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Donald Mallard

el duck
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Sorry, not sure how I got on that tangent. I guess it was the bit about how most Thai's are excited about the opportunities created by "legal" cannabis.
the folks making money from it seem to be ones that were not particularly struggling in the first place though ,
in the north east , where our favorite thai sticks hailed from,
things are still the same and no one is getting rich from legal cannabis.

the other sad part is plenty of westerners have jumped on the band wagon and are growing weed to supply shops , or hash , growing modern western varieties , and
complaining its too hot and they need to grow indoors with aircon ,
which of course increases their overheads , making the end price at the shop more for the consumers , who yes of course are also western tourists generally ...

The way it is certainly isnt ideal as i see it, but at least there is cannabis freedom , so its a start..
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
The cannabis law reform in Thailand started with medical, then the idea was for local people to grow and also be able to sell it back to supply the medical market so they could earn a living. The Thai government did not want foreign companies or start-ups having any involvement, that was a good idea.

People have got around that by partnering up with Thais, that's why people like Aryan are heavily invested there now.

I would love to see some of the old villages or areas where traditional Thai was grown, and the sticks made form co ops and re produce the old Thai sticks then brand it and then offer that to both the locals and tourists and even export it out as there is a huge market.
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
I'm not so sure that it would sell all that well. You have to remember that most "average" consumers are incredibly ignorant about cannabis in general. This phenomenon seems to be growing evermore with social media rotting everyone's brain, and promoting the new "shiny" thing.

I wish things weren't this way, but here we are.

A lot of people on forums like this may not have ever tried them, but they have all heard about the legendary Thai Sticks, and people have heard their Dads and Uncles and so on talk about them also it would have to be up there with some of the most famous of the old school cannabis.

But the Thai cannabis needs to live up to the quality of the past Thai if they hope to ever gain a foot hold in a market full of hyped lines.
 

Wolverine97

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A lot of people on forums like this may not have ever tried them, but they have all heard about the legendary Thai Sticks, and people have heard their Dads and Uncles and so on talk about them also it would have to be up there with some of the most famous of the old school cannabis.

But the Thai cannabis needs to live up to the quality of the past Thai if they hope to ever gain a foot hold in a market full of hyped lines.
IDK, the younger generations now are pretty oblivious to anything that isn't force fed to them by their preferred social media empire. I hope you're right.

A small example; my son, who has been around cannabis a fair amount since his teenage years. I kept the grows hidden from him until he was 15-16 or so, but after that we didn't hide too much from him. So he was exposed to a lot of cannabis conversation, but didn't pay much attention as I'm learning now. I've had so many conversations with him after he shows me something he got from whatever random place, where he's all impressed by all the wrong things. For a while his big thing was "the most dense" weed he could find. That's all he cared about, because somehow someone got it in his head that dense meant good. Then it went to "cookies" this, and cookie that.

This is from a kid who grew up in a house that mostly smokes extreme NLD types during the day, and Chems and Kushes after dark. I don't know that he even knows what a Thai Stick is...

I can get a bit cynical sometimes.
 

Chi13

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ICMag Donor
IDK, the younger generations now are pretty oblivious to anything that isn't force fed to them by their preferred social media empire. I hope you're right.

A small example; my son, who has been around cannabis a fair amount since his teenage years. I kept the grows hidden from him until he was 15-16 or so, but after that we didn't hide too much from him. So he was exposed to a lot of cannabis conversation, but didn't pay much attention as I'm learning now. I've had so many conversations with him after he shows me something he got from whatever random place, where he's all impressed by all the wrong things. For a while his big thing was "the most dense" weed he could find. That's all he cared about, because somehow someone got it in his head that dense meant good. Then it went to "cookies" this, and cookie that.

This is from a kid who grew up in a house that mostly smokes extreme NLD types during the day, and Chems and Kushes after dark. I don't know that he even knows what a Thai Stick is...

