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The End of Caregiving As We Know It In Michigan: Medical Marijuana Bills Pass Senate

Treetroit City

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I got a buddy who owns a dispenso whos talkin to his lawyer this tuesday...

he seemed hopeful for 500-1500 plant count licensed buildings that would have labs come out and test the material when harvested then to be picked up by armor car to go to____. We both did not know for sure where the cars would go, straight to dispensaries or to a processing center to be labeled.

crazy how little people are looking into the details, this is no joke.
How would the lab come out and test it? Pack up the lab in a truck and drive it on over?
 

Treetroit City

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so my buddy talked to his lawyer and he said we got a year after they pass it in january till everyone gets their licenses and things start rolling.

glad to hear it, but still! don't get too comfy!

Everyone with few hundred thousand in the bank and deemed by the republican led board to have "good moral character".

Does your buddy who owns the currently illegal dispensary think the board will issue him a license? When filing his financial disclosure will he admit to have been gaming the system by having a dispensary running after the supreme court deemed them to be illegal?

I would think the boards first job might be to make sure current owners are not given licenses.
 

prune

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so my buddy talked to his lawyer and he said we got a year after they pass it in january till everyone gets their licenses and things start rolling.

glad to hear it, but still! don't get too comfy!

The act becomes effective 90 days after the Gov signs the bills (today), THEN the newly formed board has one year to formulate plans, rules and regulations. AFTER that one year, it is mandated that the board begin to accept applications for the various licenses being offered.

It doesn't look like you will see many of these large facilities being built on spec, and even on a crazy fast buildout followed by a veg and bloom cycle, legal and fresh meds don't stand a chance of becoming available until autumn of 2018.

Consider those likely circumstances with the explicit included verbiage in the legislation tasking and enabling the board to facilitate access and supply for the community. Under those terms i would expect a certain governmental laissez faire about dispensary stock until a sufficient number of grow licenses have been issued to guarantee supply.

Calculating the angles of all that might allow some optimism for the status quo till January or June of 2019?
 

paladin420

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More rules to send growers to prison. More shitty dyspo weed. Keep letting our enemies write the laws and this is what you get.
11/08/16 re-elect No Body
 

DanDanger

Member
Shit. Sorry, guys. Welcome to the machine. It's the same in Canada, I'm pretty sure. People with millions upon millions of dollars, with investors at their hip are taking over the industry here. You have to a rich piece of shit, who's never smoke cannabis before in order to open a licensed production facility. You have to be able to suck farts from the asses of the big wigs, have a stupid, pudgy little smile, and chubby little fingers. The humble home growers are being ratted on by those that run the LP's. You think you got it rough over there, eh? Awwwwwwe... Muffin...
 

GoatCheese

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sounds like the State is getting ready to hand off the MMJ worries to big business.
Exactly.

What this program will also do, of course, it will inflate the end price people have to pay for it in a shop.

..SO THAT THERE WOULD BE ROOM FOR A BLACK MARKET WEED!!! = for cartels, mobsters and gangs etc.

Just like in Amsterdam, where streets and coffeeshops are largely supplied by organized crime.

When a gram of weed is costing 15 dollars in a legal shop, i bet a pushers can sell the same stuff out of a "pizzeria" for 10$/gram quite fast.

No? Would US gov give such a gift to organized crime ...naaaah, in USA where politicians are just as corrupt as the Russians, they would never do this, no.

.."forget about it.":biggrin:
 

Treetroit City

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Exactly.

What this program will also do, of course, it will inflate the end price people have to pay for it in a shop.

..SO THAT THERE WOULD BE ROOM FOR A BLACK MARKET WEED!!! = for cartels, mobsters and gangs etc.

Just like in Amsterdam, where streets and coffeeshops are largely supplied by organized crime.

When a gram of weed is costing 15 dollars in a legal shop, i bet a pushers can sell the same stuff out of a "pizzeria" for 10$/gram quite fast.

No? Would US gov give such a gift to organized crime ...naaaah, in USA where politicians are just as corrupt as the Russians, they would never do this, no.

.."forget about it.":biggrin:

The gift they're giving is to the police. It's not so much scary organized crime but normal everyday joes that the police can continue to pray upon with easy arrests and civil forfeiture.
 

GoatCheese

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The gift they're giving is to the police. It's not so much scary organized crime but normal everyday joes that the police can continue to pray upon with easy arrests and civil forfeiture.
..sure, so the corrupt state can't present results for the voters


Also they can clean the streets of the indipendent street dealers and allow the cartels to roll into town.
:)
 

TheMan13

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Regulatory capture is a form of government failure that occurs when a regulatory agency, created to act in the public interest, instead advances the commercial or political concerns of special interest groups that dominate the industry or sector it is charged with regulating. When regulatory capture occurs the interests of firms or political groups are prioritised over the interests of the public, leading to a net loss to society as a whole. Government agencies suffering regulatory capture are called "captured agencies".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture

This racketeering (capture) needs two sides to hedge their bets effectively, be it Democrat vs Republican establishments (special interests) or LEO vs NORML attorneys. We've needed a third option for quite some time, lets hope a militia and civil war is not our only option ...

Has anyone banked more on "medical marijuana" with less risk (skin in the game) than our friendly NORML attorneys the past couple of decades nationwide? Is there anyone whom will profit more from this MI legislative scheme and the corporate gigs it produces? They're already selling their "services" all over social media even before the dust settles. If they hadn't been lobbying for this legislation in Lansing the past year, maybe someone could have caught and planned for the six month signature drive rule (standing since 1973) that derailed MILegalize making the ballot.

Maybe I'm just tired of being relentlessly taxed and let down by these folks (brain trusts), but something needs to change.
 

morgandecaptain

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If it's not too late. The new strategy they seem to have adopted nation wide is to preempt ballot initiatives with their own corrupt systems and make it harder to get things on the ballot. They are also getting big pharma and other big stakeholders to bankroll the fight against recreational. Their greed knows no bounds and they will try to crush anyone that gets in their way.
 

morgandecaptain

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And don't forget our for profit jail and prison system and forfeiture laws. Law enforcement will be funded by this new system so they will be able to lock up even more people and it looks like penalties will increase.
 

TheMan13

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MiLegalize just announced they are gonna save us in 2018... This time they really really mean it

So they plan to be lobbying for corporate recreational legislation in Lansing behind closed doors for the next couple of years. What could go wrong ;-)~
 
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