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Miraculous Meds
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Those temps and the low ph are playing havoc on ur nutrients availability. I agree with fever that I see K def too. But obviously ur nutrient has plenty in there. A prime example of how I was trying to explain earlier that environment, ph, over/underwatering, or bugs are what get ur nutrient availability out of order and create deficiencies when u know u have them in the mix. I wouldn't go adding any more nutrient at this point. Id start adding water only. Ur low ph is due probably to salt build up. Or root rot. Either way it requires u to do water only feeds imo. Maybe some of that lime that is powderized in ur water can help bring ur ph up for a feed or 2. Id search around the icmag site to make sure that adding some lime this late wont effect flavor or burnability.
Don't do anything too drastic. Ur getting close to the end. I doubt they will go as long as normal considering the deficiencies and stresses. But u will still have good herb. Just a little less and a little faster.
Don't do anything too drastic. Ur getting close to the end. I doubt they will go as long as normal considering the deficiencies and stresses. But u will still have good herb. Just a little less and a little faster.
plants looking good I wouldn't worry too much, if you ph is to low in soil a flush of straight tap water should help bump it back up, just in time for your flush any way. Im assuming your tap water is alkaline and in the ranges on 7-8 so it should raise it up, just a thought there 
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He uses emulsion and duck waste water for veg and then bloomed them with the synthetic. Nitrates and urea help regulate ph. Could it be from the duck water? Too much urea? Then switch to synthetics would hinder the microbes which were regulating his ph prior to bloom, then the low ph caused his nute issues.
@Mirac... thanks brah... lot of good explanations there...I feel you on the drastic shit... as its the last week or two I also feel its best to just play it safe, not try anything clever and just feed plain rain water with aspirin from now till chop... Silly questions but how can I tell that they wont make another day or so? I mean I wana try take it to 63days, but what signs am I looking for that will tell me "todays the day"....??
@tleaf jr... brah whats up, hope you keeping well..? thanks for the kind words but the standards not really "acceptable" for me lol... I need to put more effort in... no idea bout the ph of tap water and rain water, I only tested the run off... I got some stuff to do I guess... bring the flush!
@Lady, nah no duck water, its unbrewd unaired worm tea... havnt had geese for like ten years now... and I stopped using rain water around week 3 I think and used the tap water... thinking thered by some micro shit in there or wat eves... but Ill start the "flush" with rain water....
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to read my posts and reply... Very much appreciated....
@tleaf jr... brah whats up, hope you keeping well..? thanks for the kind words but the standards not really "acceptable" for me lol... I need to put more effort in... no idea bout the ph of tap water and rain water, I only tested the run off... I got some stuff to do I guess... bring the flush!
@Lady, nah no duck water, its unbrewd unaired worm tea... havnt had geese for like ten years now... and I stopped using rain water around week 3 I think and used the tap water... thinking thered by some micro shit in there or wat eves... but Ill start the "flush" with rain water....
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to read my posts and reply... Very much appreciated....
Miraculous Meds
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don't stress about sun leaves showing deficiencies or dying off at this point. U go by the trichomes. When the majority get cloudy ur good. U don't want to many turning amber on u. That's how u can tell how far u can push it without converting too much thc into cbn. If u don't use a scope, u can get a pretty fair assessment of the end of harvest window by the swollenness of the calyx's, and the die back and color change of the pistils. 95%, give or take, of the pistils changing colors, is about the end of the harvest window.
...I was told take em wen they look done , as a youngn...
@Mirac... shot brah... I make out a bit for the amber an the swollen calyxs you mention... What I meant to convey is: By all accounts the plants arnt at premium heath and conditions are far from perfect... How much longer will the plants actually still live for with regards to the above info..?? My thinking[paranoia] leads me to believe that under current status they might not make it to 63 days without it being detrimental to the end product..?? As in I see there being a critical window in which to take these..?? Maybe I need to take better more detailed pics..??
