Thai weed from Thailand

[Genghis Kush.]

Plumeria alba is the national flower of Laos, where it is known under the local name "champa" or "dok champa". It is also used as the logo of Lao Airlines, the national airline of Laos.[citation needed]



Indian incenses scented with Plumeria rubra have "champa" in their names. For example, nag champa is an incense containing a fragrance combining plumeria and sandalwood.


Interestingly, Plumeria originates in the Americas but is thought to have been found depicted in Indian art by as early as the 2nd century bc

 

[willydread]

I don't like arijan honestly, but I didn't see much noise when Kanga and Nevil mixed the "Dutch" genetics with those old and precious Mullum lines... oh well...

Back to Thai weed,usually the Thai herb- that I have smoked - are electric, but sometimes they can give a "stupefy" effect (vaguely similar to the Colombians so to speak), I don't know if it's due to the "set & setting" or what, since I have found both effects in the same strain, sometimes you find yourself asking yourself "what was I doing?"

Oh,the one time I tried opium I was stoned for an eternity and ended up vomiting my soul out, not exactly a pleasant experience for me...

 

[BC LONE WOLF]

I would think that if in the 70s Northen Thailand was producing millions lbs of opium and exporting it and also drug type cannabis for export… why couldn’t they make a mix of both drugs to create something more powerful and addictive??

I can only speculate about it since I wasn’t even born yet, but facts are there. A militia controlled by a drug lord that moved tons of opium with the intention to get the world addicted so he can harvest money? It doesn’t seem to far from possible that they could in some way “enhance” the Thai sticks produced in the east.
I’ve smoked dry poppy milk with joints, it’s like hash once dry and it does smoke good in a joint, the effects are very intense and could go to psychedelic depth depending on the herb that is smoked. The aftermath of smoking opium joints is not pleasant all the secondary effects are there like feeling down, nausea, lethargy and laziness, no drive or motivation… it’s not something I would enjoy on a daily basis and can come with addiction if not checked.

Knowing the effects of opium very well by these militia drug lords, why not lace the exports with opium derivatives as they can cause addiction, that translates to more demand of products end up with more money.

Drug lords don’t care about shit, it’s money the ultimate goal by any means necessary.

Maybe not all export Thai stick had opium but some did based on the reports share here and what we can find online.
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Herb can be smoked with Datura or Salvia, dream herb, sacred tobacco, definitely opium is a known mix.
The possibility is not so far fetched

 

[BC LONE WOLF]

random but related to SEasia;

Philippines Duterte's first night in ICC custody is a pivotal moment for the court

Duterte's arrest sends a strong signal that even powerful individuals may be held accountable for their actions.

www.bbc.com

this is how the DEA operates, puts in a drug lord in place to destroy the supply chain and people along the way. The person in place kills people and destroys the gene pool, then later on gets fucked over by the same government that put him in place.

I'm happy to see this killer got to jail, his son as well. They did so much killing in the Philippines, all for nothing. I wouldn't be surprised the Philippines is working on a legal frame work for cannabis based on the American model (Thailand model). Duterte managed to make serious damage to the Filipino gene pool but did not get it all, still some Untouched un westernized old SEasian lines there.

 

[Lolo94]

Not always but it happened more than once, as I said in another post it depends of the settings where I smoke, in situations where I'm not comfortable enough it will make me paranoid but in the good conditions it will be a much more pleasing ride. But it's true some east asian sativas can quickly make me anxious as it's already in my nature. We all react differently because we don't all have the same mental state and even one person don't always have the same mental.

I agree. It definitely is situation dependent. The mild bouts of paranoia I described was amplified by being in a remote NW thai village and being told by the guide to bring in our shoes just in case the Burmese army/rebels crossed over. The Hawaiian based Thai I had was different. It was more trancey and more similar to the end of a mushroom trip, where you'd go in and out of reality. It was a real mindfuck and depending on your constitution was difficult for some people to handle.

 

[tstick]

Okay....First of all, Opiated Thai Sticks were real. They were a VERY real thing for certain. I know because I was there when my older brother's friend came back from the Peace Corps in 1975 and brought them back from Thailand on a cargo plane.

What was the taste like? The smoke was heavy, spicy and sexy smelling. The effect was almost immediate....sedative...almost out-of-body, floating, warm, blissful....literally melt into the couch kind of feeling.

How were they made? I was told that the process of making opium involves dissolving the sap in water and then boiling that water down into a paste. Somehow, the rinse-water they used to clean out the pots (called "first water") was collected and then somehow applied to the Thai weed....not sure if they were dipped, sprinkled, sprayed, etc.

Why? There are a couple different versions that I've heard....One is that opiated Thai Sticks were made to give to the weed-loving American GIs so that they would become lethargic in the field. and more easy to defeat in a battle. Another version was that they were made so that American GIs would be able to cope with the stresses of war/pain/etc. Another was that, by opiating the weed, unsuspecting people would become addicted to the opium. Maybe none of those stories are true....Maybe there is truth in all of them....? You'd probably need to talk with some Vietnam War veterans who were involved in that stuff, to get real clarity.

I've never smoked opium from an opium pipe, so I don't know how comparable it is to smoking an opiated Thai Stick. I've smoked plenty of non-opiated Thai sticks and loose Thai weed, too.....and it's also awesome....but, in no way comparable to an opiated Thai Stick.

