in the soil than from the mineral component. Seems it would follow that similar materials could shield it from Calcium in a solution.[/QUOTE

How set are you on pure organic? Hypercap is kinda amazing. I figure if you use micro 5000 you already gave up on organic so wtf. Pht p for the soil...hypercap and albion ca for foliar. No microbe damage at all but some serious benefit

 

[Yes4Prop215]

argh that moment when a dust cloud of blood meal and other amendments hit you right in the face…one of those "i hate farming" moments. gotta figure out a way to top dress all this dusty stuff without it sending plumes of dried slaughterhouse blood everywhere. YUCK…

but then i look at the garden and I'm like…its worth it!

Chem4SD x Tangerine Plushberry

Asteroid (LVPK x Nevilles Haze) this seed shot up to 10 feet tall, but all the other asteroids stayed a little shorter and bushy around 6-7 feet right now. guessing this will be a haze dominant pheno…

 

[Cep]

Milky,

I'm not entirely against inorganic methods, just prefer organic. I've been trying to build microbe populations on the leaf surface in an attempt at competitive exclusion against botrytis, but after the last two years I'm starting to think that its not worth the time. I'm definitely in the camp that maintaining good health is the best approach now. Hypercap seems like a really good 1/2 punch. Are you combining it with the other products you're using?