@tleaf jr...
wats up brah... yeah Id love to take em 70.... last time with her was 63... love to do one better... if she'll let me... Im about smokeless... so they already kinda look "done".... if ya get me.... lol
Check like even right now, lights on bout 2 hours back and its fucking hot 32.8dC... crazy...
And a lot of those fuct leaves arent crisp like.... they not soggy you know... but defo limp... fuck I reallyreally cant afford to fuck this harvy up being so so close and it being a bit of a hack to do and its taken me what, like a year hey Mirac....?
@tleaf jr...
wats up brah... yeah Id love to take em 70.... last time with her was 63... love to do one better... if she'll let me... Im about smokeless... so they already kinda look "done".... if ya get me.... lol Check like even right now, lights on bout 2 hours back and its fucking hot 32.8dC... crazy...
And a lot of those fuct leaves arent crisp like.... they not soggy you know... but defo limp... fuck I reallyreally cant afford to fuck this harvy up being so so close and it being a bit of a hack to do and its taken me what, like a year hey Mirac....?
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Just push em till they're ready and don't worry! They will finish when they're ready. All my plants had an issue except one. They just finished early and if you're out of smoke....
@Lady... yeah I fret like a 16year old school girl... dont I? 
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Ur getting there brother. Just took a little longer this round. But u will be stronger and smarter for all the troubles u went thru. And it will be even better next time. Now what I meant about harvest was, ive fukd shit up worse than this, Taken 70 day strains at day 56. As long as the buds are still growing healthy don't let the plant dying off effect ur judgment for harvest. As long as the plant isn't wilting over effecting the bud production, u let them finish off like normal. Just with the problems it might be day 56 instead of 70 like my situation was. U judge still by the trichomes and the pistils. when they fade, u have to harvest or the thc turns to cbn. Whether that's day 50 or 75 is irrelevant.
@Lady... yeah I fret like a 16year old school girl... dont I?
Fretting is good doing some right now lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_XetrdAdOM
@Dr... fucking good video that... youtube fucking chows data in africa... but once I saw the "seed" I coudnt stop watching.... hope I make the month out now, lol...
@Mirac... thanks again for all the info... much appreciated... cool dude, I make out for what to keep an eye out for now, but please if I post shit that catches your eye, please shout....
Getting fucking ampt to rock this next round....
Getting fucking ampt to rock this next round....
Pic update...
End of day 48 of flower...
Doorway shot...
Right fence...
Tighter shot of right fence... showing damage...
Left fence...
Fan layout...
End of day 48 of flower...
Doorway shot...
Right fence...
Tighter shot of right fence... showing damage...
Left fence...
Fan layout...
Continued...
Left fence...
Middle fence...
Right fence...
Clump of buds that I feel are slowing "dying..."
Nother bud looking not too happy...
Left fence...
Middle fence...
Right fence...
Clump of buds that I feel are slowing "dying..."
Nother bud looking not too happy...
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Don't you have a scope? Look at the trichs on the buds to see if you have some amber heads.
And Continued...
Doorway girl... pretty disappointed...
With her back in place...
And one thrown up there...
I know It dont look like it... but I got in there last night and cleaned as much of the dead/dying/fuct fan leaves off that I could... although it dont look like it, I did... Yesterday the first cold from of the year blew in... temps dropped from 33dC to 23dC in the space of two hours... so today ligts off the broomroom has read 22dC and 45%RH... fuck yeah... one "nyt" of their lives "I" got it right....
As you can see in the pics the first plant on the left fence is taking a hammering... me thinks its from the light[amongst other stated things], In the first pic to the left of the frame, its outa focus but one can see heaps of fucking bleaching... also the first three girls[doorway bitch and hoes to each side of her are suffering the worst.... and maybe its got to do with that smaller fan, the diameter is much smaller than the back, its still creating a thermal or rising air, but perhaps the back lager one is pushing a much bigger surface area.... dunno... just some thoughts...??
Gona start that plain water and aspirin from tonight Mirac... hopefully they make two weeks, I think Ill be fucking lucky if they make another 7 days to be honest...
