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gardens are looking good folks! weather took a bit of a dive in temps recently, down in the low 70s during the day and 60s at night and high wind, had to get out there and do a lot of supports early. growth seems to have slowed down a bit with the lower temps, so praying that we get back up into the 90s soon!
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CaliGabe
The other day was brutal regarding winds here in SoCO. The turkeys, geese and chickens spent most of the day under cover of bushes. Wind starting to rip again and strong cloud cover.
Just use a lot of compost and worm castings then let the microlife sort out any K issues
Using lots of compost is often the beginning of K issues ....sooooo build what you got in to what you need and only add what's required.
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CaliGabe
I LOVE this stuff! Low temp dehydrated organic alfalfa juice as produced by Liqua Dry in UT. 1 lb of dried juice like 30+ lbs of fresh alfalfa. The compost tumbler and worm bin needed a kick so dumped what I had left in the tumbler. Worms will get the mix next week. Liqua Dry offers 'secondary' material by the super sack for pretty darn cheap. The staff at Liqua Dry are good peeps! A lot of organic goodness packed into a very small space . Don't go with the barley grass juice as that will negatively affect your fungi. They also offer oat and wheat extracts.
Mmmmm...smells like fresh cut grass and about 50% sugar. No cellulose here and only cellular goodies. Look at the color of that green...should give you some idear...was vacuum packed in mylar foil bags. I have a little left yet for personal consumption. Lefty Loosie and Right Tighty...lol
. Don't go with the barley grass juice as that will negatively affect your fungi. They also offer oat and wheat extracts.Mmmmm...smells like fresh cut grass and about 50% sugar. No cellulose here and only cellular goodies. Look at the color of that green...should give you some idear...was vacuum packed in mylar foil bags. I have a little left yet for personal consumption. Lefty Loosie and Right Tighty...lol
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Growing healthy plants will increase the organic matter content of your soil way more than adding compost will any way.
We also added no compost.
Very minimal inputs this year!!
Focusing on activating Enzyme Co Factors inside the plant!!
Now if we could just go back to 90+ Degrees I'd appreciate it.
I didn't design my soil and garden program for cool summer temps!
We also added no compost.
Very minimal inputs this year!!
Focusing on activating Enzyme Co Factors inside the plant!!
Now if we could just go back to 90+ Degrees I'd appreciate it.
I didn't design my soil and garden program for cool summer temps!
furrywall11
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I wonder if my 4-5 x optimal P and 2-3 x optimal K are a result of amending last years vermifire with 10:1 vermiblend which is their compost line? damn, I'm glad I didn't go harder with it..
Probably.
Did you test the Vermi Blend on it's own or just the Vermi Fire?
I remember seeing the Vermi Fire soil tests and kind of shuddering a little bit.
Seems to work great for some people though.
Did you test the Vermi Blend on it's own or just the Vermi Fire?
I remember seeing the Vermi Fire soil tests and kind of shuddering a little bit.
Seems to work great for some people though.
What kind of water is delivered by the trucks up there? Is it potable water, or recycled water?
How is recycled water compared to potable tap water? I'm pretty sure this is the type of water for farm irrigation, so certainly it's suitable for plants in general but was wondering if there's anything in particular I should be aware of. I suppose a water test is in order, but wondering if quality/content changes from time to time.
How is recycled water compared to potable tap water? I'm pretty sure this is the type of water for farm irrigation, so certainly it's suitable for plants in general but was wondering if there's anything in particular I should be aware of. I suppose a water test is in order, but wondering if quality/content changes from time to time.
furrywall11
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I tested just the vermifire after I amended it with vermiblend..I took three samples from the top, middle and, bottom of the smart pot. This is the middle-- they're all pretty similar. Also, I broke down and just told the testing company I'm growing cannabis and that's what I want the recommendations for. 
A online search says it can take years for soil to return to normal after it's been over fertilized with phos, true?
A online search says it can take years for soil to return to normal after it's been over fertilized with phos, true?
No harder than getting salt out of oversalted soup.
Seriusly though...lots of run off if you are in pots. And instead of compost you could use north dakota leonardite to complex/chelate both anions and cations. The humic and fulvic acids do the trick. I added 50 lbs per yard to make up for no compost.
A more expensive way would be humacarb from aea. The advantage is it is a liquid and can be fertigated. Ask one of their agronomists about how much based on your soil test.
The north dakota stuff is hard to wet but you might could top dress it and get it watered in after a while.
