The Green New Deal

[Cannavore]

Have you ever left the U.S. ? Clearly that's not the case.

why do i have to leave the country to be able to read data and statistics?

 

[Cannavore]

And yet EVERY FUCKING THING THAT MATTERS requires a gov ID.

Bank account...driving...flying on a fucking airplane...Dr. office..credit cards..GOTO SCHOOL...donate blood...

literally EVERY FUCKING THING THAT MATTERS requires identification.

But...you know...we have 20 to 50 million ILLEGAL Aliens here...and...well, you know we...we'll just register them to vote as we give them drivers licenses...fuck that.

State or FED issued ID to vote or GTFO. If you don't have a fucking ID..then you shouldn't be voting in the first place {i.e. because you are a waste of a person}. And in this case only, I side with my liberal friends and promote post-birth abortion.

you dont have a right to fly in an airplane, drive, use credit cards or banking... you're naming privileges. you do however have a right to vote.

best estimates for illegals is like 13 million and there's next to zero proof of voter fraud from illegals.

 

[Badfishy1]

you dont have a right to fly in an airplane, drive, use credit cards or banking... you're naming privileges. you do however have a right to vote.

best estimates for illegals is like 13 million and there's next to zero proof of voter fraud from illegals.

Nope illegals carry ZERO rights of American citizens. Never hear about buying cigarettes alcohol, gambling renting a car, signing a lease or opening a bank account being racist... ALL require govt ID. Also, your voter suppression narrative is bullshit as pointed out by the pinnacle of liberal higher education HARVARD as pointed out in a prior post. However I doubt you took the time to read that as the only ‘research’ you do is for confirmation of your ‘beliefs’

 

[Mr D]

you dont have a right to fly in an airplane, drive, use credit cards or banking... you're naming privileges. you do however have a right to vote.

best estimates for illegals is like 13 million and there's next to zero proof of voter fraud from illegals.

This is an old study that totally debunks your statement.

A study of voter fraud by Harvard’s Cooperative Congressional Election Study confirmed the findings of Judicial Watch on the role illegal immigrants have played in recent elections. The study found that enough non-citizens voted in 2008 to potentially “turn the tide” in favor of the Democrats.

Though the Harvard study was originally designed to dispel claims of widespread voter fraud, the results proved otherwise. Not only did a “significant number” of voters vote illegally, CCES found that they overwhelmingly voted Democrat, with Obama winning “more than 80 percent of the non-citizen vote.”

The study's findings fall in line with a recent audit by the State Board of Elections for North Carolina which found that out of the 10,000 voter citizenship cases they looked into, over 14% were "likely non-citizens."

 

[Gry]

Nope illegals carry ZERO rights of American citizens. Never hear about buying cigarettes alcohol, gambling renting a car, signing a lease or opening a bank account being racist... ALL require govt ID. Also, your voter suppression narrative is bullshit as pointed out by the pinnacle of liberal higher education HARVARD as pointed out in a prior post. However I doubt you took the time to read that as the only ‘research’ you do is for confirmation of your ‘beliefs’

Every living person has rights here. If you are attempting to dispute that voter suppression is other than a standard procedure used here with a single report from Harvard, I would very like to see this report. Any chance for a link as opposed to a reference. Got said report, thanks mr D. It would seem the report supports a contention of improper voting, which is a very different and separate subject than that of voter suppression. Which I contend is done on a massive basis as part of an ongoing effort that goes as far back as the late forties in an effort to negate the Jewish vote resulting from the second world war. That particular effort was led by Richard Nixon.
The current ring master would appear to be Kris Kobach of Kansas.
Interstate Cross check is his approach of choice. Never fairs too well when put before a court.
It was most recently abandoned by Colorado, which followed Illinois, which was in the footsteps of Kentucky and Massachusetts.
I would be most interested in learning more of the perspective which allows one to view Harvard as a liberal institution.

 

[Mr D]

Why focus on one form of voter suppression, the overt. What about the covert voter suppression?

Did you ever look at Bev Harris's work with blackboxvoting.org? Youtube Fractional Magic.