Some more thoughts over this grow...
a: get another large floor fan....[that steal one cost R550]
b: dont try do indoor flowering during months of dec/jan/feb without a minimum of 10 00BTU AC...
b:tryyyyy insulate flat... coz last winter lights off got down to 15dC...
c: build dedicated mother room... so I can fuck the outdoors silly... running more than one mh 400 in there a the mo will create to much heat...
d: still have a cut of cheese and a cut of bluedream Iv never flowered...
e: and all I can think of is popping some of these new proper beans I got...
f: I need this fucking equinox...
g: I need to get things so sorted before the following equinox...
My unfed outdoor clones look to be doing much better than the broomroom.... must get pics....
Iv cooked up some soil for the next set of clones, I had it cooking in 4gallon fabric bags[dbled] and have 6 of these bags. Plan on putting 2 clones in each bag. Clones been getting really root bound... they the same cut as this current round... wanna try get it done better, and with the temps cooling down in bout 6 weeks things should be okay. Im defo gona veg the sweet fuck outa this lot... really hope I can keep them banging, I mean get them banging in the next few days, keeping an eye out for any fucking mites and RA's and FG's... coz Im planting them into homemade diy africa soil.... they been in their cups four weeks already and spent two weeks in the cloner.... and probs two weeks till the rooms ready, but they wont be, so Il at least veg for a month once dbled planted into their 4g fabric pots...
lesbians... oh goody....
Doorway girl... pretty disappointed...
With her back in place...
And one thrown up there...
I know It dont look like it... but I got in there last night and cleaned as much of the dead/dying/fuct fan leaves off that I could... although it dont look like it, I did... Yesterday the first cold from of the year blew in... temps dropped from 33dC to 23dC in the space of two hours... so today ligts off the broomroom has read 22dC and 45%RH... fuck yeah... one "nyt" of their lives "I" got it right....
As you can see in the pics the first plant on the left fence is taking a hammering... me thinks its from the light[amongst other stated things], In the first pic to the left of the frame, its outa focus but one can see heaps of fucking bleaching... also the first three girls[doorway bitch and hoes to each side of her are suffering the worst.... and maybe its got to do with that smaller fan, the diameter is much smaller than the back, its still creating a thermal or rising air, but perhaps the back lager one is pushing a much bigger surface area.... dunno... just some thoughts...??
Gona start that plain water and aspirin from tonight Mirac... hopefully they make two weeks, I think Ill be fucking lucky if they make another 7 days to be honest...
Some more thoughts over this grow...
a: get another large floor fan....[that steal one cost R550]
b: dont try do indoor flowering during months of dec/jan/feb without a minimum of 10 00BTU AC...
b:tryyyyy insulate flat... coz last winter lights off got down to 15dC...
c: build dedicated mother room... so I can fuck the outdoors silly... running more than one mh 400 in there a the mo will create to much heat...
d: still have a cut of cheese and a cut of bluedream Iv never flowered...
e: and all I can think of is popping some of these new proper beans I got...
f: I need this fucking equinox...
g: I need to get things so sorted before the following equinox...
My unfed outdoor clones look to be doing much better than the broomroom.... must get pics....
Iv cooked up some soil for the next set of clones, I had it cooking in 4gallon fabric bags[dbled] and have 6 of these bags. Plan on putting 2 clones in each bag. Clones been getting really root bound... they the same cut as this current round... wanna try get it done better, and with the temps cooling down in bout 6 weeks things should be okay. Im defo gona veg the sweet fuck outa this lot... really hope I can keep them banging, I mean get them banging in the next few days, keeping an eye out for any fucking mites and RA's and FG's... coz Im planting them into homemade diy africa soil.... they been in their cups four weeks already and spent two weeks in the cloner.... and probs two weeks till the rooms ready, but they wont be, so Il at least veg for a month once dbled planted into their 4g fabric pots...
lesbians... oh goody....
@yeah I got a scope... but its not that that Im worrying about to much... its those leaves dying off into the buds thats got me nervous.... What you thinking??? Lights on in 3 2 1....
Ps: congrats on the new job you landed....
Ps: congrats on the new job you landed....