Seriusly though...lots of run off if you are in pots. And instead of compost you could use north dakota leonardite to complex/chelate both anions and cations. The humic and fulvic acids do the trick. I added 50 lbs per yard to make up for no compost.
A more expensive way would be humacarb from aea. The advantage is it is a liquid and can be fertigated. Ask one of their agronomists about how much based on your soil test.
The north dakota stuff is hard to wet but you might could top dress it and get it watered in after a while.
Hillside Growin
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i was just gona quote the too much salt in a soup, such a good analogy. so much easier to work your way up to a good soil levels instead off too much.
The low B and high K scares me.
What I would do if I was consulting on your scene is send the test to AEA.
Get them to send me as much Rejuvenate , HumaCarb , Spectrum Extra , and Pepzyme C as it will take to correct the soil.
Pick up some Albion Ca+B and Ca and use these weekly or bi weekly to head off any problems with too much K.
I'm going to contact a lab today to see if they will do tissue nutrient analysis on cannabis in CA. If they do I'll post the info so we can start getting things really dialed. We are missing the most important step at the moment and as scientific I as we want to play it until we start tissue testing it's still mostly hippie meter. But my faith is strong ...
What I would do if I was consulting on your scene is send the test to AEA.
Get them to send me as much Rejuvenate , HumaCarb , Spectrum Extra , and Pepzyme C as it will take to correct the soil.
Pick up some Albion Ca+B and Ca and use these weekly or bi weekly to head off any problems with too much K.
I'm going to contact a lab today to see if they will do tissue nutrient analysis on cannabis in CA. If they do I'll post the info so we can start getting things really dialed. We are missing the most important step at the moment and as scientific I as we want to play it until we start tissue testing it's still mostly hippie meter. But my faith is strong ...
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Cep
I'm in the same boat with too much K in the soup. Remember that compost analysis I sent you Milky? It looked pretty good to me too so I put around 20 yards into 125 yards of native soil, but even at that low amendment rate my K went to around 10%. Some people talk about using over 30-40% compost in their mixes, this can get salty. Anyway, I'll be hitting them hard with foliar Calboro, Photomag, plain albion Ca in between.
Here is a tissue analysis from last year:
If your lab tells you they won't accept cannabis, just label the bag as hops… Keep in mind you're only sending in petioles haha. Check out A&L Labs in Modesto. I picked two common hop varieties, sent in 200 petioles from Green Crack "Cascade" and Banana Kush "Chinook" and got my results back in four days. Notice the high K in the analysis. I was reading reference percentages for other things like tomatoes and I think I was seeing 2%, so my numbers were most likely excessive levels. I say most likely because I don't think there are established healthy values for cannabis.
@Backyard
Would you be down to post those samples on here and maybe we can start establishing the reference values? Hops aren't as common in Cali as they are up here but I picked that because they stink and its the same family. What I'll be doing this year is measuring brix and pH for the samples that are sent in. I'm still growing "Cascade". You could label the dog "Nugget".
Here is a tissue analysis from last year:
If your lab tells you they won't accept cannabis, just label the bag as hops… Keep in mind you're only sending in petioles haha. Check out A&L Labs in Modesto. I picked two common hop varieties, sent in 200 petioles from Green Crack "Cascade" and Banana Kush "Chinook" and got my results back in four days. Notice the high K in the analysis. I was reading reference percentages for other things like tomatoes and I think I was seeing 2%, so my numbers were most likely excessive levels. I say most likely because I don't think there are established healthy values for cannabis.
@Backyard
Would you be down to post those samples on here and maybe we can start establishing the reference values? Hops aren't as common in Cali as they are up here but I picked that because they stink and its the same family. What I'll be doing this year is measuring brix and pH for the samples that are sent in. I'm still growing "Cascade". You could label the dog "Nugget".
Damn now i got more stuff i gotta spend money on lol….im interested in trying some of those out how would i go about doing so. im currently using the normal PPD/Cal25/humic/fulvic and it seems to be working fine, but i know i can be adding more essentials.
Really not liking the cold snap over the last few days, temps got into the 50s last night and it was chilly, also high winds, lost a few branches here and there some seemed more brittle than they should be. what kind of micro nutes should i feed the plants to help them fight off woody stem and help them fight against the cold/wind.
we are growing some hops too! just got some new varieties shipped in one of them is called tangerine, which pairs nicely with all the tangerine dream hybrids we are growing... tangie hash with tangie beer gonna be an orange winter!
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