The 2020 Presidential Election

[Capra ibex]

You are too much Hempy.... just too much....

Trump too valuable a soldier.... thanking you later

You are in for a rude awakening one day, when it all 'clicks'.

 

[Zeez]

Yup, Hillary did it.

 

[watts]

Mike Pence is now saying Soleimani aided the group that did 9/11. Lie on top of lie on top of lie.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

You are too much Hempy.... just too much....

Trump too valuable a soldier.... thanking you later

You are in for a rude awakening one day, when it all 'clicks'.

^This wont likely age well.

 

[Absolem]

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[Zeez]

^This wont likely age well.

Kind of like some one rips a huge fart during a quiet prayer moment at a funeral. Then he starts looking around like who did that. Everybody knows.

 

[Capra ibex]

^This wont likely age well.

*cough* Dunning *cough* Kruger *cough, cough*

Brace yourself for the moment you realise Trump is everything you 'aren't buying' that he is.

Just a delusional blowhard, who has you eating out of his palm.

"Yess, Massterr"

 

[Absolem]

In order to understand the middle east one needs to study the middle east pre WW1.
Before WW1 the middle east was composed primarily of Persia and the Ottoman Empire. After WW1 the western powers divided up the middle east to fit their needs and not the needs of the people who lived there. Iraq and Iran didn't even exist. Iran and Iraq are countries that western civilization created. The country we now know as Iraq was part of two separate empires. The borders created by the western civilizations after WW1 have little meaning to the people who live in the middle east now. Half of Iraq feels loyal to Iran because that is where they are from and the other half is more loyal to Turkey.

People can say well that's over 100 years ago. One doesn't need to look any further then the US where 150 years after the civil war the south still holds on tightly to their ideals of the confederacy. The people in the south still refer to northerner's as "Yankees". They still love the propaganda used during the confederacy claiming it's their heritage. The confederacy was 150 years ago. So if the former confederate states can't get over their heritage of the confederacy which lasted 5 short years why would the people in the middle east just accept the borders installed by the west after 1000 plus years of the way their borders once were. Half of the people in Iraq view Iran as their homeland.

It's pretty naive to think people in Iraq who support Iran is some deep state thing. It's too bad they don't realize the borders in the middle east mean nothing to the people who live there. If your only view of the middle east is through the lens of the current borders there you will never understand why the people there hate the west so much.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Wow, that's a wicked sweet zombie, ibex. We have lots of those here in San Francisco.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

This is from 2015. It hints at the afghan opium trade being supplied with advanced gmo opium poppies from (?) (most likely NATO)

https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproj...pium-income-new-strain-high-yield-poppy-seed/

 

[xavier7995]

Lol. Awesome. Reads like the ending to those old batman shows from the 60s. Tune in next week to find out how trumpman thwarts the nasty globalists. Same spoiled brat time same spoiled brat channel.

 

[White Beard]

this was brought up a few pages back
iraqi parliament passed resolution to have all foreign troops leave
Trumps, watcha thinking on this?

I think I was right about Iraq taking this hard.

In another of my “history mouse” footnotes, it’s worth noticing that Iran and Iraq didn’t exist as nations per se until they were carved out of the Ottoman Empire following WW1. Iran is nominally what’s left of Persia, but Iraq was never Iraq, it was Persia, too, *before* the Ottomans.

Can a New Persian union be far behind? THAT would make the Russians, the Chinese, and the Arabs sit up....

It’s already screwed us, especially with Baby Huey in the High Chair....

And this is how you justify imperialism.

Again, the US supports 70% of the worlds dictatorships. If it's really about going after bad guys, why do we literally support a majority of them around the world?

The US has been aiding Saudi led genocide in Yemen that has killed a minimum of 100k since 2015. Absolute fucking crickets on that one from both parties and the media.

A blood-drenched but true thing: the US government has not only supported but installed far more tyrants than it has supported struggles for freedom. This is our eternal shame in my eyes - a betrayal of the American vision of freedom from oppression. Yemen, ghastly as it is, is only the most recent...and not nearly the horror we helped Israel inflict on Gaza only a few years ago.