At the end of the day when you peel back all the layers of bullshit these selected politicians are their to give you the illusion of choice. Only a fool believes Americans have choices. Be willing to bet you a pack of seeds that when the democrat circus has ended Kamala will be the selected candidate.

 

[igrowone]

Why focus on one form of voter suppression, the overt. What about the covert voter suppression?

Did you ever look at Bev Harris's work with blackboxvoting.org? Youtube Fractional Magic.

At the end of the day when you peel back all the layers of bullshit these selected politicians are their to give you the illusion of choice. Only a fool believes Americans have choices. Be willing to bet you a pack of seeds that when the democrat circus has ended Kamala will be the selected candidate.

so who's in this cabal of politician king(or queen) choosers?
names are useful since you're putting in on the record you know who they will choose
how did you break into their hidden lair? lots of interesting stories here

 

[Gry]

Why focus on one form of voter suppression, the overt. What about the covert voter suppression?

Did you ever look at Bev Harris's work with blackboxvoting.org? Youtube Fractional Magic.

At the end of the day when you peel back all the layers of bullshit these selected politicians are their to give you the illusion of choice. Only a fool believes Americans have choices. Be willing to bet you a pack of seeds that when the democrat circus has ended Kamala will be the selected candidate.

A proven corporate tool who when the chips are down, will always go in favor of the corporate over the people. She would appear to be a favored contender.

 

[Gry]

so who's in this cabal of politician king(or queen) choosers?
names are useful since you're putting in on the record you know who they will choose
how did you break into their hidden lair? lots of interesting stories here

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match..."

-- from JFK's "The President and the Press" speech


In his book, Prouty, briefing officer of the US President from 1955-63, narrates a remarkable incident in which Winston Churchill made a most revealing utterance during World War II. He writes: On this particular night there had been a heavy raid on Rotterdam. He sat there, meditating, and then, as if to himself, he said: 'Unrestricted submarine warfare, unrestricted air bombing - this is total war. He continued sitting there, gazing at a large map, and then said: Time and the Ocean and some guiding star and 'High Cabal have made us what we are. Prouty adds: This was a most memorable scene and a revelation of reality that is infrequent, at best. If for the great Winston Churchill, there is a 'High Cabal that has made us what we are, our definition is complete. Who could now better than Churchill himself during the darkest days of World War II, that there exists, beyond doubt, an international 'High Cabal?

 

[Zeez]

I like Kamala Harris.

Why focus on one form of voter suppression, the overt. What about the covert voter suppression?

Did you ever look at Bev Harris's work with blackboxvoting.org? Youtube Fractional Magic.

At the end of the day when you peel back all the layers of bullshit these selected politicians are their to give you the illusion of choice. Only a fool believes Americans have choices. Be willing to bet you a pack of seeds that when the democrat circus has ended Kamala will be the selected candidate.

 

[Gry]

same

same

Same topic in greater depth. I would urge anyone with an interest in 'this type' material to spend the time with Prouty. https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/

This article was originally published in June 2011
The control of the US, and of global politics, by the wealthiest families of the planet is exercised in a powerful, profound and clandestine manner. This control began in Europe and has a continuity that can be traced back to the time when the bankers discovered it was more profitable to give loans to governments than to needy individuals.
These banking families and their subservient beneficiaries have come to own most major businesses over the two centuries during which they have secretly and increasingly organised themselves as controllers of governments worldwide and as arbiters of war and peace.
Unless we understand this we will be unable to understand the real reasons for the two world wars and the impending Third World War, a war that is almost certain to begin as a consequence of the US attempt to seize and control Central Asia. The only way out is for the US to back off – something the people of the US and the world want, but the elite does not.
The US is a country controlled through the privately owned Federal Reserve, which in turn is controlled by the handful of banking families that established it by deception in the first place.
In his interesting book The Secret Team, Col. Fletcher Prouty, briefing officer of the US President from 1955-63, narrates a remarkable incident in which Winston Churchill made a most revealing utterance during World War II:

