Thai A5 Haze limited edition

[dubi]

Bravo @Dentex it's amazing how well are you lately taming your sativas indoors, you make it look so easy!
Looks even ripening .... how many weeks is this second green beauty already into flowering ?

Thanks for joining in JustGrowing420 much appreciated! Both look very uniform at this point.
Excited to have the chance to follow their development!

 

[Dentex]

Thanks a lot @dubi ,I'm sure that if I had the luxury of keeping temps in control I would have done much better.

I decided to take her down just after 12 weeks in 11/13 .It smells mostly lemony,has incense notes too but not lemon incense like panama ,more real lemon than lemon cream.
A weird thing is the different shaped tops,while they all had the same amount of light.

So some pics from a week before harvest and some a couple days before.

 

[dubi]

Congrats on the harvest of your second Thai A5 Haze girl Dentex it's great to have the chance to harvest a tropical sativa hybrid of this kind after 'only' 12 weeks of flowering, that's faster than most Thai Chiang Mais and than A5 Haze original clone. Sounds like she has the classic lemony Thai terps with the signature incense from A5. Let's see how the terpene profile evolves through the curing, of course i'm curious about her effects as well.

 

[dubi]

STOCK ALERT ! Less than 10 Thai A5 Haze regular packs left on our website:

Thai A5 Haze Standard - New strains

A cross between an excellent quality Thai from the Golden Triangle and A5 Haze (NL # 5 x Haze A) from Nevil, where the Thai 'tunes' the psychoactivity of A5 Haze towards much cleaner, cerebral, euphoric and energetic effects.<br><br> It is a dominant T

www.aceseeds.org

this is a limited edition and the regular version won't happen again in years.

 

[Nannymouse]

With not much experience at all with indoor thais and hazes, i was curious as to what size containers that you suggest using for starting out the clones, and then what up-pot size...to finish them at about four feet tall, sog?

@dubi and @Dentex , or anyone?

 

[goingrey]

With not much experience at all with indoor thais and hazes, i was curious as to what size containers that you suggest using for starting out the clones, and then what up-pot size...to finish them at about four feet tall, sog?

@dubi and @Dentex , or anyone?

I wonder if they'll stay that short with just small containers even if you do the Pepsi challenge. Probably you'll have to train them somehow and in that case might as well give them proper root space, 3 gallons or so if soil.

 

[The Zientist]

With not much experience at all with indoor thais and hazes, i was curious as to what size containers that you suggest using for starting out the clones, and then what up-pot size...to finish them at about four feet tall, sog?

@dubi and @Dentex , or anyone?

I would say as low as 2-3L since 12/12 switch and until they are mostly done with the stretch, which can be until the 4th week and beyond. After this, transplanting them to the size you're comfortable with.

Hand picking small rooted clones and little to no veg helps in making them manageable as well.

It's a good rule of thumb for most stretchy equatorial varieties.

Hope that helps.

 

[dubi]

yep Nannymouse keep the indoor sativa from seed or from clone in a small pot (1-3 liters) and only transplant to 7 liter pots after early flowering stretching is over in order to keep it under 2 meter height.

 

[JustGrowing420]

A little update on my two thai x a5 with excessive N feeding

#1

#2

 

[dubi]

Wow JustGrowing420 both look wonderful, second one has strong Thai influence in the flowering structure, but obviously with more 'meat'. How are the aromas at this stage ?

 

[JustGrowing420]

Wow JustGrowing420 both look wonderful, second one has strong Thai influence in the flowering structure, but obviously with more 'meat'. How are the aromas at this stage ?

Thanks, don't put a lot of weight on the appearance of the second one as it was overfed and stretched.
As you've seen with my malawi, summer heat set in fast and caught me slacking, they started drinking much more but I didn't realise and adjust the nutrients accordingly, so that with a couple dry-outs and high heat messed with them.
It should be even meatier than that hehe

I will get a bit more intimate with them and get back to you on the aromas after lights on, they are at corners of the room and don't access them a lot.

 

[JustGrowing420]

#1 has a citric woody smell I recognize as a component of my latest flowering golden tiger also

#2 is seasonings/meaty

 

[Snipp]

@dubi I don't think I can order directly from Aceseeds ( switzerland not listed). Usually I order from Linda seeds.
Any other strain you would recommend to me? I want to start a long flowering one, but no dr Grinspoon again

 

[dubi]

Hi Snipp thanks for your interest! Yes, you can place an order directly on our website, kindly send me a private message or an email to: [email protected] and i will assist you with the recommendations.