Our government, it seems, cannot be ashamed.
WE however should be. Ashamed enough to keep it in check.

I guess that you get your 'funded mental-ists' - or fundamentalists in every sect/cult - who become missionary's - and with the Abrahamic religions - those are the believers who actually literally believe exactly what 'the word of god' says in the holy books - and try and follow those teachings to the letter - and follow that way of life - as it was written and ordained by god,allah or yaweh (pretty much the same concept) -

All of them condemn homosexuality -

Not explicitly, though: there was a prior commandment to be fruitful and multiply. The problem with Onan was not the pulling out per se but the not making babies with his sister in law like he was supposed to (?) part, so by that same token, the issue with same-sex sex could be / might have been the lack of fruitfully multiplying and therefore the breaking of the ‘fruitful’ commandment.

Actually, I think that’s as reasonable an exegesis as I’ve seen...

The Iranians run the Iraqi parliament. They’re probably relieved that Trump pulled this shit because it’s takes attention away from the anti-Iran riots that have killed 100’s over the last few months in Baghdad.

See my remarks above abuot Iran and Iraq, I think they apply here as well...though I have only heard of anti-govt protests in Baghdad

well, Iran has just announced a full restart on its nuclear program
i just don't see the Trump plan of mideast withdrawal being the "plan" anymore
quite the opposite actually

Apparently, none of those wise, smart people in the Trump regime and his waltzing chorus could foresee ANY of this - unlike everyone else.... If Baby Huey pulls this off as less than an utter catastrophe, I’ll be convinced he’s the Antichrist

Jeez Hempy, We haven't had an OxyMoron in a long time.

I love the enthusiasm with he brings us things we read (and wrote!) 50 years ago to ‘splain it all to us, sort of

He graduated Captain /senior staff six months after the JFK assasination and avoided Johnsons draft (escalation of veitnam war). Could he have been tapped by military intel for a more important role? Could his entire public life be a military intel counter intel operation?

The fact is that it is entirely possible. Look at what is happening in the world right now. Trump became president just in time for the JFK assasination records to be released. Who was supposed to have been president? Hillary?

Did Hillary cover up evidence related to the JFK assasination while she served on the watergate commitee? Yes.

She aranged for Nixon's reignation in exchange for not having Nixon exposed in an impeachment investigation. Remember, Nixon was not impeached. He would have been, were it not for Hillary Clinton.

You’ve got some serious trump-worship going on, and you have a totally fictional notion of the possible. But your Hillary derangement takes pride of place: even if it didn’t require time-travel, it would still be a classic Alex Jones was cock-up.

I’m sure the tale of how the young and inexperienced people temporary staff member “arranged for Nixon’s resignation” is riveting. The bit about Trump as a naive covert superhero keeps people up at night, I’m sure.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I think I was right about Iraq taking this hard.

In another of my “history mouse” footnotes, it’s worth noticing that Iran and Iraq didn’t exist as nations per se until they were carved out of the Ottoman Empire following WW1. Iran is nominally what’s left of Persia, but Iraq was never Iraq, it was Persia, too, *before* the Ottomans.

Can a New Persian union be far behind? THAT would make the Russians, the Chinese, and the Arabs sit up....

...

Is it inconceivable to think the Turks putting the band back together for another album and tour?

 

[armedoldhippy]

Yup, Hillary did it.

dammit, Zeez! you beat me to it. the Clintons' HAD to be in on it...

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

It's a small world. This is where Hillary made her big break into politics in the 70s. Dick Cheney, George Bush, and Donald Rumsfeld were all closely associated with E Howard Hunt. Same people are tied to the Bin Laden Family thru the Carlyle Group (as shown in Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11) and thru the fact that George Bush was director of CIA when CIA recruited Osama Bin Laden.

But don't take my word for it. Research for yourself. Watch Fahrenheit 9/11 if you haven't seen it or it's been a long time.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Hillary's early life is just as interesting. In 1960, at 13 years old, she canvased for Richard Nixon against John F Kennedy. She reported evidence of election fraud against Nixon.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

And the average person wouldn't think there were any connections between any of these people or events.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

How many coincedences can there be before it becomes a pattern?

 

[Lrus007]

 

[audiohi]

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