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The 2020 Presidential Election

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med4u

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Leftist pick and choose words and monikers they deem offensive to fit their twisted narrative and then impose that twist on others as if they are somehow "in charge" of setting standards of thought and speech...its a practice in futility in hope of gaining even a miniscule of authority over all others freedoms and liberties
 
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med4u said:
Leftist pick and choose words and monikers they deem offensive to fit their twisted narrative and then impose that twist on others as if they are somehow "in charge" of setting standards of thought and speech...its a practice in futility in hope of gaining even a miniscule of authority over all others freedoms and liberties
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Deep state fake news.
 
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Solemani was such a terrorist that he was on a peace mission when Trump illegally assassinated him lmfao.

The Orwellian mental gymnastics being pulled over this one is quite ridiculous.
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Yes, after killing hundreds of Americans. thousands of Iranians, and Iraqis, after attempting to blow up a restaurant in DC, after upending the middle east for decades , after attempting to kill Americans in there embassy now Solumanie, and the Mullahs have turned a new leaf. They are spreading peace to the world. All while being aligned with Russia, and China.


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Gypsy Nirvana

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Best have the answer to that report from TROP https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/MediaBiasFactCheck.aspx - just for balance:

A negative review of TROP by MediaBiasFactCheck.com is rife with sensationalist terms like "hate group" and "fake news," but it isn't clear if TROP is actually being accused of these things on closer examination. The language in the piece is ambiguous and disjointed. The phrase "may be" is used several times in the initial paragraph, and various "and/or" conjunctions separate harsh-sounding phrases.

This is kind of like us saying that the person who wrote the review "may be a malcontent and/or cannibal."

MediaBiasFactCheck asserts that "one or more" of a list of provocative charges "may" be true, but doesn't provide much to go on, at least in the opening paragraph - which is situated beneath a scary-looking bar that appears to be driven by a popularity poll at the end with five negative choices to one positive.

The substance of the review is in the "notes" portion:

In reality, this is a website that promotes anti-Muslim propaganda through only posting negative information about Islam, such as crimes that may not be related to ones religion such as this where they link to a Mixed factual source. In general, this source links to other media that has a right wing bias or is otherwise questionable by our methodology. The Religion of Peace also sources Robert Spencer in articles, who is on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s hate list. Overall, we rate The Religion of Peace as Questionable for having an extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy/propaganda and hate group tendencies.

The charge that TROP is "anti-Muslim" is addressed on our 'critics' page. While it is true that a great deal of negative (but truthful) information about Islam is posted on the site, TROP goes well out of its way in prominent postings to discourage discrimination and ill will toward Muslims as people. It seems that an objective reviewer would point this out. In fact, by not mentioning this, isn't MediaBiasFactCheck demonstrating bias in exactly the same way that it is accusing TROP?

The review also accuses TROP of "propaganda," by posting to articles about crimes that "may not be related to one's religion." TROP does sometimes link to stories related to bad behavior, but usually within the context of a larger issue, such as mass Muslim migration. Petty crime that is not much different from any other group is generally ignored. Inaccurate information is never knowingly "propagated" by TROP, nor is there any desire to lead anyone to a false conclusion.

The example cherry-picked by MediaBiasFactCheck is a story linked to on Hürriyet Daily News (a Turkish site) regarding a theft at a church in Turkey by four Muslims. In a country with a history of Christian genocide, ongoing persecution of Christians, and state confiscation of entire churches, it could just be a coincidence that these young men chose a Christian house of worship to rob, rather than one of the many mosques scattered along the way. If so, then point conceded.

However, TROP also posts news stories from Western countries that involve shots fired at mosques, for example, even when the perpetrator and motive are both unknown. TROP also gives attention to genuine hate crimes affecting Muslims, such as the 2017 bombing of a mosque in Minnesota and the 2011 assault of a bystander in California that actually got scant attention at the national level. The reason is that we deplore attacks on innocent people or houses of worship which may be motivated by hate.

