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The 2020 Presidential Election

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knucklehead bob

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Rights abused always boomerang: in our current political cinema, ways will be found to prevent a party or candidate - in office or not - from getting away with the long-arc subversion that has brought us to this terrifying shared moment.

Here’s a puzzle for the Einstein: what happened 155 years ago that led us directly to our present internal predicament?

No cheating! Put it together from what you (think you) got

The Emancipation Proclamation ?

What most people don't know about the Emancipation Proclamation, is the number of enslaved people who actually were freed when it took effect on January 1, 1863. 1 million? 10 million? Any guesses?

How about zero? Although there were more than four million slaves living in the U.S. at this time, the Emancipation Proclamation did not formally free a single one of them. So that presents us with a couple of very interesting questions: first, why did Lincoln issue the proclamation if it had no practical effect? Second, why is the Emancipation Proclamation considered Lincoln's most important legacy if it didn't actually free anyone?
 

med4u

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i see crude oil spot price has surged 4% this am
so smile trumpets when you fuel up
don't think of it as a war tax
just DT's way to combat global warming

Didnt see you whining when crude shot up 8% after Iran bombed Saudi production facilities a few months ago....you must be one of them selective cry babies..
 

h.h.

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The Emancipation Proclamation ?

What most people don't know about the Emancipation Proclamation, is the number of enslaved people who actually were freed when it took effect on January 1, 1863. 1 million? 10 million? Any guesses?

How about zero? Although there were more than four million slaves living in the U.S. at this time, the Emancipation Proclamation did not formally free a single one of them. So that presents us with a couple of very interesting questions: first, why did Lincoln issue the proclamation if it had no practical effect? Second, why is the Emancipation Proclamation considered Lincoln's most important legacy if it didn't actually free anyone?

What most people do know. It took a war. Most slaves were freed afterwards or during.
 

Bud Green

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Because too many law abiding gun owners are idiots. .

No one would ever call me a gun nut.. no one..
You wouldn't even know I was a gun owner unless you knew me personally. Acquaintances have no idea I own a gun.

I do agree that some law abiding gun owners are idiots..
I would say that "some" is defined by about 1 in 10...or much less..

In my long life, I've known a lot of gun owners. Especially when I've lived in country settings.
Some of them I would even describe as "gun nuts"..
Not a single one of these gun nuts was an idiot...

The gun owning idiots that I have met or known were almost all in city settings...
Fools who wave their guns around because they think they're Rambo.

There are no children living in my house, so to me a "properly stored gun" is a loaded one that I can quickly access..
Not locked up in a gun safe..

I agree that we have problems in this country with murders and terror being committed with a gun as the tool..

Taking mine away from me or forcing me to keep it locked up in safe does nothing good except make it easier for someone with bad intent.

Law abiding gun owners aren't the big problem...

The big problem is the law breaking gun owners.

I don't know the answer to the problem.
But making things tougher for the law abiding gun owners is not the solution.
 

Storm Shadow

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Trump is an zionist shill... he's not only the worst president in history... he's the most fucken stupid person to ever hold that office....

He's toast now.... shed more Gentile blood for God's chosen people aka synagogue of satan

Just to be clear Israel started bombing Iraq last month.

And good ole Chump had to help his buddy Satanyahoo out.. two corrupt fat fucken pigs who deserve to burn in hell
 
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Trump is an zionist shill... he's not only the worst president in history... he's the most fucken stupid person to ever hold that office....

He's toast now.... shed more Gentile blood for God's chosen people aka synagogue of satan

Just to be clear Israel started bombing Iraq last month.

And good ole Chump had to help his buddy Satanyahoo out.. two corrupt fat fucken pigs who deserve to burn in hell

Congress has been carrying out Israel's foreign policy goals for decades. AIPAC's perfect lobbying record proceeds Trump.
 

White Beard

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More people pray for peace daily today than were even alive in 0 AD.
Its efficacy is universal and unquestionable: praying for peace has never worked.

Now we should be good livestock and pray to the sky master that our earth master will not ruin us all before he kills us...most likely so the sky master can continue playing with the thermostat and enjoy our suffering.

Maybe we should pray that ONE of them kill us all *before* ruining everything...that might be the lesser evil, but all of history and christendom says we’d never be so lucky.

