The 2020 Presidential Election

[Mr D]

1 - no-one “learned” either of those things today, or any other day

2 - straight out attack on Schiff, based on what? No evidence?

You mean the evidence the administration is sitting on, refusing to release to the House, refusing to acknowledge much less perform its constitutional duty, refusing to adhere to the courts, basically daring Pelosi to arrest him or fuck off? The point of all the obstruction, the product of the investigation, but NOOOO, eh? Schiff’s an asshole because no one knows how to make trump obey the law, I guess? Otherwise Schiff would have it all already?

3 - Yes, the evidence. The evidence illegally kept from the appropriate investigative body, the refusal to deal with the House at all except via the insult and character assassination that IS HIS ONGOING OBSTRUCTION to force his version of reality on the nation. The evidence that would help us defend ourselves against next year’s election, against further, deeper, more effective intrusions, the evidence that would allow the House to perform its role of legislation and to perform their duty to safeguard those things that allow us to be as free a nation as we are - like our elections.

GOP has absolutely no interest in securing our nation from known threats, McConnell refuses to introduce any legislation the house passes for the purpose, refuses to stand by the House as the co-equal branch of government congress was intended to be, in fighting against executive malfeasance, in fulfilling their own oaths.

(I’m sure your tidbit from April was awesome)

No evidence?

Schiff went to TV numerous times claiming evidence of Russian/Trump collusion/conspiracy.

Here I saved you the trouble of doing a simple search

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Schiff+evidence+of+collusion

 

[packerfan79]

You do realize Trumptrad telling Don McGahn to lie was Obstruction? Committing a crime and not being changed doesn't excuse the crime.

If so Muller should have recommended an indictment. Today Muller gave 3 conflicting opinions on the OLC opinion. Ultimately it is clear this report is Mullers in name only. Now its completely obvious why he claimed he would only refer to the report. He didn't write it, and doesn't know what is in it.

I could give 2 fucks about a n American citizen exercising his first ammendment right to criticize.I give even less fucks about a president exercising his constitutional authority.

In no way did Trump obstruct Muller from doing his job. Mullers words not mine.

That's it. Our law enforcement, and DOJ actively engaged in a corrupt investigation. They new all along it was bogus.

But, but, but, obstruction of justice.

 

[Mr D]

1 - no-one “learned” either of those things today, or any other day

2 - straight out attack on Schiff, based on what? No evidence?

You mean the evidence the administration is sitting on, refusing to release to the House, refusing to acknowledge much less perform its constitutional duty, refusing to adhere to the courts, basically daring Pelosi to arrest him or fuck off? The point of all the obstruction, the product of the investigation, but NOOOO, eh? Schiff’s an asshole because no one knows how to make trump obey the law, I guess? Otherwise Schiff would have it all already?

3 - Yes, the evidence. The evidence illegally kept from the appropriate investigative body, the refusal to deal with the House at all except via the insult and character assassination that IS HIS ONGOING OBSTRUCTION to force his version of reality on the nation. The evidence that would help us defend ourselves against next year’s election, against further, deeper, more effective intrusions, the evidence that would allow the House to perform its role of legislation and to perform their duty to safeguard those things that allow us to be as free a nation as we are - like our elections.

GOP has absolutely no interest in securing our nation from known threats, McConnell refuses to introduce any legislation the house passes for the purpose, refuses to stand by the House as the co-equal branch of government congress was intended to be, in fighting against executive malfeasance, in fulfilling their own oaths.

(I’m sure your tidbit from April was awesome)

Soon you'll learn there was no appropriate investigative body. It's illegal to lie to the courts and Durham's interview with Misfud which gets to the basis for the investigation is going to show Trump was actually a crime victim. Crimes were committed by people in the FBI and DOJ, probably the CIA as well.



Look I get it you don't like Trump and it's understandable but you are smart enough to know this whole thing was complete bullshit.

 

[packerfan79]

Here's a prime example of what they have become.


Erica Thomas Publix surveillance video just released… And it’s not good for Erica!

A Publix employee told a Cobb County officer that she witnessed part of the conversation and heard Thomas “continuously tell Eric Sparkes to ‘Go back where you came from!’” but did not hear Sparkes utter those words to Thomas.

Here you can watch the lying racist bitch say it for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5KgfVkVRbg

Another Democratic fake hate crime. If Democrats don't have racism to complain about, they just pile a fake hate crime on to Trump and his voters. It's really getting old. The media is disgusting in the fever to find racism where it doesn't exist.

Covington,Smollett, Thomas. Their are plenty more.

 

[Hammerhead]

Paying attention is a issue for ya. No POTUS has the authority to tell the white house lawyer to falsify documents lol. I think all of us here know where your loyalties lie. Whats the point in the back and forth. To make yourself feel better lol.

 

[packerfan79]

No evidence?

Schiff went to TV numerous times claiming evidence of Russian/Trump collusion/conspiracy.

Here I saved you the trouble of doing a simple search

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Schiff+evidence+of+collusion

I guess White Beard doesn't know what co-equal branches of government are. No surprise there

 

[Hammerhead]

Why treat a dem crime any different? Why do you excuse crimes committed by GOP/POTUS?.

