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The 2020 Presidential Election

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NEW ENGLAND

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Well thanks for that visual....lol
I'll just close my eyes,and think Pamela browns lips....
Pamela Browns lips.....
 

TychoMonolyth

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Everyone had their minds made up in 2016. Most conservatives I know only watched fox when a Trump rally was happening and that's about it. I really doubt the Russians influenced anybody. Many of the Bernie crowd didn't vote and I actually still know a few who still roll with Bernie (some like Elizabeth Warren) or bust.

I think you give the electorate too much credit. People are dumb sheep easily led with the simplest nudge.

A "Nudge" is a concept in behavioral science and is heavily used in marketing. Look it up.

"A nudge makes it more likely that an individual will make a particular choice, or behave in a particular way, by altering the environment so that automatic cognitive processes are triggered to favour the desired outcome."
 

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I think you give the electorate too much credit. People are dumb sheep easily led with the simplest nudge.

A "Nudge" is a concept in behavioral science and is heavily used in marketing. Look it up.

"A nudge makes it more likely that an individual will make a particular choice, or behave in a particular way, by altering the environment so that automatic cognitive processes are triggered to favour the desired outcome."

Easily manipulated.

It is concerning that we got so little. While zombies are happy to claim that as a victory, it is extremely troubling that the Barr redactions have not been questioned and exposed. The whole show was very rushed when you consider the importance to our democracy and Mueller did not seem completely cognizant. Republicans had zero interest in pursuing facts that prove the stability of our government.

It reminds me of the Warren Commission report on JFKs death. The bullet went in here, bounced around inside a couple times, and came out there. Yeah sure it did.
 

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Today some people learned why Mueller didn't want to testify and that Weissmann ran the whole sham.

Schiff shit the bed and withheld all that evidence of Russian collusion he told us about.

In the criminal case against alleged Russian operatives–Internet Research Agency and Concord Management and Consulting LLC–a Federal judge has declared that Robert Mueller has not offered one piece of solid evidence that these defendants were involved in any way with the Government of Russia.

Some people will insist that Mueller and his team have actual intelligence but cannot put that in an indictment. Well boys and girls, here is a simple truth–if you cannot produce evidence that can be presented in court then you do not have a case. There is that part of the Constitution that allows those accused of a crime to confront their accusers.

On April 25, 2019, Concord filed the instant motion in which it argues that the Attorney General and Special Counsel violated Local Rule 57.7 by releasing information to the public that was not contained in the indictment. Concord’s main contention is that the Special Counsel’s Report, as released to the public, and the Attorney General’s related public statements improperly suggested a link between the defendants and the Russian government and expressed an opinion about the defendants’ guilt and the evidence against them.

Judge Friedrich ruled:


Sorry White Beard but this statement


is just not true.

They couldn’t prove Russia was doing what Russia was doing.
Great defense.
Of Russia.
You should be proud.
 

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Mueller just strung it out - for as long as he could - to milk it -

He knew it would be his last Hurrah!
 

h.h.

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Mueller didn’t care about his “last hurrah”.
That’s just plain nuts.

It must be jump on Mueller day.
Trump has nothing else.
 

TychoMonolyth

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I feel kinda sorry for Mueller getting saddled with this just before retirement. It was a lose-lose task for him from the start. You can't please everyone, so stick to the rules, and get hung for that too.

Personally, on the cusp of retirement? I'd have spoken my mind.

From the LA Times:
"As of Wednesday, more than 1,000 former federal prosecutors had signed a statement explaining that, in their professional judgment and based on the facts described in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s report, President Trump would have been criminally charged with obstruction of justice if he were not the president.

This public outcry from such a large group of prosecutors — who have served under Republican and Democratic presidents — is unprecedented and indicative of overwhelming expert agreement on the evidence and law supporting charges against Trump."
(more ...)
 

h.h.

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Enough about Mueller.
He is a better man than any of us.
Better than most.
Focus on what was said.
Trump lied.
Nobody can deny that without lying themselves.
Nobody can deny that without undermining America.
 

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Schiff: "Russia committed federal crimes in order to help Donald Trump?

Mueller: "When you're talking about the computer crimes charged in our case, absolutely."

Schiff: "Trump campaign officials built their strategy - their messaging strategy around those stolen documents?"

Mueller: "Uhm, generally that is true."

Schiff: "And then they lied to cover it up?"

Mueller: "Generally that is true"
 

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NADLER: Director Mueller, the president has repeatedly claimed your report found there was no obstruction and completely and totally exonerated him. That is not what your report said, is it?

MUELLER: Correct, not what the report said.
 

h.h.

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I’d like to see trump stand up to what Mueller endured yesterday.
He didn’t even have the balls to testify.
 

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“Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office?” Buck asked.

“Yes,” Mueller replied.

“You believe that he committed–you could charge the president of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office?” Buck asked.

“Yes,” Mueller replied.
 

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If you say so. He is still Trumptard to me.




I'm not calling you idiots trumptards lol.. you idiots are his supporters.. Ive never used it in the way you imply.. Typical coming from one of Trumptard supports to not understand LMAO. Why would you call me anything related to Clinton. I didn't support her.. Dude pay attention in class lol.

ROLMFAO

"I'm not calling you idiots trumptards "
Ya cant even get mad when ya insulted like that....lol
 

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I’d like to see trump stand up to what Mueller endured yesterday.
He didn’t even have the balls to testify.

Why should he testify? He knew they knew and we knew he wasn't guilty of anything...
You and everybody else should be outraged that political opponents and our top intelligence agencies attempted a coup on a duly elected president in our country
This is treason of the highest degree
And punishable by death in accordance to the laws of the United states
The presidents sworn duty is to protect our country and it's people
From all hostile entities both foriegn and domestic
My only wish is that he had squelched this absurd coup attempt
In its infancy
And that others in our Intel agencies stood by and allowed it to progress
Whether you hate trump or not this
Treacherous act from within our government should deeply disturb and outrage every citizen
If it can happen to one...why would you assume it could not happen to another?
Of coarse he tried to obstruct it...and in doing so exposed the darkened deep state forcing it to light for all to see
Thank you Mr President
This is exactly the kind of shit we elected Trump for...no one else would have the balls to do so
 
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