“On this particular night there had been a heavy raid on Rotterdam. He sat there, meditating, and then, as if to himself, he said, ‘Unrestricted submarine warfare, unrestricted air bombing – this is total war.’ He continued sitting there, gazing at a large map, and then said, ‘Time and the Ocean and some guiding star and High Cabal have made us what we are’.”
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Prouty further states:

“This was a most memorable scene and a revelation of reality that is infrequent, at best. If for the great Winston Churchill, there is a ‘High Cabal’ that has made us what we are, our definition is complete. Who could know better than Churchill himself during the darkest days of World War II, that there exists, beyond doubt, an international High Cabal? This was true then. It is true today, especially in these times of the One World Order. This all-powerful group has remained superior because it had learned the value of anonymity.” This “High Cabal” is the “One World Cabal” of today, also called the elite by various writers.
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The High Cabal and What They Control
The elite owns the media, banks, defence and oil industry. In his book Who’s Who of the Elite Robert Gaylon Ross Sr. states: “It is my opinion that they own the US military, NATO, the Secret Service, the CIA, the Supreme Court, and many of the lower courts. They appear to control, either directly or indirectly, most of the state, county, and local law enforcement agencies.”
The elite is intent on conquering the world through the use of the abilities of the people of the United States. It was as far back as 1774 that Amschel Mayer Rothschild stated at a gathering of the twelve richest men of Prussia in Frankfurt: “Wars should be directed so that the nations on both sides should be further in our debt.” He further enunciated at the same meeting: “Panics and financial depressions would ultimately result in World Government, a new order of one world government.”
The elite owns numerous “think tanks” that work for expanding, consolidating and perpetuating its hold on the globe. The Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA), the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, and many other similar organisations are all funded by the elite and work for it. These think tanks publish journals, such as Foreign Affairs, in which these imperialist and anti-mankind ideas are edified as publications, and then, if need be, expanded in the form of books that are given wide publicity.
Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger et al, as well as the neo-con “thinkers,” owe their positions and good living standards to the largesse of the elite. This is an important point that must be kept in full view at all times. These thinkers and writers are on the payroll of the elite and work for them. In case someone has any doubts about such a statement, it might help to read the following quotes from Professor Peter Dale Scott’s comprehensively researched book The Road to 9/11 – Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America (University of California Press, 2007):

…Bundy’s Harvard protégé Kissinger was named to be national security adviser after having chaired an important “study group” at the Council on Foreign Relations. As a former assistant to Nelson Rockefeller, Kissinger had been paid by Rockefeller to write a book on limited warfare for the CFR. He had also campaigned hard in Rockefeller’s losing campaign for the Presidential nomination in 1968. Thus Rockefeller and the CFR might have been excluded from control of the Republican Party, but not from the Republican White House. (Page 22)
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The following quote from page 38 of the book is also very revealing:

The Kissinger-Rockefeller relationship was complex and certainly intense. As investigative reporter Jim Hougan wrote: “Kissinger, married to a former Rockefeller aide, owner of a Georgetown mansion whose purchase was enabled only by Rockefeller gifts and loans, was always a protégé of his patron Nelson Rockefeller, even when he wasn’t directly employed by him.”
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Professor Scott adds:

Nixon’s and Kissinger’s arrival in the White House in 1969 coincided with David Rockefeller’s becoming CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank. The Nixon-Kissinger foreign policy of detente was highly congruous with Rockefeller’s push to internationalise Chase Manhattan banking operations. Thus in 1973 Chase Manhattan became the first American bank to open an office in Moscow. A few months later, thanks to an invitation arranged by Kissinger, Rockefeller became the first US banker to talk with Chinese Communist leaders in Beijing.
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How They Manipulate Public Opinion
In addition to these strategic “think tanks” the elite has set up a chain of research institutes devoted to manipulating public opinion in a manner the elite desires. As pointed out by John Coleman in his eye opening book The Tavistock Institute on Human Relations – Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political and Economic Decline of the United States of America, it was in 1913 that an institute was established at Wellington House, London for manipulation of public opinion. According to Coleman:

The modern science of mass manipulation was born at Wellington House London, the lusty infant being midwifed by Lord Northcliffe and Lord Rothmere. The British monarchy, Lord Rothschild, and the Rockefellers were responsible for funding the venture… the purpose of those at Wellington House was to effect a change in the opinions of British people who were adamantly opposed to war with Germany, a formidable task that was accomplished by “opinion making” through polling. The staff consisted of Arnold Toynbee, a future director of studies at the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA), Lord Northcliffe, and the Americans, Walter Lippmann and Edward Bernays. Lord Northcliffe was related to the Rothschilds through marriage.
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Bernays was a nephew of Sigmund Freud, a fact never mentioned, and developed the technique of “engineering consent.” When Sigmund Freud moved to Britain he also, secretly, became associated with this institute through the Tavistock Institute. According to Coleman, Bernays “pioneered the use of psychology and other social sciences to shape and form public opinion so that the public thought such manufactured opinions were their own.”
The Tavistock Institute has a 6 billion dollar fund and 400 subsidiary organisations are under its control along with 3,000 think tanks, mostly in the USA. The Stanford Research Institute, the Hoover Institute, the Aspen Institute of Colorado, and many others, devoted to manipulation of US as well as global public opinion, are Tavistock offshoots. This helps explain why the US public, by and large, is so mesmerised as to be unable to see things clearly and to react.
Bilderberg researcher Daniel Estulin quotes from Mary Scobey’s book To Nurture Humanness a statement attributed to Professor Raymond Houghton, that the CFR has been clear for a very long time that “absolute behaviour control is imminent… without mankind’s self realisation that a crisis is at hand.”
Also keep in mind that currently 80% of US electronic and print media is owned by only six large corporations. This development has taken place in the past two decades. These corporations are elite owned. It is almost impossible for anyone who is acquainted with what is going on at the global level to watch, even for a few minutes, the distortions, lies and fabrications, incessantly pouring out of this media, a propaganda and brainwashing organ of the elite.
Once your picture is clear it is also easy to notice the criminal silence of the media on crimes being perpetrated against humanity at the behest of the elite. How many people know that the cancer rates in Fallujah, Iraq are higher than those in Hiroshima and Nagasaki because of the use of depleted uranium, and maybe other secret nuclear devices, by US forces? Fallujah was punished for its heroic resistance against the American forces.
The Importance of Eurasia
Why is the US in Central Asia? In order to understand this, one has to look at the writings of the stooges of the elite – Brzezinski, Kissinger, Samuel P Huntington, and their likes. It is important to note that members of these elite paid think tanks publish books as part of a strategy to give respectability to subsequent illegal, immoral and predatory actions that are to be taken at the behest of the elite. The views are not necessarily their own – they are the views of the think tanks. These stooges formulate and pronounce policies and plans at the behest of their masters, through bodies like the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group, etc.
In his infinitely arrogant book The Grand Chessboard, published in 1997, Brzezinski spelled out the philosophy behind the current US military eruption. He starts by quoting the well-known views of the British geographer Sir Halford J Mackinder (1861–1947), another worker for the elite. Mackinder was a member of the ‘Coefficients Dining Club’ established by members of the Fabian Society in 1902. The continuity of the policies of the elite is indicated by the fact Brzezinski starts from Mackinder’s thesis first propounded in 1904:

“Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland: Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island: who commands the World-Island commands the world.”
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Brzezinski argues that for the first time in human history a non-Eurasian power has become preeminent and it must hold sway over the Eurasian continent if it is to remain the preeminent global power: “For America the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia… About 75 percent of the world’s people live in Eurasia… Eurasia accounts for about 60 percent of the world’s GNP and about three fourths of the world’s known energy resources.”
It is not just the geostrategic location of this region – it is also its wealth, “both in its enterprises and beneath its soil,” that holds such attraction for the elite whose greed for money, and lust for power, remain insatiable, as if there was a sickness afflicting it.
Brzezinski writes:

