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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Hempy McNoodle

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I watched this report, which came out about 24 hours before Trumps order to strike. Prior to watching this, I don't think I've ever heard of these two targets. But, this explains the situation well and is worth watching. The guy who puts this daily report together isn't perfect, but is generally a fairly good source for info. Remember that this is one day before Trumps order for the military strike.

https://youtu.be/JfYUO2QiE7o
 

Cannavore

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With 71% of Americans being conservative or moderate
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it's a waste of time to attack Bernie.
or because the best they got on him is hOneYmOoN iN USsR

I think Bernie needs more airtime to make Americans aware of his platforms. Let Bernie take himself out.
i would love that because it would do the opposite of what you think it would.

last i checked 52% of polled Republicans supported M4A
 
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Mr D

The State Dept doesn't issue that without War being eminent. I told ya this was gonna happen. All of you trumpians where in fav of our troops coming home. Now your OK with a new generational war when you know many people will die. You still refuse to speak out against your Master.

Unless Iran is really stupid there will not be any war.

I understand that's what your favorite sources are telling you and you never miss a chance to spread the left's fake hyperbole.

Scanning most the popular conservatives websites you'll see in the comment sections that Trump will lose a sizable chunk of his base if he starts a new war.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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The idea that Trump is using war to help him is highly dubious. In the past, with previous administrations, war was helpful, but that's because the media drummed up support and people beleive the media. It's brainwash.

With Trump it's entirely a different situation. There is no way that war would help him, unless the media helps him along with it. The people only support wars that the media supports. The media is against Trump. War will only hurt Trump, unless he is very very careful. And that os exactly why this is happening: to hurt Trump.

-Logic
 

h.h.

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Bernie's number of $28 million in the last three quarters wasn't accurate. It was actually $34 million. hes absolutely crushing it watch the attacks on Sanders begin to ramp up now.

Democrat money is being split 4 ways. Bernies $34 million is actually much more impressive than trumps $45 million with no GOP competition.
 
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or because the best they got on him is hOneYmOoN iN USsR


i would love that because it would do the opposite of what you think it would.

last i checked 52% of polled Republicans supported M4A

I watched 100% of college students asked about medicare for all support it......until they found out how it actually works. Then support dropped to 0%.
 
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Mr D

From 1970 to 2010, the U.S. supply of physicians increased 150 percent. During the same time period, the supply of healthcare administrators grew more than 3000 percent.

Examples of new bureaucratic spending include expansion of Medicaid.... a website, that cost $2 billion; standing up the Health Insurance Exchanges; and thousands of new bureaucrats. ACA was so complex and confusing it had to create a whole new category of bureaucrats called navigators, to “navigate” Americans through the maze of new, often contradictory regulations. The total cost of the ACA was estimated to be $1.76 trillion, mostly expended on administration, bureaucracy, rules, regulations, and compliance. This is healthcare spending that cannot be used for care.

A jobs report released in December 2019 indicated the healthcare sector added 414,000 new jobs in the past twelve months. If these new jobs follow the same pattern as healthcare job growth in the past, more than 90 percent will be non-value-adding jobs, meaning Americans pay salaries for people who don’t provide patient care.

So let's add more government bureaucracy to a system that already spends 40% on bureaucrats. That will fix it......
 

med4u

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Democrat money is being split 4 ways. Bernies $34 million is actually much more impressive than trumps $45 million with no GOP competition.

Hate to burst your bubble....trump and the rnc raised .5 billion last year
And are sitting pat on 200mil cash on hand...45mil was since impeachment....and he dont have to split it with nobody.....so theres that

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Hempy McNoodle

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In previous wars, there were scores of intelligence officials saying that the reasons for going to war were false (Iraq WMDs, Syria staged chemical attacks). Is anyone telling us that this general was not planning on attacking US personel or territory?
I've read that Bush and Obama declined taking this General out because they were worried about Iranian retaliation. That seems inexcusable. In essence, they were willing to allow him to attack us because they were scared to have a greater war with Iran. Yet, they were always pushing for war with Iran and Russia. Seems that this guy was a CIA asset, to me. Where did ISIS in Syria get their funding? Iran? US tax dollars laundered thru Iran nuclear deal? Is this why Trump exited the deal and ISIS is losing?
 
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Mr D

Your solution is let unhealthy people die.

That doesn't fix anything.

Sure it does... Less people equals less carbon pollution.

But seriously pointing out gross dollar inefficiency in the system does not equate to letting people die Mr Strawman.

It's one of the major underlying causes of the problem. Taking other people's money to "fix" a problem that you don't seem to understand is great for rallies of the uninformed. However in the real world it's an issue that needs to be front and center of any proposed "solution".
 

h.h.

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Deranged trump syndrome is getting boring.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/2020-...fundraising-whos-raised-how-much_3191598.html

Around $75 million vs a measly $46 million. In the last QUARTER.



In the final three months of 2019, the Trump campaign stated it raised $46 million, officials for Bernie Sanders’s election bid said their candidate collected $34.5 million, Pete Buttigieg’s campaign stated it received $24.7 million, and Andrew Yang’s campaign stated he raised $16.5 million.
 

h.h.

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Unless Iran is really stupid there will not be any war.

I understand that's what your favorite sources are telling you and you never miss a chance to spread the left's fake hyperbole.

Scanning most the popular conservatives websites you'll see in the comment sections that Trump will lose a sizable chunk of his base if he starts a new war.

No he won’t. It will be one blunder at a time. His base will love the show.
 

Hammerhead

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The idea that Trump is using war to help him is highly dubious. In the past, with previous administrations, war was helpful, but that's because the media drummed up support and people beleive the media. It's brainwash.

With Trump it's entirely a different situation. There is no way that war would help him, unless the media helps him along with it. The people only support wars that the media supports. The media is against Trump. War will only hurt Trump, unless he is very very careful. And that os exactly why this is happening: to hurt Trump.

-Logic
Its always different when trump's involved and you speak of brainwashed LMAO.
 
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