I can get a bit cynical sometimes.
I have a similar experience with my son. He is after a relaxing indica couchlock. I have given him some pretty good trippy sativas but he hates them. He's mostly given up now which seems to suit him.
 

FTL

Well-known member
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i dunno if that link works for everyone ,
but it gives an opportunity for some to at least be a part of some fun and perhaps judge some of the produce available ...
who is game??
I missed the first cup there , i was there (bangkok) on the day but hadnt planned to go to a cannabis cup...
The link got deleted.
Search the Prempavee insta ;)
 
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funkyhorse

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Sawadeekhap 🙏

If I start smoking this morning these hybrids or these indicas i get too lazy and I will not post

Many things to comment

Lindau, please check out your tent. You have in this pic a big ladyboy ready to pollinize the whole tent
I am not sure more seed is needed. If you are growing for smoke material, pull the ladyboy before it turns all your buds into seeds

I am in Isaan
Isaan is not arid, it is humid even in dry season. Dry season means no rain, this is how I understand it. Dry season doesnt mean arid nor desertic to me
Every single morning from 5am until 11am or more there is a big fog covering all of the trees. I am seeing this from Khon Kaen northwards. The soil is grasslands. In winter is cold, night and early morning temperatures are 10-15C. For me it is cold. The fog I am seeing has nothing to envy the Pampas. Climate and soil is excellent for raising cattle. There is a big beef industry developing or developed in Isaan.
Climate is not good for growing indicas at this time of the year in Isaan
This is Isaan at 630am. I am not sure how good is the picture but the fog covers all the trees. Visibility is affected by the fog
Isaan morning fog.jpeg


This is midday same spot
Isaan midday.jpeg


I have visited a few random dispensaries in Isaan. No sativas available at all. It is all indoor weed. If there is some outdoor, it is all indicas or hybrids
This is the closest I got to Thai Stick
thai stick store.jpeg

This Dante Inferno is a very popular strain in Thailand. I have seen it in quite a few dispensaries. It is indica and the dispensary owners and workers love indicas. They really love indicas. Their eyes get shiny when they talk about them, similar to what happens to me when I talk about Punto Rojo or Paraguayan.
I cant believe this shit mate
thai stick store (2).jpeg

The dispensary owners and workers dont know shit about sativas. They despise sativas. These are under 30 or under 40 kids who never smoked a real sativa, they dont know. What is left and what I tried is a disaster. Sativa knowledge is lost. The people running the sativas who are very enthusiastic lack knowledge. The people who grew the sativas 20 years ago and before suffered the war on drugs, weed was erradicated from Thailand many years and the knowledge got lost. They give sativas the same treatment as indicas
The result of it is weed fermenting in the jar. Whoever has played making fermented weed in different forms can detect this immediately. I doubt they can detect it
Sativas kept this way become hay or rope. No wonder the young kids trying rope have a very bad opinion of sativas. I would have a very bad opinion too

Dispensary prices in Isaan are much more friendly than in the south of the country. I have seen prices starting from 30baht gram. Quite a lot of choice from 30 to 100 baht gram. The most expensive I have seen so far in Isaan is 350baht which is 10 euros per gram. What they call sativa is all indoor hybrid, the one calling these hybrids "sativa" is the seedmaker according to his imagination because everything is indica hybrid indoor weed

I could link to a growshop selling weed starting for 1000baht an ounce. But it is commercial and it will get deleted as a previous link Donald posted for the landrace cup.
Mate, thanks for posting this, I would love to go, I am curious about what exactly they judge. If they are judging fresh harvest or what. I only judge high

@Donald Mallard
Wally, do you think it is possible to source weed from BLB? I would love to try
I grew your Laos and it didnt have any come down. I think the come down is a mix of things. I am not sure if overfertilizing is part of it. I am sure sativas getting some fermentation in the jar provoke hangover if they still have some high. I think weed dont give hangover, what gives the hangover is the handling and maybe the excess of fertilizers in the grow.