“But it is on the globe’s most important playing field – Eurasia – that a potential rival to America might at some point arise. This focusing on the key players and properly assessing the terrain has to be a point of departure for the formulation of American geostrategy for the long-term management of America’s Eurasian geopolitical interests.”
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These lines were published in 1997. Millions of people have died in the past two decades and millions have been rendered homeless in this region but it remains a “playing” field for Brzezinski and his likes! In his book Brzezinski has drawn two very interesting maps – one of these has the caption The Global Zone of Percolating Violence (page 53) and the other (page 124) is captioned The Eurasian Balkans. The first of these encircles a region which includes the following countries: Sudan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, all Central Asian states, Afghanistan, Pakistan and parts of Russia as well as India. The second one has two circles, an inner circle and a wider circle – the outer circle encloses the same countries as in the first map but the inner circle covers Iran, Afghanistan, eastern Turkey and the former Soviet Republics in Central Asia.
“This huge region, torn by volatile hatreds and surrounded by competing powerful neighbours, is likely to be a major battlefield…” writes Brzezinski.
He further writes:

“A possible challenge to American primacy from Islamic fundamentalism could be part of the problem of this unstable region.”
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These lines were written at a time when this kind of fundamentalism was not a problem – subsequently the US manipulated things and chose to make it one by its provocative and deceptive tactics. According to its strategic thinkers, the US might face a serious challenge from a coalition of China, Russia and Iran and must do whatever it can to prevent such a coalition from forming.
For Brzezinski, “terrorism” – a Tavistock-type concept – is just a well planned and well thought out strategy, a lie and a deception, to provide cover for a military presence in the Central Eurasian region and elsewhere. It is being used to keep the US public in a state of fear, to keep Russia in a state of insecurity about further breakup (the US has trained and supported Chechen fighters, “terrorists,” throughout) and to justify presence of US troops in and around Central Asia.
The Concocted War on Terrorism
Terrorism provides justification for transforming the United States into a police state. According to the Washington Post of 20 & 21 December 2010, the US now has 4,058 anti-terrorism organisations! These are certainly not meant for those so-called terrorists who operate in Central Asia – the number far exceeds the number of so-called terrorists in the entire world. Unbridled domestic spying by US agencies is now a fact of life and the US public, as always, has accepted this because of the collusion of media and Tavistock type institutes owned by the elite.
The US historian Howard Zinn puts it very well: “The so-called war on terrorism is not only a war against innocent people in other countries, but also a war on the people of the United States: a war on our liberties, a war on our standard of living. The wealth of the country is being stolen from the people and handed over to the superrich. The lives of our young are being stolen. And the thieves are in the White House.” Actually the thieves control the White House and have been doing so for a very long time.
In his outstanding book Crossing the Rubicon, Michael Ruppert points out that much of the violence in the Central Asian region as well as in Pakistan, which has been encircled in two maps in Brzezinski’s book, was “initiated by the US proxies.” “Given that these maps were published a full four years before the first plane hit the World Trade Centre, they would fall in a category of evidence I learned about at LAPD [Los Angeles Police Department]. We called them ‘clues’.” This means that the eruption of US militarism after 9/11, and the event itself, were part of a pre-planned and coherent strategy of global domination in which the people of the US were also “conquered” through totalitarian legislation carried out in the wake of 9/11.
As Brzezinski puts it:

