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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Jellyfish

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Awe, are you triggered again. I have dreams of my wages going up 4500 this year, 15k over the last 3 years, and my 401k being up 30%, oh wait that's not a dream, it's reality. Now, maybe you should get out there and get yours and stop worrying about why my life has improved, and yours hasn't. Or you can set your hair on fire and run around like a lunatic, again.
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Hope you have a great new year. I will.


Anybody reading this thread can see who's REALLY triggered. But I will say, your posts are some of the most passive-aggressive shit I've ever read.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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Another thing I used to ask people was " do you think it was wise for the US to fight the crown for its independence"?
I always got a resounding hell yes! (even though we went through a time of suffering)


Their answer has somewhat changed recently. California has changed a lot over the last decades. Now people say that they aren't so sure, because the crown was only taxing us at 2%. The California government taxes the crap out of us on everything now, and still are over 1 trillion$ in debt. I wonder how that happened?

Gee, I wonder if there is any connection between the Federal Reserve Bank and The Bank of England..
 

'Boogieman'

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I had a job.
It wasn’t working at my parents business.
That’s only the real world for some.


I don't make any more than anybody else in this field. I went to school for my plumbing license and hvac certification. Work was slow during Bush and Obama, I worked several jobs before getting a job on a maintenance team at a state prison for 6 years. Work has finally picked up but life is not as sweet as you think, a few bad policy changes and everything will go back to shit.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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I would expect someone somewhere to correct them.

Trump says stupid things about forest management and the Dem's say stupid things about the Fire behind the Smoke of the "Green New Deal".

A lot of what the Green New Deal is about is, reducing consumption.

In short, like the year 1900, with iPhones and flushing toilets.

Why would that be so expensive ?

In short their estimates of the cost of the GND Rev. 2019 were non-scientific Wild Ass Guesses. $9 Trillion ? For $9 Trillion you should get a country-wide mass transit system and aqueducts to do something logical with water ... where areas that flood share their excess with drought areas.


The health care part of the Green New Deal is separate from the environmental part.


( In short, like the year 1900, with iPhones and flushing toilets, and the world's worst & most expensive health care. )

and they're going to address health care, jobs, and climate change in one program ?

Maybe I DON'T want the drugs they're taking.


Blood tests for all the Dems that advocated the GND without going into realistic detail !!

Trump complained in a tweet about CAs forest management practices being responsible for the fires. He talked about clearing dead debris. "Rake the leaves," he said. Trump received a barrage of criticism for his tweet.

Gavin Newsom becomes governor of CA and his first order was to remove debris in the forest to help reduce wild fire risk. He was widely acclaimed for his courageous action. Lol.
 

bigtacofarmer

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I don't make any more than anybody else in this field. I went to school for my plumbing license and hvac certification. Work was slow during Bush and Obama, I worked several jobs before getting a job on a maintenance team at a state prison for 6 years. Work has finally picked up but life is not as sweet as you think, a few bad policy changes and everything will go back to shit.

The privatisation of our prison system is a huge mistake. Turning it into an industry made it easy to exploit cheap prison labor. The entire concept needs gutted and started over. No one should be turning a profit off inmate labor.
 

packerfan79

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The privatisation of our prison system is a huge mistake. Turning it into an industry made it easy to exploit cheap prison labor. The entire concept needs gutted and started over. No one should be turning a profit off inmate labor.

Agree completely. First time for everything.
 

Hammerhead

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Trump complained in a tweet about CAs forest management practices being responsible for the fires. He talked about clearing dead debris. "Rake the leaves," he said. Trump received a barrage of criticism for his tweet.

Gavin Newsom becomes governor of CA and his first order was to remove debris in the forest to help reduce wild fire risk. He was widely acclaimed for his courageous action. Lol.




Forest management budget was cut by 2b$. When you don't have the funds how can you do the job. Ca spent 111M$ since 2017. Half of which was spend on Fed lands. Ca Budget was paying to keep fed lands upkeep. It was the Fed gov that caused the fire issues here in Cali by slashing funds to rake those leaves.
 

Dr. Purpur

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Yep, the Cal state has been doing a great job of forest management for many years. That's why we don't have very many serious fires
 

h.h.

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I don't make any more than anybody else in this field. I went to school for my plumbing license and hvac certification. Work was slow during Bush and Obama, I worked several jobs before getting a job on a maintenance team at a state prison for 6 years. Work has finally picked up but life is not as sweet as you think, a few bad policy changes and everything will go back to shit.

We’re following the same failed republican policies that brought us down.
Reagan brought our wages to a standstill. Bush brought us a recession. Trump is adding trillions to our debt.

The economy was good under Clinton. Obama clumsily brought us out of recession.

A few bad policy changes.
What has trump done good? Put Jared in charge? Ivanka? Rudy? War criminals? Stormy?
Killed regulations preventing the bank s from fucking us again?
Lowered our standards?
Kept out the evil refuges?
No memes.What?
 

Zeez

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Trees, drought, and houses and you’re going to have fires. Stop building in the forest.

Seems to make sense that building codes would reflect the environment and require fire resistant materials on exterior walls and roofs. Those cedar shake roofs - what were they thinking?
 

packerfan79

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I think if you understood what I considered a functional society that is worthy of moving forward you would probably agree with me more often. You just doubt how I think we should get there.

I just have a problem with large central government, being the tool. I have no problem with individual communities choosing what their local government should look like. I still have the freedom to decide to live in a different community, if I don't like something. Or better yet, I can start my own community. If you want to have a commune more power to you. The smaller a government the greater the accountability to the constituents.
 

St. Phatty

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Seems to make sense that building codes would reflect the environment and require fire resistant materials on exterior walls and roofs. Those cedar shake roofs - what were they thinking?

One of the main things about California fires is the Demographics of the community.

I have retired firefighters living on both sides. No doctors though.

The area of Santa Rosa that burned, Fountaingrove near the old HP plant ... 1/6 doctors.

Based on aerial photos 1 week after the fire, the privacy bushes around the lawns of the houses didn't burn. It wasn't a wall of flames situation. Every house was salvageable, it just needed someone with a hose to deal with the small spot fires.

The culture seems to affect the response to the fire.

I'm setting up tanks of water with hoses primed because ... I'm scared of fire.

In California, the thinking seemed to be ... the firefighters/ government will protect us.

As far as my roof, it's the kind of shingle that is sort of tar with gray pebbles sort of. Not cedar.

Yes, cedar does burn doesn't it. I have a lukewarm Fatwa against cedar trees on my property, because one of the live green ones ignited with very minimal flame a few years ago.

I'm very impressed by plants that are highly flammable when they're totally green !
 

Hempy McNoodle

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We’re following the same failed republican policies that brought us down.
Reagan brought our wages to a standstill. Bush brought us a recession. Trump is adding trillions to our debt.

The economy was good under Clinton. Obama clumsily brought us out of recession.

A few bad policy changes.
What has trump done good? Put Jared in charge? Ivanka? Rudy? War criminals? Stormy?
Killed regulations preventing the bank s from fucking us again?
Lowered our standards?
Kept out the evil refuges?
No memes.What?

You do realize that the recession was caused by Bill Clinton's reversal of the Glas Steigel Act though, right?
 
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