@Gypsy Nirvana
You are a canna businessman. Sativas are unwelcome in the dispensaries. I believe this is the case because no good sativas are around. I believe the best weed has been saved in some collector fridges. Whatever is around here seems to be degraded and overhybridized
So I ask you: how do you see the feasibilty of making a commercial project in Thailand for a sativa revival growing all the old seed weed left and make it under the Icmag umbrella? Because with these sativas there is not a single chance dispensaries will be ready to bring in a product which is hay and sell it for high price
I agree with many things you posted. I had the same experience as them when I came back to the west. I wanted to try all the famous and hyped western weed and this is what is going on in Thailand now.

One more thing for moderators: what can be posted and what cannot? The link Wally posted is commercial, it directed to the landrace grower website? What about the instagram post which is directing to the grower as well, why it stayed online and the other post got deleted?

What about making a Icmag heirloom farm in Thailand offering all the hyped sativa weed saved from all the collectors? Seeds in the fridge will not last long.
You guys are looking for ways of revenue for this site. I think a project of reviving old heirloom weed in Thailand with production to be sold wholesale in dispensaries plus shipping all over Thailand will give more revenue than advertising and charging for a tag to be able to see some hidden forum
I am willing to go all over Thailand and offer the heirloom weed to the dispensaries.
I dont know what you guys think but selected potent Tom Hill Haze should be a hit.
And what about a true potent Neville Haze? It is not sold in Europe nor anywhere. So here we got heirloom hybrids. And I would love to see available the old thai seed weed kept in your fridges.

I particularly am of the idea that making Malawi cobs and bringing them to the dispensaries should be a hit.
Thais will copy it if it is a success, no doubt about it.
But you will always remain the original and the source of the knowledge and the weed.
The only way the sativas will be back is if they are available again with good potency matching the best 3 hour high/come down from the indicas

Have a nice day everybody.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Sawadeekhap 🙏

If I start smoking this morning these hybrids or these indicas i get too lazy and I will not post

Many things to comment


Lindau, please check out your tent. You have in this pic a big ladyboy ready to pollinize the whole tent
I am not sure more seed is needed. If you are growing for smoke material, pull the ladyboy before it turns all your buds into seeds

I am in Isaan
Isaan is not arid, it is humid even in dry season. Dry season means no rain, this is how I understand it. Dry season doesnt mean arid nor desertic to me
Every single morning from 5am until 11am or more there is a big fog covering all of the trees. I am seeing this from Khon Kaen northwards. The soil is grasslands. In winter is cold, night and early morning temperatures are 10-15C. For me it is cold. The fog I am seeing has nothing to envy the Pampas. Climate and soil is excellent for raising cattle. There is a big beef industry developing or developed in Isaan.
Climate is not good for growing indicas at this time of the year in Isaan
This is Isaan at 630am. I am not sure how good is the picture but the fog covers all the trees. Visibility is affected by the fog
View attachment 19129062

This is midday same spot
View attachment 19129063

I have visited a few random dispensaries in Isaan. No sativas available at all. It is all indoor weed. If there is some outdoor, it is all indicas or hybrids
This is the closest I got to Thai Stick
View attachment 19129064
This Dante Inferno is a very popular strain in Thailand. I have seen it in quite a few dispensaries. It is indica and the dispensary owners and workers love indicas. They really love indicas. Their eyes get shiny when they talk about them, similar to what happens to me when I talk about Punto Rojo or Paraguayan.
I cant believe this shit mate
View attachment 19129065
The dispensary owners and workers dont know shit about sativas. They despise sativas. These are under 30 or under 40 kids who never smoked a real sativa, they dont know. What is left and what I tried is a disaster. Sativa knowledge is lost. The people running the sativas who are very enthusiastic lack knowledge. The people who grew the sativas 20 years ago and before suffered the war on drugs, weed was erradicated from Thailand many years and the knowledge got lost. They give sativas the same treatment as indicas
The result of it is weed fermenting in the jar. Whoever has played making fermented weed in different forms can detect this immediately. I doubt they can detect it
Sativas kept this way become hay or rope. No wonder the young kids trying rope have a very bad opinion of sativas. I would have a very bad opinion too