America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America’s power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a popular democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public’s sense of domestic well-being… The economic self-denial (that is, defence spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilisation.
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Certainly post 9/11 legislation, the extraordinary expansion of agencies and surveillance of the US public is a cause of great satisfaction for the elite – the US can hardly be called a democracy now. As reported by the Washington Post, the National Security Agency intercepts over 1.7 billion emails, phone calls and other communications every day and stores them. No wonder Bush called 9/11 “a great opportunity” and Rumsfeld saw it analogous to World War II to “refashion the world.”
In order to achieve the objectives of the elite, the US destroyed Yugoslavia while Russia stood by mesmerised and impotent, carried out regime changes in Central Asia, set up military bases in East Europe and Central Asia, and staged highly provocative military exercises testing Russia’s and China’s will. It set up a military base in Kyrgyzstan that has a 500 mile or so border with China. When the Chinese protested recent naval exercises with South Korea were too close to Chinese territory, a US spokesman responded: “Those determinations are made by us, and us alone… Where we exercise, when we exercise, with whom and how, with what assets and so forth are determinations that are made by the United States Navy, by the Department of Defence, by the United States government.” As journalist Rick Rozoff notes: “There is no way such confrontational, arrogant and vulgar language was not understood at its proper value in Beijing.”
The US has acquired bases in Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, and the Czech Republic – and set up the largest military base ever built in the region, Camp Bondsteel, in Kosovo. According to a report in the Russian Kommersant newspaper on 3 March 2011, a four-phase plan for deployment of a US missile system in Europe is to be fully implemented by the end of 2020. The US is also busy setting up bilateral military ties in Russia’s backyard with Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and is pursuing the goal of a “Greater Central Asia” from Afghanistan right up to the Middle East, a great corridor from where the oil, gas, and great mineral wealth of this region will flow to the coffers of the US elite, at bloody expense to the local people.
As remarked by the Indian career diplomat M.K. Bhadrakumar: “The time is not far off before they begin to sense that ‘the war on terror’ is providing a convenient rubric under which the US is incrementally securing for itself a permanent abode in the highlands of Hindu Kush, the Pamirs, Central Asian steppes and the Caucasus that form the strategic hub overlooking Russia, China, India and Iran.” The scene for a great war involving the great powers of the time – US, Russia and China – is now set, by design of the elite. It is just a matter of time.
Time and again the US elite has taken its good people into great wars through documented and proven deceptions – the sinking of the Lusitania during World War I, Pearl Harbour in World War II, and so on. The elite considers us “human garbage” – a term first used by the French in Indo-China. It is also generating a good deal of “human garbage” in the US. A World Bank report points out that in 2005, 28 million Americans were “insecure” – in 2007 the number had risen to 46 million! One in every five Americans is faced with the possibility of becoming “destitute” – 38 million people receive food coupons!
Michael Ruppert laments:

My country is dead. Its people have surrendered to tyranny and in so doing, they have become tyranny’s primary support group; its base; its defender. Every day they offer their endorsement of tyranny by banking in its banks and spending their borrowed money with the corporations that run it. The great Neocon strategy of George H.W. Bush has triumphed. Convince the America people that they can’t live without the ‘good things’, then sit back and watch as they endorse the progressively more outrageous crimes you commit as you throw them bones with ever less meat on them. All the while lock them into debt. Destroy the middle class, the only political base that need be feared. Make them accept, because of their shared guilt, ever-more repressive police state measures. Do whatever you want.
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A global economic system erected on inhuman and predatory values, where a few possess more wealth than the billions of hungry put together, will end, but the end will be painful and bloody. It is a system in which the elite thrives on war and widespread human misery, on death and destruction by design. As Einstein said, “I do not know how the Third World War will be fought, but I can tell you what they will use in the Fourth – sticks and stones!”
Prof. Mujahid Kamranis Vice Chancellor, University of the Punjab, Lahore, Pakistan, and his book The Grand Deception – Corporate America and Perpetual War has just been published (April 2011) by Sang e Meel Publications, Lahore, Pakistan.

 

[xavier7995]

Thats just SO MANY WORDS gry, can we get a meme or youtube video of it...

*mumbles something incoherent about jews and shakes fist at pigeons.

In all seriousness, good piece and thanks for posting.

 

[Gry]

Why focus on one form of voter suppression, the overt. What about the covert voter suppression?

Did you ever look at Bev Harris's work with blackboxvoting.org? Youtube Fractional Magic.

At the end of the day when you peel back all the layers of bullshit these selected politicians are their to give you the illusion of choice. Only a fool believes Americans have choices. Be willing to bet you a pack of seeds that when the democrat circus has ended Kamala will be the selected candidate.

Recall having heard her as a guest on another individual's program on
the ever fascinating topic of manipulating the vote.
Will enjoy the youtube piece, thank you for it.