 

[Snipp]

Thank you - will do so.
By the way - really impressing pictures and old races , will be difficult to choose.
Breeders pack also sounds good
This one espescially

Golden Tiger x Panama. Feminized seeds. ACE Seeds

Golden Tiger x Panama feminized. Golden Tiger seeds. Panama seeds. 100 % sativa seeds. semillas alto THC. very high THC seeds. super strong sativa seeds. super high yielding sativa seeds. Super sativa. Malawi Gold. Thai sativa. Panama Goddess.

www.aceseeds.org

 

[JustGrowing420]

An update on the two plants, a bit over 10 weeks now

1

2

 

[dubi]

love what i'm seeing after 10 weeks of flowering JustGrowing420 very well grown, they are loving your good cares and feeding.
Both look quite alike in phenotype-traits and in flower development. Anticipating a divine and exotic smoke, that's for sure.

 

[dubi]

Are the NL5 genes nearly totally recessive in the Thai-A5 cross? has it even been out long enough for any to F2 runs to be done outside of in-house testing? I can see some Keeners being midway though an F2 run if done with open pollination, however I'm assuming most are just rerunning selections from their first runs, yet to go to F2.

if so it could be a Very interesting breeding tool, I've i'm not mistaken thai x a5 is technically triple Thai.. The Thai in O haze is different than Thai in NL5 (assuming this to be, afghan {afghan x thai} atleast according to Maddfarmer) also Presuming Ace Chiang Mai Thai is also atleast slightly Different Thai than those previously mentioned.

What I want to know is if there are recessive potential for the Heavy effect of NL5 without the Dirty, stupefying effects due to additional Thai Input, would also love to see what an excellent male of That x A5 would do with an Old lavender or Blueberry/Temple Flo mother.

as a post scriptium. I am, chasing a effect from a Pink kush crossed to Ghost Train haze that seems to be long gone now, with less Stupefying effect. Basically looking for extreme THC with trace CBC and CBN also CBG for good measure LOL

Hi @Maple_Flail i replied to you in this thread since the question is about Thai A5 Haze.
Yes, as explained previously (in the strain descriptions too), the NL5 influence in the new A5 Haze hybrids released this year (Thai A5 Haze, Green Haze 19 A5, Purple Haze 23 A5) is nearly totally recessive and that was my goal: to mostly combine our best tropical sativas with Haze A male traits, and without NL5 influence (as much as possible).
So if you want more evident NL5 traits then you will need to make F2s of these, or easier: choose Killer A5 Haze.

Heavy and dirty, stupefying effects many times go together, especially in modern mostly indica hybrids and Western so called Kush strains.
There are not many indicas that can calm the mind and sedate the body without producing dirty, stupefying side effects.
Bubba Kush mother we have is one of the few modern indica plants that has such qualities.
Although imo better to look for it in traditional hashplant indica populations from Afghanistan and Pakistan.

A5 Haze mother displays imo mostly the Colombian side of Original Haze instead of the Thai side like C5 Haze does. Haze male A from Nevil may contained Thai, but its offspring i have studied show mostly American sativa traits. Some say NL5 had a bit of Thai (others say Hawaiian, Mexican, ....) difficult to know for sure, because the sativa part is quite recessive, NL5 is a quite hash plant indica type, despite it may contained a bit of sativa.

Thai A5 Haze crossed with a good selection of Flo sounds divine to me

 

[dubi]

Out of the two versions of Thai A5 you are offering, which version would you recommend to find the best of these clear, no-ceiling Thai-Haze examples? Feminized or Regular?

Hi @draztik i replied you here since it is more relevant for this thread. Both versions have the potential for that, it depends whether you want Thai A5 Haze males for breeding and making seeds (in that case choose regular), or if you just want to find a good Thai A5 Haze female (for growing or breeding), then maybe better the feminized version. While the regular version contains offspring from many different Thai males from different generations (therefore contains more variability). On the other hand, the fem version only contains offspring from 1:1 mating and from 1 Thai mother, a Thai mum that i have studied a lot in outcorsses (like in Thai Chi or Thai x Panama) and i like a lot the quality she passes to her offspring in outcrosses, yet without being very dominant, she let shine the (sativa) genetics of the other part of the hybrid, in this case Haze male A traits.

 

[dubi]

Thai A5 Haze regular version is sold out here at the source (i think Seedsman is the only retailer that may still have a few packs in stock).
Thai A5 haze feminized version is still available.