 

[Mr D]

Paying attention is a issue for ya. No POTUS has the authority to tell the white house lawyer to falsify documents lol. I think all of us here know where your loyalties lie. Whats the point in the back and forth. To make yourself feel better lol.

No documents were falsified it was a conversation about something that never happened.

Keep on graspin....

 

[Mr D]

I guess White Beard doesn't know what co-equal branches of government are. No surprise there

He seems weirdly over defensive of Schiff for brains. Not sure what that is about.

 

[Hammerhead]

How does your pea brain equate disdain for the weaponization of intelligence and law enforcement with your false assumptions about those of us who require evidence before parroting known liars?

Your spewing the same talking points as Fox news. We know where you got that info lol. Why not wait for the IG report.. I dont see it the see why you idiots do. There's plenty of evidence but you refuse to except it. The biggest liar of all is Trumptard but still you refuse to admit that.

No documents were falsified it was a conversation about something that never happened.

Keep on graspin....

Any attempt to commit obstruction is still a crime you idiot. It doesn't have to be successful to be a crime lol.





Im tired of playing in the kiddy pool. Gotta go do adult shit now.

 

[xavier7995]

Paying attention is a issue for ya. No POTUS has the authority to tell the white house lawyer to falsify documents lol. I think all of us here know where your loyalties lie. Whats the point in the back and forth. To make yourself feel better lol.

My man! Shit, at least you understand whats going on.

Tbh, there has been enough public shit, as trumps dumb and cant shut up, that those are some solid obstruction of justice charges. That said...well is he obstructing a made up investigation. So far, that smoking gun has not been produced that shows trump actively working with russia. An argument can be made that the obstruction prevented Mueller from finding the truth, but since Mueller didnt really go that route and instead said his investigation was unimpeded...well damn.

Meh, what a weird world we live in.

 

[Mr D]

Your spewing the same talking points as Fox news. We know where you got that info lol. Why not wait for the IG report.. I dont see it the see why you idiots do. There's plenty of evidence but you refuse to except it. The biggest liar of all is Trumptard but still you refuse to admit that.







Any attempt to commit obstruction is still a crime you idiot. It doesn't have to be successful to be a crime lol.

I'm not sure...is that what Fox was saying when I was talking about the weaponization of Weissmann and DOJ against Aurther Anderson?

 

[packerfan79]

There you go again speaking out your xxx.. Im not OK with any of that BS.. Your doing what you do best making shit up about me. Im not a dem I'm not a liberal.. WTF how many times must I say that.. There's plenty of people that are not happy with Trumptard. This doesn't make us a dem or Lib. I think its pretty clear you cant retain info at all.

Or I see through your fake ass, "I can disavow Clinton, and Criticize Trump and everyone around him. It's all bullshit, we know you voted for the corruption Queen ( no offense Beta).

 

[armedoldhippy]

How does your pea brain equate disdain for the weaponization of intelligence and law enforcement with your false assumptions about those of us who require evidence before parroting known liars?

known liars? you mean, like trump?

 

[White Beard]

Soon you'll learn there was no appropriate investigative body. It's illegal to lie to the courts and Durham's interview with Misfud which gets to the basis for the investigation is going to show Trump was actually a crime victim. Crimes were committed by people in the FBI and DOJ, probably the CIA as well.

Look I get it you don't like Trump and it's understandable but you are smart enough to know this whole thing was complete bullshit.

Proof? That the investigation itself was bogus?
Something specific from the public record, please, and recent

I’m sure the IG report will be as earth-shaking as the last one...


Even if you can sufficiently taint the Mueller investigation to dismiss it, he remains in violation of his oath of office: he is defying the constitution, not defending it, is in violation of numerous court orders, and is forcing his regime into a confrontation between branches of government we may never recover from.

His problems will remain if Mueller and his report were to disappear tomorrow.

 

[rives]

Why would any of you be OK with Russians intervening in our elections?

I don't think that anyone is "ok" with that, but is both hypocritical and absurd to think that we should be immune to it when the US has routinely interfered in elections around the world for 100+ years.

Obama sent sent his election team to Israel along with $350,000 tax payer dollars to defeat Netanyahu, and the media bragged about it. HRC, and her State Department, reportedly spent $100's of millions of dollars on the Ukraine election and 2016 was Putin's revenge. Obama told the British that they would "go to the back of the line" as our trading partner if they passed Brexit. One study has shown that the US has intervened in 81 elections around the world between 1946 and 2000.

https://academic.oup.com/isq/article/60/2/189/1750842

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Of course it is not good to have foreign powers trying to influence elections - but yeah, its sheer hypocrisy to complain about it really - since western powers have been sticking their noses into the rest of the worlds election business - influencing, corrupting foreign political systems - and been sending the troops into where ever - for hundreds of years.


Best thing to do - is to try and prevent it.

 

[White Beard]

Been well aware of the bad things our nation does for a long time, been against them as long as I’ve known, will die still against them.

 

['Boogieman']

Everyone had their minds made up in 2016. Most conservatives I know only watched fox when a Trump rally was happening and that's about it. I really doubt the Russians influenced anybody. Many of the Bernie crowd didn't vote and I actually still know a few who still roll with Bernie (some like Elizabeth Warren) or bust.

 

[Cannavore]

Bernies gonna fuck trump raw