MediaBiasFactCheck also takes issue with the fact that TROP "sources" Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch in some of the articles. This is where the "hate group" insinuation is made. Spencer is called a "hate group" by the SPLC, so by linking to him, we are tarred with the same brush. This is not only spurious reasoning, but highly ironic for an organization touting 'reliability,' given the SPLC's recent unmasking.

Even the left-leaning Washington Post states that the SPLC has "lost all credibility" in recent years by "smearing good people with false charges of bigotry." The group even lost a slander suit to an individual who was unfairly slurred in the same way as Spencer. If MediaBiasFactCheck defers to the SPLC for judgment calls, then it certainly speaks poorly to their own credibility.

To further illustrate just how biased MediaBiasFactCheck is in their "reporting," consider Charity and Disaster Relief, the article it cites as an example of what to avoid on TROP. This article contains about a dozen references to mainstream news sites, seven references to the Hadith, two to fatwas by Islamic scholars, one to the Sharia, one to a financial audit report, and even a link to CAIR's own site.

In fact, the most heavily referenced source in that article is the Quran, with 14 verses quoted and linked. Yet, because there is one generalized quote from Robert Spencer, MediaBiasFactCheck throws out the entire article and rates TROP as "questionable"...

Talk about a case study in propaganda!

Lazy tactics such as these aren't just anti-intellectual, but manipulative. Readers are even warned in dramatic fashion against clicking on the link to TROP (lest they turn into a frog... or something). This isn't real journalism.

Our sense is that MediaBiasFactCheck.com has a knee-jerk bias against critics of Islam, and uses inflammatory buzzwords to create a false impression. This doesn't speak to an organization concerned with "getting it right."

"Fake news?" There are 150 news links on our sidebar at any time. Find just one that leads to a story that is deliberately false. "Hate group?" Name one thing said on the site that promotes or excuses violence or hatred toward Muslims. If you can't find any of this on TROP, then why use these terms at all? Why not be objective?

TROP applauds any sincere effort to counter misinformation on the Internet. It is our charter as well. But, as Donald Trump's critics correctly point out, "fake news" means something different than 'information you don't agree with'.



audiohi said:
Cited twice that I've seen so far. Once by name, once with its content.


Source: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Detailed Report

Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Lack of Transparency, Anti-Islam
Country: USA
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 48/180

History

Founded in 2002, The Religion of Peace (TROP) is a website that reports on the negative aspects of Islam. According to The Religion of Peace about page they are “a pluralistic, non-partisan site concerned with Islam’s political and religious teachings according to its own texts. The purpose is to counter whitewashing and explain the threat that Islam truly poses to human dignity and freedom, as well as the violence and dysfunction that ensues as a direct consequence of this religion’s supremacist ideology.” The editor of TROP is Glen Roberts. We cannot find much information on Glen Roberts and suspect this may be a pseudonym.

Funded by / Ownership

The website does not clearly disclose ownership. Revenue is generated through advertising and donations.

Analysis / Bias

In review, The Religion of Peace promotes anti-Muslim propaganda through only posting negative information about Islam, such as crimes that may not be related to ones religion, such as this where they link to a Mixed factual source. On the homepage they keep a running count of terror attacks as well as people killed by Muslims in what they call the Jihad Report. Along the right side of the page they publish curated news from a variety of sources. Some of these sources are on our questionable or conspiracy list such as Breitbart, Daily Mail, and MEMRI. However, for the most part, most news links to credible right and left leaning sources such as the BBC and local newspapers, with the common theme of reporting negative news regarding Muslims.

Overall, we rate The Religion of Peace as Questionable for having an extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy/propaganda, lack of transparency and anti-Islam tendencies. (D. Van Zandt 9/15/2017) Updated (9/16/2019)

TROP wrote a criticism of our review that can be read here.

Source: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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packerfan79 said:
Yes, after killing hundreds of Americans. thousands of Iranians, and Iraqis, after attempting to blow up a restaurant in DC, after upending the middle east for decades , after attempting to kill Americans in there embassy now Solumanie, and the Mullahs have turned a new leaf. They are spreading peace to the world. All while being aligned with Russia, and China.


