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kro-magnon

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exoticrobotic said:
I would take a bar of the hard Moroccan hash or a key of red seal like in the early 90s over any modern hash.

I find modern export hashes weaker and more one dimensional vs hash made 30 yrs ago.

Did the analysis in the 70s and 80s of 10%THC weed and hash differentiate between thc and thca?

I dont get the woah moments, the hilarious laughter, goofiness, sparkles, flying orbs and tracers off modern hash. It's become like a supermarket own brand copy.

It is quite possible maybe my contacts aren't as good as they used to be.

but In my opinion there is degradation everywhere except in my tent where there is huge ascent and upswing :love:

it is due to homogenisation of strains from legalisation, again due to demand outstripping supply.
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There is still some good resin circulating but it's lost in the sea of very generic ones, it's really a matter of contact as it has always been. I recently met someone who has access to some excellent moroccan hash, he knows the farm where it's done, it's a small circle.
 
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Elmer Bud said:
Traditional hash would have CBD .
Maybe not in Nepalese ? But like I said earlier and Wally commented on too . The hash made from modern strains is a lot stronger than trad hash . Also no cutting agents like some times found in imported hash .

No reason for showing the wallet . It was a spur of the moment pic . Not thinking about asthetics .
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Agree, the modern commercial quality is cleaner than old soap bars but back then there was other qualities available, not on the same scale than the soap bars but some were sold in pretty big quantities in France and Spain. In the 90's you could score a quality called aya(no idea how it's spelled), it was greasy, could bubble a bit and most important it was clean, no parafine, henna or camel shit in this grade, it was yellow in the plastic and when worked in your hands it quickly became darker and lost volume also. I don't know if you had this quality where you live, you're from Australia too?
 
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exoticrobotic said:
I would take a bar of the hard Moroccan hash or a key of red seal like in the early 90s over any modern hash.

I find modern export hashes weaker and more one dimensional vs hash made 30 yrs ago.

Did the analysis in the 70s and 80s of 10%THC weed and hash differentiate between thc and thca?

I dont get the woah moments, the hilarious laughter, goofiness, sparkles, flying orbs and tracers off modern hash. It's become like a supermarket own brand copy.

It is quite possible maybe my contacts aren't as good as they used to be.

but In my opinion there is degradation everywhere except in my tent where there is huge ascent and upswing :love:

it is due to homogenisation of strains from legalisation, again due to demand outstripping supply.
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I wouldn't mind being witness one day, to said upswing 😍 as we say in Spain, "cómo te cuidas" (you take good care of yourself)
 
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Elmer Bud said:
The trim usuall sits aside for a while .
Usually a month or two at least .
I don`t smoke the water hash much myself . I prefer dry sift . So that has to be very dry to process .

Hash in Thailand
In Pattaya at a weed shop I bought dry sift and water hash . I took that up to Nan and blew the locals minds .
They had never seen the blond dry sift before . We smoked that with weed in a bong made from a plastic bottle ...
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Dry sift don't need to dry indeed and having trim stored for a while before sieving helps a lot. Still you should try to age a piece of dry sift to see how it evolves, the morrocan farmers make some dry sift with plants stored for a while before sieving but they store the resin before selling or even smoking it themselves. The resin glands are evolving once they are detached from the rest of the plant, specially when they are broken and oils are oozing .
 
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kro-magnon said:
Dry sift don't need to dry indeed and having trim stored for a while before sieving helps a lot. Still you should try to age a piece of dry sift to see how it evolves, the morrocan farmers make some dry sift with plants stored for a while before sieving but they store the resin before selling or even smoking it themselves. The resin glands are evolving once they are detached from the rest of the plant, specially when they are broken and oils are oozing .
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I watched some Frenchy Canoli vids bro I`m an expert and connoisseur too LOL !!

I hear what you are saying . But for me it is by-product . I don`t want to keep large amounts of trim around stock piling . That would look very bad if I ever had to go to the courts .
It helps to pay for the trimmers and is only a limited market here . Young people don`t know what it is .

Re aging the hash . If I keep some for myself it will be old by the time I finish it . I have bits years old .
 
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Aged resin is nicer for me just like aged flowers. 3 months or so when it's not so harsh and raw is my preference. fresh is always fun but something about the smoothed out aged resin is nicer for me and my head and body.