Dispensary prices in Isaan are much more friendly than in the south of the country. I have seen prices starting from 30baht gram. Quite a lot of choice from 30 to 100 baht gram. The most expensive I have seen so far in Isaan is 350baht which is 10 euros per gram. What they call sativa is all indoor hybrid, the one calling these hybrids "sativa" is the seedmaker according to his imagination because everything is indica hybrid indoor weed

I could link to a growshop selling weed starting for 1000baht an ounce. But it is commercial and it will get deleted as a previous link Donald posted for the landrace cup.
Mate, thanks for posting this, I would love to go, I am curious about what exactly they judge. If they are judging fresh harvest or what. I only judge high

@Donald Mallard
Wally, do you think it is possible to source weed from BLB? I would love to try
I grew your Laos and it didnt have any come down. I think the come down is a mix of things. I am not sure if overfertilizing is part of it. I am sure sativas getting some fermentation in the jar provoke hangover if they still have some high. I think weed dont give hangover, what gives the hangover is the handling and maybe the excess of fertilizers in the grow.

@Gypsy Nirvana
You are a canna businessman. Sativas are unwelcome in the dispensaries. I believe this is the case because no good sativas are around. I believe the best weed has been saved in some collector fridges. Whatever is around here seems to be degraded and overhybridized
So I ask you: how do you see the feasibilty of making a commercial project in Thailand for a sativa revival growing all the old seed weed left and make it under the Icmag umbrella? Because with these sativas there is not a single chance dispensaries will be ready to bring in a product which is hay and sell it for high price
I agree with many things you posted. I had the same experience as them when I came back to the west. I wanted to try all the famous and hyped western weed and this is what is going on in Thailand now.

One more thing for moderators: what can be posted and what cannot? The link Wally posted is commercial, it directed to the landrace grower website? What about the instagram post which is directing to the grower as well, why it stayed online and the other post got deleted?

What about making a Icmag heirloom farm in Thailand offering all the hyped sativa weed saved from all the collectors? Seeds in the fridge will not last long.
You guys are looking for ways of revenue for this site. I think a project of reviving old heirloom weed in Thailand with production to be sold wholesale in dispensaries plus shipping all over Thailand will give more revenue than advertising and charging for a tag to be able to see some hidden forum
I am willing to go all over Thailand and offer the heirloom weed to the dispensaries.
I dont know what you guys think but selected potent Tom Hill Haze should be a hit.
And what about a true potent Neville Haze? It is not sold in Europe nor anywhere. So here we got heirloom hybrids. And I would love to see available the old thai seed weed kept in your fridges.

I particularly am of the idea that making Malawi cobs and bringing them to the dispensaries should be a hit.
Thais will copy it if it is a success, no doubt about it.
But you will always remain the original and the source of the knowledge and the weed.
The only way the sativas will be back is if they are available again with good potency matching the best 3 hour high/come down from the indicas

Have a nice day everybody.
Fixed the morning pic for ya. Beautiful view ❤️👌
Isaan morning fog~2.jpeg

What's happening in the dispensaries in Thailand, is also happening in the coffeeshops in the Netherlands. It's all Californian now and the older varieties are gone. The younger generation wants what Snoop or any other celebrities are smoking, not the old gear from back in the days.
It would be great to see a heirloom dispensary rising from the ground, selling old gear from back in the days.

Screenshot_20250108_063657_Photos~2.jpg

Smoking it with an original bamboo Thai bong.
Screenshot_20250105_224750_Photos~2.jpg
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
I was reading a thread on a different forum from a guy in Thailand experiencing the same as you, Funkyhorse I think someone suggested he contacts Prempavee, and she's mailing him some sativa or sativa hybrid.