 

[Cannavore]

Nope illegals carry ZERO rights of American citizens.

i know. hence the term illegal or undocumented.

Never hear about buying cigarettes alcohol, gambling renting a car, signing a lease or opening a bank account being racist... ALL require govt ID.

again, none of those are rights. those are privileges. voter id and id in general go against the constitution as you are born a citizen with unalienable rights. the government does not have the right to essentially charge you the cost of an id for citizenship.

Also, your voter suppression narrative is bullshit as pointed out by the pinnacle of liberal higher education HARVARD as pointed out in a prior post.

More debunked fake news cited as proof lmao I love it.

First off it wasn't a Harvard study, secondly it's been debunked repeatedly, thirdly the author of the paper you are citing has come out himself and said Trump and the right are twisting the reality of it.

"The problem, says Richman, who identifies as a political moderate, is that the Trump administration's interpretation of his report is totally off. "Trump and others have been misreading our research and exaggerating our results to make claims we don't think our research supports," Richman says. "I'm not sure why they continue to do it, but there’s not much I can do about that aside from set the record straight."

In an interview airing tonight on ABC News, Trump also pointed to an actual Pew Research report about outdated voter rolls, but according to its own the author, that report found no instances of voter fraud."

"The authors were essentially basing their claims on two pieces of data associated with the large survey—a question that asks people whether they are citizens and official vote records to which each respondent has been matched to determine whether he or she had voted. Both these pieces of information include some small amounts of measurement error, as is true of all survey questions. What the authors failed to consider is that measurement error was entirely responsible for their results. In fact, once my colleagues and I accounted for that error, we found that there were essentially zero non-citizens who voted in recent elections.

The biggest source of error with the Richman study was its use of one of the survey questions to identify “non-citizens.” Survey respondents occasionally select the wrong response by accident—perhaps because they are rushing through and not reading the questions carefully, because they do not fully understand the terminology being used, or because they simply click on the wrong box on the page. Such errors are infrequent, but they happen in any survey. In this case, they were crucial, because Richman and his colleagues saw the very small number of people who answered that they were “immigrant non-citizens,” and extrapolated that (inaccurate) number to the U.S. population as a whole.

How do we know that some people give an inaccurate response to this question? Well, we actually took 19,000 respondents from one of the surveys that Richman used (the 2010 study) and we interviewed them again in 2012. A total of 121 of the 19,000 respondents (.64 percent) identified themselves as immigrant non-citizens when they first answered the survey in 2010. However, when asked the question again in 2012, 36 of the 121 selected a different response, indicating that they were citizens. Even more telling was this: 20 respondents identified themselves as citizens in 2010 but then in 2012 changed their answers to indicate that they were non-citizens. It is highly unrealistic to go from being a citizen in 2010 to a non-citizen in 2012, which provides even stronger evidence that some people were providing incorrect responses to this question for idiosyncratic reasons."

However I doubt you took the time to read that as the only ‘research’ you do is for confirmation of your ‘beliefs’

the irony!

This is an old study that totally debunks your statement.

i love trumptards. they call every one else NPC's yet they regurgitate and are fooled by basic propaganda like the good little bots they are.

 

[Badfishy1]

Cool. Based on your own rights/ privilege, education is not a RIGHT therefore no government control. Expanding a little further, due to inalienable RIGHTS, I have the free will to do with my own body as I please. Therefore smoking gambling and drinking laws are bunk. Funny how the gender benders refer back to constitution when convenient yet shit all over it when inconvenient (ie presidential powers)

 

[White Beard]

people in other countries are shocked that americans are willing to give up there social care in order to finance the imperialistic goals of our military run gov.

Now, now, you can’t compare anything in or about the USA with anything done by or in any other country, ‘cause we’re THE BEST. At EVERYTHING.

We know everything, too.
Just ask us...

 

[White Beard]

1st of, no country is better than the USofA.
No, of course not, we’re surrounded by idiots, obviously....