I make outdoor hash from fresh frozen so I don't have to dry anything, indoors I typically only make it after pheno hunt and all discarded phenos are going to be washed after dried and tested, so maximum 1 month hanging.

I do like frenchy though, dry the resin, then making into temple balls style hash, works well for me.
 
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Elmer Bud said:
I watched some Frenchy Canoli vids bro I`m an expert and connoisseur too LOL !!

I hear what you are saying . But for me it is by-product . I don`t want to keep large amounts of trim around stock piling . That would look very bad if I ever had to go to the courts .
It helps to pay for the trimmers and is only a limited market here . Young people don`t know what it is .

Re aging the hash . If I keep some for myself it will be old by the time I finish it . I have bits years old .
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Frenchy had cool tutos but nothing better than going straight to the source in Morocco, I would like to go back there to see the new irrigated fields, it must look very different than what I've seen.
If you have some years old hash pieces you have witnessed first hand how it's changing with time, I wonder how long well stored hash can go before loosing quality. With flowers now I prefer to smoke fresh ones, they're the best for me around 1 month,2 months and after they lose something for me. Hash was created to store resin for longer period than flowers but it has a limit in tile as well I think, just didn't keep any long enough to know.
 
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kro-magnon said:
I wonder how long well stored hash can go before loosing quality. With flowers now I prefer to smoke fresh ones, they're the best for me around 1 month,2 months and after they lose something for me. Hash was created to store resin for longer period than flowers but it has a limit in tile as well I think, just didn't keep any long enough to know.
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Traditional brick from traditional southamerican sativas was good for 5 years at least, I dont know longer because by then we smoked it all. I know because we were smoking an old brick left that long in a friend´s house. Reports from Tangwena thread comment about brick reaching its top quality 2 years after bricking. If you keep them in those vacuum bags I guess it could last as long as the traditional hash

Old lebanese hash was good for 7 years as long as it was kept full in the sackcloth. Once you opened the sackcloth you needed to keep it wrapped in something or it losses power in a few weeks
How do I know 7 years?
On the Lebanon war in 1982 hash was the war trophy. All hashmasters were killed and plantations destroyed for many years. So all you had in Eastern and Northern Europe in the 80s was the lebanese hash produced until then. In Europe it lasted until 1990, some reports of people sourcing it until 1992. What I sourced by 1990 was degraded and not good as before

The picture posted below is from @mexcurandero420
Do you have more pictures of the old lebanese hash???

funkyhorse said:
Hi revverend
Thank you very much for clarifications
As happens with many other strains and seedbanks that carry fantasy names, this one should be called Sinai RSC to distinguish from real Sinai which was not CBD at all. I am not sure CBD strains are appropiate for camel riding and wandering around the desert.

When I was travelling to Sinai back then I used to slice a little finger of this stuff below which is aproximately a 50 gram of old lebanese hash. You know, bedouin families liked receiving visitors and liked even more when you brought something exotic like this and shared with them. They brought back to the table their best ganja which was not CBD at all.
You can see the shape of the pita/sack of lebanese hash 1980 picture courtesy of Mexcurandero instagram which was 200 grs on your left of this picture
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So because I am really interested to know what is behind the lebanese hash, I tried and grew Leb 27 last year
Very interesting strain. I think this is the weed of the old lebanese hash of the 70s-beginning 80s
It grows up to 90cms 1 mt tall. Similar to the plants they showed in all pictures and old films from Bekaa
This weed is highless. It has sativa terpenes but no high at all. I guess thats why they extracted the resin and made hash. I guess similar to what maroccan strains should be
I think this kind of weed for 21st century is obsolete. if it is for hash making, there are many strains available today giving you a lot more productivity with either sativa or indica terpenes. But something is never obsolete when it comes to preserving heritage or identity
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The posts about Leb27 from Hybrids from Hell are on the veteran side of the forum, I cant access my own posts. I got the strain from them just before they closed the seedbank

The harvest smells turned into sativa smells. Spicy. Excellent landrace resistance. And to add to the post, something is never obsolete when it had such good high and quality
And no, this shit wasnt mixed with henna nor camel shit. There are no camels in Lebanon, it is far from the desert. It was pure top quality hash