As far as I am a wear Prempavee farm is in Isan might be worth contacting her but you're going to need to speak some Thai.
 

Donald Mallard

el duck
Veteran
Wally, do you think it is possible to source weed from BLB? I would love to try
I grew your Laos and it didnt have any come down. I think the come down is a mix of things. I am not sure if overfertilizing is part of it. I am sure sativas getting some fermentation in the jar provoke hangover if they still have some high. I think weed dont give hangover, what gives the hangover is the handling and maybe the excess of fertilizers in the grow.
i wish i could send you in his direction man , i reckon you would have better luck sourcing something to your liking there for sure ,
but i havent heard from him in a long time ,, ive been to udon a few times but not gotten to see him either and i dont know where he lives , other than udon ...
and yea i found the same with that laos too , a very pleasant ride up to its peak ,
and a gentle ride back down, with no lag after ...
gee sounds like they need to put their weed in a fridge , or at least dry it properly before putting it in the jar ,, lol ..
its going to take them quite a while to figure things out i reckon man ..

i dont know where that prempavee meeting is , but suss it out if you can , certainly might be fun and perhaps you find something worth consuming to make the trip a little more worthwhile..
 
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Gypsy Nirvana

Recalcitrant Reprobate -
Administrator
Veteran
Sawadeekhap 🙏

If I start smoking this morning these hybrids or these indicas i get too lazy and I will not post

Many things to comment


Lindau, please check out your tent. You have in this pic a big ladyboy ready to pollinize the whole tent
I am not sure more seed is needed. If you are growing for smoke material, pull the ladyboy before it turns all your buds into seeds

I am in Isaan
Isaan is not arid, it is humid even in dry season. Dry season means no rain, this is how I understand it. Dry season doesnt mean arid nor desertic to me
Every single morning from 5am until 11am or more there is a big fog covering all of the trees. I am seeing this from Khon Kaen northwards. The soil is grasslands. In winter is cold, night and early morning temperatures are 10-15C. For me it is cold. The fog I am seeing has nothing to envy the Pampas. Climate and soil is excellent for raising cattle. There is a big beef industry developing or developed in Isaan.
Climate is not good for growing indicas at this time of the year in Isaan
This is Isaan at 630am. I am not sure how good is the picture but the fog covers all the trees. Visibility is affected by the fog
View attachment 19129062

This is midday same spot
View attachment 19129063

I have visited a few random dispensaries in Isaan. No sativas available at all. It is all indoor weed. If there is some outdoor, it is all indicas or hybrids
This is the closest I got to Thai Stick
View attachment 19129064
This Dante Inferno is a very popular strain in Thailand. I have seen it in quite a few dispensaries. It is indica and the dispensary owners and workers love indicas. They really love indicas. Their eyes get shiny when they talk about them, similar to what happens to me when I talk about Punto Rojo or Paraguayan.
I cant believe this shit mate
View attachment 19129065
The dispensary owners and workers dont know shit about sativas. They despise sativas. These are under 30 or under 40 kids who never smoked a real sativa, they dont know. What is left and what I tried is a disaster. Sativa knowledge is lost. The people running the sativas who are very enthusiastic lack knowledge. The people who grew the sativas 20 years ago and before suffered the war on drugs, weed was erradicated from Thailand many years and the knowledge got lost. They give sativas the same treatment as indicas
The result of it is weed fermenting in the jar. Whoever has played making fermented weed in different forms can detect this immediately. I doubt they can detect it
Sativas kept this way become hay or rope. No wonder the young kids trying rope have a very bad opinion of sativas. I would have a very bad opinion too