“God” must be propped up because without “God” there can be no Divine Right of Kings, and without the divine right of kings to say who owns what, we have no idea what kind of world we could have made. Without “the church” and the divine right of kings, bullies couldn’t have bled Europe dry of coin and blood fighting EACH OTHER. Bullies couldn’t have doled out trade routes, monopolies, franchises, Crown partnerships, lordships, profitable properties *and the inhabitants* thereof to work it for the gifted lordling’s personal profit.

Without the king as head tough guy and the church having unlimited authority second only to the king, concepts of ownership and community would not have been forced into the feudal hierarchy 2000+ years ago, and the world would almost certainly look and feel very different.

As it is, we are still stuck in an ancient feudal mode that continues to serve the powerful and the wealthy, and all the prayers since Jesus arose have not shifted that a single bit.

BY THEIR FRUIT YE SHALL KNOW THEM!
DON’T close your eyes - take a real long hard look at “what God hath wrought”.

This is the world the owners of Christians have made, and they have done it by ultimately killing everyone who didn’t want to be believers in middle-eastern volcano god - and the wealthy and powerful who saw advantage in creating a religion for slaves that would keep them docile and co-operative.

That’s worked well enough, but the pretexts are too thin for most people not in tragic circumstances, and y’all’s branding is for shit these days.

But, who knows, maybe you have an idea: maybe we should put a truck outside your house playing the audiobooks of Christopher Hitchens loudly 24/7. I mean, you don’t care about how WE feel about your broadcasts, you have your perfect right to do it - and by that same right, you should be willing to accept the same disagreeable behavior from others when it intrudes on YOU. Maybe we should just get megaphones and follow you around, just to make sure you know what’s going on, wouldn’t want you to be out of touch - how is that megaphone gig working out for you, BTW?

Not to be okay with the tables turned would be hypocritical - and I’m sure you know what follows “Thou hypocrite!” in the Good Book(tm) - it has to do with lumber, and selective blindness, and paying attention.
 

Cannavore

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When you can't handle the truth...

there's nothing true to that statement. more macho right wing bullshit about not being hawkish and militaristic enough. when all you have is a hammer, everything tends to look like a nail.


but muh hillary will start ww3!
 

Cannavore

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Trump straight up pardoning a murderous war criminal lmao even his fellow navy seals admit so.

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Cannavore

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The Bernie Sanders presidential campaign said Wednesday that it met its fundraising goal of 5 million individual donations, boasting of the number as "more contributions than any campaign has received at this point in a presidential election in the history of our country."

"What we are proving on this campaign is that one does not need to beg the wealthy and the powerful for campaign contributions in order to win elections," Sanders said in an email to supporters announcing the fundraising haul.

"I am proud to say that ours is the only campaign in this Democratic primary with more donations than Donald Trump," wrote Sanders.

"Against Trump, I believe we will have 50 million individual contributions, at least," Sanders wrote. "And at $27 a piece, that would be more than $1 billion.
It's absolutely obscene and outrageous that an election would cost that much money, but our campaign has proven we will be able to raise more than enough money to win."

The average donation to the Sanders campaign has been $18 so far. If that average continued into the fourth quarter of 2019, New York Times reporter Shane Goldmacher estimated that the Sanders campaign brought in $28.5 million in the last three months of the year.

Pete Buttigieg, who's also vying for the Democratic presidential nomination, announced Wednesday that his campaign brought in over $24.7 million in the final three months of 2019 and had over two million donations over the course of the year.

The now former mayor of South Bend, Indiana has been hit by Sanders and rival Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) over his campaign's reliance on wealthy donors.

The Buttigieg campaign was also accused last month of carrying out a "cynical" gimmick to lower the average donation amount in the last quarter.


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...tions-sanders-campaign-celebrates-fundraising
Bernie's number of $28 million in the last three quarters wasn't accurate. It was actually $34 million. hes absolutely crushing it watch the attacks on Sanders begin to ramp up now.
 

Hammerhead

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The State Dept doesn't issue that without War being eminent. I told ya this was gonna happen. All of you trumpians where in fav of our troops coming home. Now your OK with a new generational war when you know many people will die. You still refuse to speak out against your Master.
 
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Bernie's number of $28 million in the last three quarters wasn't accurate. It was actually $34 million. hes absolutely crushing it watch the attacks on Sanders begin to ramp up now.


With 71% of Americans being conservative or moderate it's a waste of time to attack Bernie. I think Bernie needs more airtime to make Americans aware of his platforms. Let Bernie take himself out.
 
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