The Grow Cube Hydroponic Unit

[Guest]

Morning ethereal, the holding tank will be something easy to just swamp out. The reason i'm going this route. Is so i can grow four different strains at one time and control the fert' and PH in each unit. I won't have any problems if each units has it's own rez tank. I know what a bulkhead fitting is. Been around boat almost all my life. It sounds like a good idea, but the onlyl worry i had with installing one. Well two worries, is the unit being top heavy when rez tank is empty and cleaning out the tank so not to get Fungi. This is where my "Holding Unit or Swap Tank" will come in. Not to worry and i'll make it as easy as possbile for everyone. I want to try to keep these untis as small as possible and easy as possbile. With the minum amount of time for rez tank changes. Thanks for the help and idea's. Glad to hear any idea's anyone has. That's why we are here at IC. To share help and enjoy cannabis. Today i'm going to try and get the rest of the parts. Will see if i got enough time.
Take care,
BG

 

[ethereal]

cant wait brother!

i dont personally think u should worry much about things gettin nasty in there since its only bein used for flower. you can and should clean it out after every run with bleach dilution. and run the system with regular water for a while to flush it clear before doin it up for the next run.

there are many additives you can buy which contain benefcial bacteria and other types of beneficial microorganisms that can wipe out the worst of infections with one dosing. do some research on beneficial bacteria and mycorrhizae. AN makes a good pair of products called Piranha(sp?) and tarantula which are beneficial bacteria and mycorrhizal fungi which will ensure happy roots and prevent an anaerobic environment.

3 months isnt much time for things to grow out of a sterile container. use air-stones if worried

hey just my two cents, you should do what you think is best for you.

keep us posted

 

[ethereal]

well 3 months if running 90 day sativas
if you are growing indica in there its only 60 dys between bleach cleanings.
if not usin mud in the reservoir, i wouldnt be too concerned with stuff.

note: *enzymes are another good thing to have in your arsenal.*

 

[Guest]

Buy the unit... save yourself the headache. You'll be up and running inside an hour. I've had lots of coliseums... Even seen one of these cubes in action. They are very easy to run, just buy cool tubes for your 1kw'ers. Do not use 600's they will not have the penetration you need at that distance. 3-4 1kw'ers, and you'll be hitting 8#'s.

 

[mysticls]

3-4k watts for 8#? so far i've heard 3.9g per watt in this thread and now i've heard

3584g / 4k watts = .89g now i've heard .89g per watt


i'd like to see one of these in action..

come on with it golddust

 

[Guest]

I've only had problems once with fungi. I've got it down now and i really don't have a problem. I just like keeping all my rez tanks nice and clean and usally change every week or two week at the max. I'll be adding some goodies to make sure there isn't any problems.

As for Chodo's comments. Well, i've own 2 120 mini units and i'm not going to drop another 3,000 for new ones. Plus, i enjoy building all types of stuff. As for lighting and bumping up the units to 1000's. I'll wait and see how the first run goes. I'll be testing one of them with 600's and i'll do another with 1000's. Thanks for your point of view. Glad to have other verticle growers here. There's a few of us, but not many.

Mysticls, yield will be good. Don't worry and just wait around and watch. I'm guessing the yield off of these units with either lighting is going to be pretty good. We won't know till i do a couple of runs. Once i get a coupld of runs under my belt. Will, know what these units can and can't do.. Personally, and i'm guessing here. I'm thinking along the lines of 2 oz's per a site. It's all going to depend on strain, veg time, and all the other goodies.

Thanks everyone for you input and support.
Take care,
BG

 

[ethereal]

yep 1-3oz per! strain dependant

and use DIGITAL 600 watt ballasts!

take care

 

[Guest]

For 1200.00 you can get a cage and get 2# off 1200w. That's not a lot but its easy!

 

[ethereal]

would that be experience talking?
'cuz those numbers are very low

 

[ommid]

so this system can really yeild 1-3 oz per site..damn....where do u put the lights on this thing? How can the light penetrate the bottom when all the plants become 3 feet tall? is this thing like an omega garden where the lights are in the middle of the grow cube? i mean this system sounds like the best thing ever...u can yield 10+lbs with only 3 or 4 thousand watts..dammn.please someone fill me on this thing...is this really worth the money

 

[Guest]

so this system can really yeild 1-3 oz per site..damn....where do u put the lights on this thing? How can the light penetrate the bottom when all the plants become 3 feet tall? is this thing like an omega garden where the lights are in the middle of the grow cube? i mean this system sounds like the best thing ever...u can yield 10+lbs with only 3 or 4 thousand watts..dammn.please someone fill me on this thing...is this really worth the money

I'll be starting a contruction thread soon. I'll post the link here for those that want to follow the construction and add their input. The system is going to be a Hybird of the Grow Cube. The center will be lights only. There will not be anything in the center on the floor. I'll work some some thing in the center later on. As for the lights. They go in the center and are verticle like a coli unit. I'll explain more later on in the other thread i'm going to start, but yes. This unit should wieght very nicely.
Take care,
BG

 

[ommid]

thanx for the fast reply bro....I'm lookin to yield in that 10+Lbs category myself...i thought i was gonna have to do a 5-6k system and use up alot of space...but this grow cube thing looks amazing....does the growcube allow you to put 3 or 4 1000 watt lights?

 

[Guest]

thanx for the fast reply bro....I'm lookin to yield in that 10+Lbs category myself...i thought i was gonna have to do a 5-6k system and use up alot of space...but this grow cube thing looks amazing....does the growcube allow you to put 3 or 4 1000 watt lights?