Dispensary prices in Isaan are much more friendly than in the south of the country. I have seen prices starting from 30baht gram. Quite a lot of choice from 30 to 100 baht gram. The most expensive I have seen so far in Isaan is 350baht which is 10 euros per gram. What they call sativa is all indoor hybrid, the one calling these hybrids "sativa" is the seedmaker according to his imagination because everything is indica hybrid indoor weed

I could link to a growshop selling weed starting for 1000baht an ounce. But it is commercial and it will get deleted as a previous link Donald posted for the landrace cup.
Mate, thanks for posting this, I would love to go, I am curious about what exactly they judge. If they are judging fresh harvest or what. I only judge high

@Donald Mallard
Wally, do you think it is possible to source weed from BLB? I would love to try
I grew your Laos and it didnt have any come down. I think the come down is a mix of things. I am not sure if overfertilizing is part of it. I am sure sativas getting some fermentation in the jar provoke hangover if they still have some high. I think weed dont give hangover, what gives the hangover is the handling and maybe the excess of fertilizers in the grow.

@Gypsy Nirvana
You are a canna businessman. Sativas are unwelcome in the dispensaries. I believe this is the case because no good sativas are around. I believe the best weed has been saved in some collector fridges. Whatever is around here seems to be degraded and overhybridized
So I ask you: how do you see the feasibilty of making a commercial project in Thailand for a sativa revival growing all the old seed weed left and make it under the Icmag umbrella? Because with these sativas there is not a single chance dispensaries will be ready to bring in a product which is hay and sell it for high price
I agree with many things you posted. I had the same experience as them when I came back to the west. I wanted to try all the famous and hyped western weed and this is what is going on in Thailand now.

One more thing for moderators: what can be posted and what cannot? The link Wally posted is commercial, it directed to the landrace grower website? What about the instagram post which is directing to the grower as well, why it stayed online and the other post got deleted?

What about making a Icmag heirloom farm in Thailand offering all the hyped sativa weed saved from all the collectors? Seeds in the fridge will not last long.
You guys are looking for ways of revenue for this site. I think a project of reviving old heirloom weed in Thailand with production to be sold wholesale in dispensaries plus shipping all over Thailand will give more revenue than advertising and charging for a tag to be able to see some hidden forum
I am willing to go all over Thailand and offer the heirloom weed to the dispensaries.
I dont know what you guys think but selected potent Tom Hill Haze should be a hit.
And what about a true potent Neville Haze? It is not sold in Europe nor anywhere. So here we got heirloom hybrids. And I would love to see available the old thai seed weed kept in your fridges.

I particularly am of the idea that making Malawi cobs and bringing them to the dispensaries should be a hit.
Thais will copy it if it is a success, no doubt about it.
But you will always remain the original and the source of the knowledge and the weed.
The only way the sativas will be back is if they are available again with good potency matching the best 3 hour high/come down from the indicas

Have a nice day everybody.
Nice dream to have a farm in Thailand - growing heirloom sativas - for preservation and distribution - but to get all of that paid for and set up - until it's productive and profitable in a growing Thai market - with all of the intricate difficulties and costs - licences and taxes it will present - looks like a challenge I'm not in good shape to attempt right now - without a sponsor and help from many others to achieve - it's a big project that would require an expert grower who can live and work in Thailand for the next few years - to bring the idea to fruition -

I'm kinda stuck in the UK with 2 teenage kids right now - needing my support for at least the next 3 years - before I could embark on such a venture - and by then I'd be 68 years old - and hopefully (depending on my health) - still up for visiting Thailand occasionally -

Times change - and the names of the 'erb changes with it - so it seems - and for many years I was a major cannabis seed distributor - noticing that over more than 20 years the vast majority of seeds sold were indica hybrids - most growers wanted plants that produced the highest yield in the shortest growing time - and most tokers were after the highest THC level Indicas - the same seems to apply in Thailand today -

Pure sativas are rare to find these days and seem to be only of value to a niche market of growers and tokers - sadly 😥
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