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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Gypsy Nirvana

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Yes - 'tis true - we are all so lulled into what often is considered a false sense of security by our easy lives festooned with copious amounts of leisure and entertainment and potentially outrageous wealth - if we are to take billionaires and oligarchs as our role models - and try and follow them up that greasy money pole -

Most of us are peaceful loving people - to the point of wanting and needing that peace - even when they come a-knocking on our doors we go like lambs to the slaughter -


The government is what stands between us and them. We spend the time to complain, but we never fix it.
 

Microbeman

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Read more carefully, that money was not for a wall. It was for enhanced security measures such as drones and cameras. Which would be more taxpayer money wasted with zero results gained.

Hempy go to youtube and search for ways to breach Trumps wall. People cut through it like butter. I saw a little girl scale it in seconds. Drones, cameras and sensors are far superior to the stupid wall and more cost effective.
 

CaptainDankness

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I think we should end the Federal Governments control on states. If one state wants to legalize heroin, great!! I won't raise my kids there and the junkies will flock to that state. :) If Virginia wants to outlaw guns, they can! Just, they will receive no help from the National Guard.



California wants to end free speech give free healthcare and sex changes, sounds good to me, I live in New England. :)


If Texas wants to build a wall and California does not, sure why not?



Maybe keep the FBI, but they will only be used for interstate drugs, guns and criminals, but fed law is dead, no longer can the DEA arrest you for drugs unless you are caught bringing them to different states.



It would be a great way to keep everyone happy and prevent the left vs right hatred. Really there is a lot of talk about Civil War which will destroy this nation no matter who wins. Millions of people would die, children will get scurvy because some would try to make their enemies starve. The economy would definitely tank and Russia and China would be the new America only much worse. Really Civil War would be about the worst thing for the world, well besides a 3rd World War that would leave billions dead and the environment would be far worse than anything global warming could do.



At one point States rights trumped fed law, of course the first Civil War ended that tyrannically. Sure I'm glad slavery was abolished, but it started over tarrifs not slaves and it gave DC dominant control over states rights. Brought in fake money and all that bullshit. Is what it is, but I think George Washington was the man! We can do pretty good as the Slightly Divided States Of America. Lol, you like warm weather and your liberal California or conservative Florida or Texas. :) It's a big country, plenty of land, no reason to fight over it, nobody will win.



What did the Union really win? The North got fucked too, we're also controlled by DC.
 

h.h.

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I think we should end the Federal Governments control on states. If one state wants to legalize heroin, great!! I won't raise my kids there and the junkies will flock to that state. :) If Virginia wants to outlaw guns, they can! Just, they will receive no help from the National Guard.



California wants to end free speech give free healthcare and sex changes, sounds good to me, I live in New England. :)


If Texas wants to build a wall and California does not, sure why not?



Maybe keep the FBI, but they will only be used for interstate drugs, guns and criminals, but fed law is dead, no longer can the DEA arrest you for drugs unless you are caught bringing them to different states.



It would be a great way to keep everyone happy and prevent the left vs right hatred. Really there is a lot of talk about Civil War which will destroy this nation no matter who wins. Millions of people would die, children will get scurvy because some would try to make their enemies starve. The economy would definitely tank and Russia and China would be the new America only much worse. Really Civil War would be about the worst thing for the world, well besides a 3rd World War that would leave billions dead and the environment would be far worse than anything global warming could do.



At one point States rights trumped fed law, of course the first Civil War ended that tyrannically. Sure I'm glad slavery was abolished, but it started over tarrifs not slaves and it gave DC dominant control over states rights. Brought in fake money and all that bullshit. Is what it is, but I think George Washington was the man! We can do pretty good as the Slightly Divided States Of America. Lol, you like warm weather and your liberal California or conservative Florida or Texas. :) It's a big country, plenty of land, no reason to fight over it, nobody will win.



What did the Union really win? The North got fucked too, we're also controlled by DC.
You’re controlled by Kentucky.
 

Zeez

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The whole idea when they wrote the constitution was that it was our guys running the governmental show and 'owners' would be kept in check. As citizens and informed voters, we haven't done our part. Laziness, apathy and catering to stupidity have spoiled what was built. When I was a kid hospitals were built with tax dollars, our education and medical systems were the best in the world, Blue Cross was a coop and foreigners were invited to come and live the dream.

Now 'our guys' are owned by lobbyists and oligarch funded PACs. They enjoy legal insider trading to cash in on legislation they pass. Russians can pump cash into our elections through the NRA so long as LaPiere gets to fly around in private jets and live like a pig. With all this going on, nearly half the population think everything is just great and will never see the light.

Bernie 2020
 

armedoldhippy

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I'd rather imagine a world where the CIA weren't running a global narcotics, guns, terrorist and human trafficing trade. I don't want a wall for the sake of having a wall. But, until the deepstate is erradicated, we will need a wall. Also, if there were voter ID laws that would help.

so, you think the so-called "deep state" is trying to sneak over the border, and the wall is gonna keep them out? only reason for a wall is trumps ego. it will not do a damn thing but waste money. and there ARE voter ID laws. they just are not designed to keep those "uppity blacks" and "wetbacks" etc from voting. that is what they are aimed at, you are just too chickenshit to admit it. everyone else sees it whether you admit it or not. North Carolina and Georgia are currently tying themselves into fucking knots over imaginary "illegal voters". know how many they have found from last election? one...:laughing:
 

armedoldhippy

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Will the money be made up for with the new trade deal? That is the point. I don't know the answer. Do you?

not in our lifetimes. we are going belly-up broke, and you want to spend billions on a wall that any person of even average intelligence knows won't do what trump claims it will. :moon:
 

armedoldhippy

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USMCA also allows for legalized migrant workers (non-citizen) to unionize in order to bargain for better wages. This could end the exploitation of latino workers for good. The dems (confederates?) must really hate that.

union members usually (not always) lean toward democrats. it is the GOP that hates unions. rich people think they deserve all of the money. unions make damn sure workers get their share. i'm still leaning toward thinking you are 3 or thereabouts...:laughing:
 

hubcap

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anyone else getting sick of this thread being on top when they hit the "new posts" tab?


for sure, i'm no thought police and cherish freedom of speech, but, aren't there specific sites for stuff like this?


show me pics of your latest grow.
try out new strains and report on them here.
side-by-side tests of different lighting....soils....ferts....


just a thought. don't shoot. or give me the dreaded "shut up, boomer" immaturity.




-cap
 

armedoldhippy

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Who is the Federal Reserve? Who owns and controls it? Who does it belong to? Have they ever been audited? I need some names and faces, to form my opinions about things they report, and have none as of yet....

nobody owns it. it belongs to no one. and no president can control it. it was designed to be immune from political pressure. that is why trump sits up night bitching because no one will follow orders that he does not have the power to give. its members names are public, look them up. not our job to give you info that you will ignore or twist...:biggrin:
 
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