2nd, we have the BEST healthcare in the world. Just about everything comes from us.
At least, we have the most *expensive* healthcare in the world, but it is true that dictators and their families choose US medical facilities above all others.

We lead the way in medical advances...not socialist countries using our products.
Not since we stopped funding research...most medical advances over the last 50 years have come through research funded or conducted by the National Institutes. That’s okay, though, once they get rid of regulation, they’ll be able to make tons of money on drugs even the FDA won’t approve

Free markets lead to innovation...no government run anything can 'make' innovation.
An article of faith, as pure as any dying renunciate

Romper Room easy...if you’re four years old

Have a nice night

 

[White Beard]

In his book, Prouty, briefing officer of the US President from 1955-63, narrates a remarkable incident in which Winston Churchill made a most revealing utterance during World War II. He writes: On this particular night there had been a heavy raid on Rotterdam. He sat there, meditating, and then, as if to himself, he said: 'Unrestricted submarine warfare, unrestricted air bombing - this is total war. He continued sitting there, gazing at a large map, and then said: Time and the Ocean and some guiding star and 'High Cabal have made us what we are. Prouty adds: This was a most memorable scene and a revelation of reality that is infrequent, at best. If for the great Winston Churchill, there is a 'High Cabal that has made us what we are, our definition is complete. Who could now better than Churchill himself during the darkest days of World War II, that there exists, beyond doubt, an international 'High Cabal?

I am familiar with Prouty, and not disposed to discount him; yet I wouldn’t seize upon this “high cabal” reference without some reason for doing so. Was Prouty at that place with Churchill, is he recalling his own knowledge? From context, it seems that it’s he that provides the emphasis, not Churchill.
As for cabals, high and low, there is every reason to believe that billionaires have far more in common with other billionaires than with any nation-state or voting block, and the noose isn’t being tightened more here than it is around the world.

At the same time, there is not *one* conspiracy, but many, and much overlap amount them.

 

[Gry]

I am familiar with Prouty, and not disposed to discount him; yet I wouldn’t seize upon this “high cabal” reference without some reason for doing so. Was Prouty at that place with Churchill, is he recalling his own knowledge? From context, it seems that it’s he that provides the emphasis, not Churchill.
As for cabals, high and low, there is every reason to believe that billionaires have far more in common with other billionaires than with any nation-state or voting block, and the noose isn’t being tightened more here than it is around the world.

At the same time, there is not *one* conspiracy, but many, and much overlap amount them.

I provided that particular citation, because both men were in a unique position to make such an observation, and because of the reverence one had for the others perspective. Prouty was not with him at that moment, though they did know each other and did spend time together on several occasions.
I am uncertain how anyone who is aware of the unusual backstory and the efforts put into undoing the distribution the book, could ever doubt it. More money manpower and resources went into the effort of suppressing it than with any other book I have ever heard of. Entire bookstore's inventories of them evaporated overnight, warehouses full of yet to be delivered books went suddenly and mysteriously empty.
Of course, even that was 'cleaned up', but first editions are collectors items.

Any one interested in it can read it free here:
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/
I prefer reading to other media, but would suggest going to youtube for the audio version of the book, which is done by Prouty himself. There are powerful emotional inputs he delivers in the audio which are not conveyable reading the publication.

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[Iman_Iffigai]

I provided that particular citation, because both men were in a unique position to make such an observation, and because of the reverence one had for the others perspective. Prouty was not with him at that moment, though they did know each other and did spend time together on several occasions.
I am uncertain how anyone who is aware of the unusual backstory and the efforts put into undoing the distribution the book, could ever doubt it. More money manpower and resources went into the effort of suppressing it than with any other book I have ever heard of. Entire bookstore's inventories of them evaporated overnight, warehouses full of yet to be delivered books went suddenly and mysteriously empty.
Of course, even that was 'cleaned up', but first editions are collectors items.

Any one interested in it can read it free here:
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/


I prefer reading to other media but would suggest going to youtube for the audio version of the book, which is done by Prouty himself. There are powerful emotional inputs he delivers in the audio which are not conveyable reading the publication...

I'm a reader too...