This post is from the Leb27 while growing it, smells changed at harvest time
Leb 27 keeps flowering under 14,5 hours of light
They dont bother for the white fly and they are not attractive to the local predator fauna so far and hopefully will keep this way until harvest. She seems to love the very high temperatures of 40C during daytime
Smells are moorish
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So I dont know if it is auto or not, there are discussions about it, but at lat 34S it behaved like auto and that was all it mattered to me. Zamal genetics at that lat was auto as well to my surprise.
Sinai RSC and Lebanon from Ace are both auto too and for me it is the same strain, one seedbank copied the other and the copycat is Angus this time for sure

@ledo , please some smoke report on that shit you just posted. I love it getting cured on vacuum bags.
21st century top notch cure, cant beat those bags man, weed or hash last very very long time
What do you prefer 90micron or 45 micron hash? I guess it should be strain dependant but it is just a guess

The 80s Lumbo from USC sold as Coljam is a hashplant on sativa frame. I didnt like the flower smoke fruity terpenes but the hash should be very interesting. Very curious about the hash of it
 
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funkyhorse said:
Traditional brick from traditional southamerican sativas was good for 5 years at least, I dont know longer because by then we smoked it all. I know because we were smoking an old brick left that long in a friend´s house. Reports from Tangwena thread comment about brick reaching its top quality 2 years after bricking. If you keep them in those vacuum bags I guess it could last as long as the traditional hash

Old lebanese hash was good for 7 years as long as it was kept full in the sackcloth. Once you opened the sackcloth you needed to keep it wrapped in something or it losses power in a few weeks
How do I know 7 years?
On the Lebanon war in 1982 hash was the war trophy. All hashmasters were killed and plantations destroyed for many years. So all you had in Eastern and Northern Europe in the 80s was the lebanese hash produced until then. In Europe it lasted until 1990, some reports of people sourcing it until 1992. What I sourced by 1990 was degraded and not good as before

The picture posted below is from @mexcurandero420
Do you have more pictures of the old lebanese hash???


The posts about Leb27 from Hybrids from Hell are on the veteran side of the forum, I cant access my own posts. I got the strain from them just before they closed the seedbank

The harvest smells turned into sativa smells. Spicy. Excellent landrace resistance. And to add to the post, something is never obsolete when it had such good high and quality
And no, this shit wasnt mixed with henna nor camel shit. There are no camels in Lebanon, it is far from the desert. It was pure top quality hash

This post is from the Leb27 while growing it, smells changed at harvest time


So I dont know if it is auto or not, there are discussions about it, but at lat 34S it behaved like auto and that was all it mattered to me. Zamal genetics at that lat was auto as well to my surprise.
Sinai RSC and Lebanon from Ace are both auto too and for me it is the same strain, one seedbank copied the other and the copycat is Angus this time for sure

@ledo , please some smoke report on that shit you just posted. I love it getting cured on vacuum bags.
21st century top notch cure, cant beat those bags man, weed or hash last very very long time
What do you prefer 90micron or 45 micron hash? I guess it should be strain dependant but it is just a guess

The 80s Lumbo from USC sold as Coljam is a hashplant on sativa frame. I didnt like the flower smoke fruity terpenes but the hash should be very interesting. Very curious about the hash of it
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It smokes Devine & stores indefinitely under vacuum; that bubble hash is all activated like Frenchy style but my own process, same end result. Some of those pucks are a couple Oz +, lots there in the pic… even after a few years I play around with it break open it looks & feels identical to day it was made & inside pic above… I’ve got videos of me playing with some but they are too large to upload… I use different sized test sieves dependent on plant so what micron I prefer is depending again on the input which for me is always flowers but lots of Sativa is better in the 45u and more hybrid or BLD the 90u, those being my catch sieves & filtering above them with other sizes

80’s Lumbo is hybrid WLD looking Sativa frame too but not from USC, drops sand off the plant so so easy
kro-magnon said:
Nice waffle, I"ll take one with chocolate please 😛 is it made with sativa only ? I wonder if the old lebanese genetics are still available to see what it would make in different soils and climates. Someone know what type of cannabis were the Lebanese strains ?
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some are pure NLD others hybrid & others WLD
 