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

I would think that if in the 70s Northen Thailand was producing millions lbs of opium and exporting it and also drug type cannabis for export… why couldn’t they make a mix of both drugs to create something more powerful and addictive??

I can only speculate about it since I wasn’t even born yet, but facts are there. A militia controlled by a drug lord that moved tons of opium with the intention to get the world addicted so he can harvest money? It doesn’t seem to far from possible that they could in some way “enhance” the Thai sticks produced in the east.
I’ve smoked dry poppy milk with joints, it’s like hash once dry and it does smoke good in a joint, the effects are very intense and could go to psychedelic depth depending on the herb that is smoked. The aftermath of smoking opium joints is not pleasant all the secondary effects are there like feeling down, nausea, lethargy and laziness, no drive or motivation… it’s not something I would enjoy on a daily basis and can come with addiction if not checked.

Knowing the effects of opium very well by these militia drug lords, why not lace the exports with opium derivatives as they can cause addiction, that translates to more demand of products end up with more money.

Drug lords don’t care about shit, it’s money the ultimate goal by any means necessary.

Maybe not all export Thai stick had opium but some did based on the reports share here and what we can find online.
——

Herb can be smoked with Datura or Salvia, dream herb, sacred tobacco, definitely opium is a known mix.
The possibility is not so far fetched

Opium came from burma .and most still does , Golden Triangle where Thailand Burma and Laos meet on the mehkong , its called Golden Triangle , because each country has it own currency ,to avoid the different currency exchange rates ect , They would trade gold for the opium

 

[Cvh]

Guys, if you want to talk about opiated Thai sticks then use the following thread and not this one. Thanks!

- Opiated Thai Sticks: Myth or Truth? -

Hi all, As the title says, I want to know if the stories about opiated Thai Sticks are true or not. Please share the info you have. Cheers. :)

www.icmag.com

 

[StickyBandit]

I would like to read more about Thai weed

 

[Elmer Bud]

Opium came from burma .and most still does , Golden Triangle where Thailand Burma and Laos meet on the mehkong , its called Golden Triangle , because each country has it own currency ,to avoid the different currency exchange rates ect , They would trade gold for the opium

 

[Donald Mallard]

I would like to read more about Thai weed

yep ,, personally , i think the subject has no place in this thread,
and kinda smears the history of thai sticks a bit ,
i dont believe there was ever any exported ,
nor is there any evidence there was,
and while in the north there are stories about adding it to cannabis ,
no one in their right mind would ruin thai sticks by adding something with a totally opposite affect and think they had done a good job , and not even charge extra for it ..

just stories from dreamers as the smugglers said,
no poor thai farmer would pay to add something to their sticks or do extra work to "enhance" when in fact it would detract ,
they needed nothing added anyhow , it was a perfect product , and opium is not a good drug like cannabis, so i dont think it has any place in this thread at all ,
next thing we will be talking about snorting cocaine off bar girls asses ???

 

[willydread]

bar girls

Some girls are nice...

I'm trying to get these little ones to survive the winter(north emisphere), now they smell like cat piss when rubbed...

 

[Donald Mallard]

Some girls are nice...

hahaha , of course ,
ive definitely spent time in the odd bar smashing a few pool balls into the pockets,
those girls are a lot better at it than one might think ,
dont let their lovely faces fool ya ...

 

[@hempy]

Where did you get that from, Willy, the flower looks more like what you would expect to see in hybrid.

 

[Chi13]

hahaha , of course ,
ive definitely spent time in the odd bar smashing a few pool balls into the pockets,
those girls are a lot better at it than one might think ,
dont let their lovely faces fool ya ...

I miss my pool playings days. We used to play for beers every Friday night, sometimes money. I love a game where you actually improve the more you drink and smoke.

 

[willydread]

Where did you get that from, Willy, the flower looks more like what you would expect to see in hybrid.

Sakon Nakhon.
It is one of the plants that survived the winter, (very late sowing) I had to make the seeds last fall but no males, no seeds....
Hybrids? I don't know if they were hybridized in Thailand...not here...
The same plants in autumn

And in summer with some sisters

The sister

In the absence of males I tried to invert a female and you won't believe it, I didn't get a single grain of pollen, just a few sterile male balls....
Life....

 

[Donald Mallard]

I miss my pool playings days. We used to play for beers every Friday night, sometimes money. I love a game where you actually improve the more you drink and smoke.

hahaha ,
happens for many, makes for some exciting games in the bars ,
some of those guys are actually professionals ,
after playing a while i checked it out and asked a few questions ,
always watch the guy who brings his own cue..

i ended up playing with a thai guy who would shoot with only one hand,
crazy as it seems , he never missed a shot that way ,
missed a few with both hands though , i beat him once , but not again ,, lol ...

i got a table for my shed and with a few mates who were practiced,
i played until i got fairly good at it ,, practice really helps heaps with that game,
a few girls from the strip i used to go to still remember me due to the pool playing...

 

[@hempy]

The veg shot looks right, but once it goes into flower it don't.

All that matters is how's it smoke.

 

[sativanese]

Might need to send thailand some Thia.

 

[sativanese]

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Where's this? Is it the agricultural museum?