Well, the setup i'm think about. Is going to be either 2 600HPS in a cooltube or 2 1000HPS in a cool tube. I'll see how those do and if i need more light. I will add one more, but i think 2 1000HPS should be more then enough. Wait till you see how they are cubed together and you will under stand more. I'll get the thread start tomorrow. I was going to start it tonight, but i ran into some problems. I bought some PVC fittings and i got some 3" ID & OD and those won't work together. See you tomorrow with a new thread.
Take care,
BG

 

[ethereal]

awesome BG

 

[ethereal]

so this system can really yeild 1-3 oz per site..damn....where do u put the lights on this thing? How can the light penetrate the bottom when all the plants become 3 feet tall? is this thing like an omega garden where the lights are in the middle of the grow cube?

vertical cool tubes. the more lamps you use, the better, because you have more 'hotspots'... so for example, (3) 600w would make happier plants than (2) 1000w, even though you are using less watts.

i mean this system sounds like the best thing ever...u can yield 10+lbs with only 3 or 4 thousand watts..dammn.please someone fill me on this thing...is this really worth the money

its worth every penny if you are not handy enough to construct somethin on your own. "3 or 4 thousand watts damn" WAY TOO MUCH! try 2-3kw in a cube at most. my buddy ran his with just TWO fucking 600watt digital HPS...yes, just 1200watts....and broke 3.9grams per watt...

if you can do a drip system, or aero if you prefer, you can do this type of setup. as i said before, you just need balls.

 

[ommid]

vertical cool tubes. the more lamps you use, the better, because you have more 'hotspots'... so for example, (3) 600w would make happier plants than (2) 1000w, even though you are using less watts.its worth every penny if you are not handy enough to construct somethin on your own. "3 or 4 thousand watts damn" WAY TOO MUCH! try 2-3kw in a cube at most. my buddy ran his with just TWO fucking 600watt digital HPS...yes, just 1200watts....and broke 3.9grams per watt...

if you can do a drip system, or aero if you prefer, you can do this type of setup. as i said before, you just need balls.

I'm not handy at all bro but I am going to get that machine..I'm borrowing alot of money to pull this grow off and just wanna make sure the money invested is well spent...do u still have to apply CO2 and do all the proper venting for this system? Does it come with the cool tube set up with the option to make 2-3k watts? just a bit confused..I love this board by the way..your guys knowledge is awsome

 

[ethereal]

proper venting: YES
CO2: Optional. As with any grow style.

does not come with lighting setup, no.
60" cooltubes are available and they have 2 socket asemblies built-in.
if you want to do more than 3 lamps your best bet is using individual 20" or so cool tubes linked together with ducting.

check your pm's for a link for quality digital ballasts at a deep discount.
ebay or any of the links i listed in the beginning of this thread have 60" cooltubes.
then go to www.growvertical.com - decide whether u want the cage, or the cube.
the cage is under 2 grand. the cube is almost 5 grand. compare specifications and see whats best for you.
in the cage, you can use a 60" cooltube with (2)600w digital HPS,
OR (2)400w HPS and (1)400w Halide, but again, you need seperate cool tubes for each lamp.

if you decide to go with the CUBE, you can use (2) or (3) 1kw HPS, but use individual cooltubes for each lamp and link them.

you dont even need to use cooltubes if you have air conditioning blowing up in there, but it is advisable to use one.

good luck.

 

[ommid]

awsome info bro...you made my day thanks....what would u do if u had the Cube...would i be able to fit 4 1000k watt lamps linked togethor in the cool tube and still have it fit the right way? which amount of lights do u prefer? would that 4k of lights get me closer to that 3.0 grams per watt?

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the kind words ommid. Your looking at it the wrong way, just alittle. You will not need to run that much light to get close to your goal. Alot of grower's that are new. Think two things to get a HUGH yield. Throw, lots of Fertz and Lights and they are going to be rolling in mounts of buds. There is alot to react a goal. I think newer grower's should really watch PH levels and PPM. I truely think this is where they go wrong first and of course watering amounts. Slow your roll, I know this is going to be fun. Not to worry, i'll answer all your questions and help in any way i can.

I personally love the 600HPS light. I like it for a couple of reasons. One, it have a nice output of lums and the heat output is nice also. Not hot as hell like the 1000 and you can get them closer to the tops. 1000 watts are more for tight together grows that need light levels to get through the thich bushy tops. As for the light going to be used in the unit. I'm going to try 2 600HPS Grolux at first. I'll see how well the buds form and then go from there. I'll also test 2 1000HPS Grolux also and look at the diferences and see if it's worth using them over the 600's. So, with one of these cube units. You will be only looking at about 1200-1800 watts with the 600HPS or 2000 watts with 2 1000HPS. Will see later on down the road which light setup will get close to the 3.0 mark. OH, BIG question you need to ask also. To hit this nice mark. You are going to need a strain that yields well also. Any old strain you put in this system isn't going to nail that mark. Don't get me wrong, they will do well. If you want to nail that mark. You got to figure out the right strain for yourself. Before you ask and wonder what strains i'm going to use first. First ones will be NYCD my clone MONSTER yielder and some members here alreadu seen it in action. Green Giant, another monster, but i've got to germ out seeds since i don't have a mother plant around. Still have a few packs of seeds, so i'm good to go. NL#5 from BCSC, boy this is a yeilder also. This one shoud do really well also. The fourth strain for the final cube. I really don't know. Going to have to look at the list of seeds i already have and then think about it. Well, stay tuned, because i just started the build. Once i get a ways and take a break. I'll resize some pictures and upload them. Once i'm done with that. I'll start the thread and link it here so you can have a look. Thanks for the kind words and everyone have a super weekend.
Take care,
BG

 

[Guest]

awesome thread GDW..you guys always inspire me....thanks again