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funkyhorse said:
Traditional brick from traditional southamerican sativas was good for 5 years at least, I dont know longer because by then we smoked it all. I know because we were smoking an old brick left that long in a friend´s house. Reports from Tangwena thread comment about brick reaching its top quality 2 years after bricking. If you keep them in those vacuum bags I guess it could last as long as the traditional hash

Old lebanese hash was good for 7 years as long as it was kept full in the sackcloth. Once you opened the sackcloth you needed to keep it wrapped in something or it losses power in a few weeks
How do I know 7 years?
On the Lebanon war in 1982 hash was the war trophy. All hashmasters were killed and plantations destroyed for many years. So all you had in Eastern and Northern Europe in the 80s was the lebanese hash produced until then. In Europe it lasted until 1990, some reports of people sourcing it until 1992. What I sourced by 1990 was degraded and not good as before

The picture posted below is from @mexcurandero420
Do you have more pictures of the old lebanese hash???


The posts about Leb27 from Hybrids from Hell are on the veteran side of the forum, I cant access my own posts. I got the strain from them just before they closed the seedbank

The harvest smells turned into sativa smells. Spicy. Excellent landrace resistance. And to add to the post, something is never obsolete when it had such good high and quality
And no, this shit wasnt mixed with henna nor camel shit. There are no camels in Lebanon, it is far from the desert. It was pure top quality hash

This post is from the Leb27 while growing it, smells changed at harvest time


So I dont know if it is auto or not, there are discussions about it, but at lat 34S it behaved like auto and that was all it mattered to me. Zamal genetics at that lat was auto as well to my surprise.
Sinai RSC and Lebanon from Ace are both auto too and for me it is the same strain, one seedbank copied the other and the copycat is Angus this time for sure

@ledo , please some smoke report on that shit you just posted. I love it getting cured on vacuum bags.
21st century top notch cure, cant beat those bags man, weed or hash last very very long time
What do you prefer 90micron or 45 micron hash? I guess it should be strain dependant but it is just a guess

The 80s Lumbo from USC sold as Coljam is a hashplant on sativa frame. I didnt like the flower smoke fruity terpenes but the hash should be very interesting. Very curious about the hash of it
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I didn't think about bricked weed it must change its ability to age certainly, same with cobbed one, I stock my flowers in glass jars without pressing them and stored this way i find the flowers are degrading very fast. How are done the weed bricks, is it pressed with a mechanical press like hash is done in Morocco?
About camel shit and other strange stuffs it was only in reference to low morrocan grade hash, never seen altered leb hash, it was always clean.
About the death of hash masters in 82, don't you think some can have taken their place to keep production going on?
 
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kro-magnon said:
I didn't think about bricked weed it must change its ability to age certainly, same with cobbed one, I stock my flowers in glass jars without pressing them and stored this way i find the flowers are degrading very fast. How are done the weed bricks, is it pressed with a mechanical press like hash is done in Morocco?
About camel shit and other strange stuffs it was only in reference to low morrocan grade hash, never seen altered leb hash, it was always clean.
About the death of hash masters in 82, don't you think some can have taken their place to keep production going on?
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Do you vacuum seal the jars you’re not going in/out of often? It would store your flowers much longer if you dedicate a longer term storage jar(s) you pull a vacuum on and then others you use regularly especially if you go in w proper moisture
 
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I really love lebanese...from 1979 to 1982 I had a hook up in Málaga that always had several qualities of moroccan and a couple of red leb.
Málaga is 1000 km from here!
Really nice blonde fresh moroccan pollen 170 pesetas/gram...1 € today...
Lebanese ...200 g. slabs pressed in cloth...more expensive ..250 pesetas/g...1.5 € today ...quite good.
Once I was allowed to see 20 kg. of the leb...piled in a corner...100 slabs!
Once in a while I could get better quality here but much more expensive.. 600 pesetas/g. In 1981!!
In 82/83 I used to buy fresh red leb and nigerian weed at the Melkweg in Amsterdam.
Last time I smoked good leb was New Year's Eve 1991 in Tarragona.
One of my wife's cousins gifted me 5 or 6 grams from his stash.It was very nice but not available anymore.
The good times !!

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