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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pr...n-for-surprise-thanksgiving-visit-with-troops

On a surprise trip to Afghanistan on Thursday, President Trump said that the United States has reopened peace talks with the Taliban - just three months after the president scuttled negotiations between Washington and the Afghan insurgents following a terror attack that killed 11 people, including one U.S. soldier.

Trump, who made his first trip to Afghanistan under a veil of secrecy for security reasons, told troops gathered at the Air Force base for Thanksgiving dinner that the Taliban "wants to make a deal very badly."
 
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med4u said:
:laughing: you should butter up your
Ass....cuz Trumps gonna be all in it
For the next 5yr... having fun yet? :tiphat:
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There you have it, Genuine American Urban Tough Guy gibberish.


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slapmehard

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If you are talking about the cash given to Iran during the deal signed. This was not tax payer money. It was Iranian money which had been seized by the US.
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well ok but the 55b that was imposed by the courts to iran for payments to the families was never paid
2 b was for ransoms for 4 of our people they freed but the then administration said it was for arms we sold them in the 70' which is bs they pulled over the country's eyes
all was a non sanctioned late night deal


funny if they took your house cars and money for an illegal grow you would never get it back guilty or not in most states.
it was not ok for Obama to do this and he caught shit from the u.n for it but you don't hear that just "oh it was their money"from the fake fact checkers
even when the dems fact check its bull shit.


most here are too young to be traumatized by the hostages and the cowardly murders of 300 troops in Lebanon yeah only 3 news stations back then that reported the news there was not "sides" back then
it was all for one
not the opinionated crap of today


they have been chanting death to America for 5 decades
 
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slapmehard said:
well ok but the 55b that was imposed by the courts for payments to the families was never paid
2 b was for ransoms for 4 of our people they freed but the then administration said it was for arms we sold them in the 70' which is bs they pulled over the country's eyes
all was a non sanctioned late night deal


funny if they took your house cars and money for an illegal grow you would never get it back guilty or not in most states.
it was not ok for Obama to do this and he caught shit from the u.n for it but you don't hear that just "oh it was their money"from the fake fact checkers
even when the dems fact check its bull shit.
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What have the Warbiers gotten from North Korea? No billions. Nothing.

tRump got a picture of Kim Jong Un and himself which he's hung in the White House, though.
 
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Yes - I did find the site - thankyou - but thought that since you had posted the report - I would post the reply - since I am a kinda equality guy - and like to hear from both sides of every argument - before I can come to some sort of opinion on any particular topic myself -


audiohi said:
Did you not trust the righties to read and/or click the link in my post to that response? I took the time to make sure that it was there and working.
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audiohi said:
What have the Warbiers gotten from North Korea? No billions. Nothing.

tRump got a picture of Kim Jong Un and himself which he's hung in the White House, though.
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korea was before my time
but n.k is not blowing up our soldiers in recent memory just cock fighting(basicly what trump is doing to iran now)
can you point out how they kill Americans besides when they get locked up over there?
so n.k was chanting death to America for decades? killing our troops
can you please tell us?
no you cant can you
 
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slapmehard said:
korea was before my time
but n.k is not blowing up our soldiers in recent memory just cock fighting(basicly what trump is doing to iran now)
can you point out how they kill Americans besides when they get locked up over there?
so n.k was chanting death to America for decades? killing our troops
can you please tell us?
no you cant can you
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
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audiohi said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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you have nothing
btw
Warbier did not realize that breaking the law over would lead to serious actions
they kill you for less in n.k and iran
was sad I agree but you go to visit in n.k you better leave your petty fun of stealing(for some **** bitch no less) at home in your free country
 
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korea was before my time
but n.k is not blowing up our soldiers in recent memory just cock fighting(basicly what trump is doing to iran now)
can you point out how they kill Americans besides when they get locked up over there?
so n.k was chanting death to America for decades? killing our troops
can you please tell us?
no you cant can you
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Sorry, I needed a break for a second after that.

Otto Warmbier (Korea, as you put it) was imprisioned in North korea in 2016 and was released in 2017. He died shortly after due to torture by the North Koreans.

So, when did you start paying attention?

Welcome to the party, buddy. :woohoo:
 
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