Test: Guava Gelato × (Z × ZiZi) F2
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I feel like it's the least I can do for this project. It's insane how much a slight variation in the environment can change the outcome of genetics, so I'm trying to record every detail I can.
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Pictures taken March 24th, 2024.
Temperature: 75°F
Relative Humidity: 74%
VPD: 0.43 (no clue where the humidity spike came from)
Light cycle: 18 hours on / 6 hours off
Light intensity: 50%
Distance from canopy: 16"
Plant height: 18"
Pot size: 2 gallon
Medium temperature: 72°F
Leaf surface temperature: 72°F
I realized I have weeks of photos on this grow and updated all my diaries on it, except this one.
I finally addressed most of the LST that needed to be done. I need to do a little more training, but not too much.
I haven't done a pre-flip defoliation, yet. That's going to happen this weekend, once everything is finished being tied down and trained.
I included a short video of the canopy right after I trained most of it.
Temperature: 75°F
Relative Humidity: 74%
VPD: 0.43 (no clue where the humidity spike came from)
Light cycle: 18 hours on / 6 hours off
Light intensity: 50%
Distance from canopy: 16"
Plant height: 18"
Pot size: 2 gallon
Medium temperature: 72°F
Leaf surface temperature: 72°F
I realized I have weeks of photos on this grow and updated all my diaries on it, except this one.
I finally addressed most of the LST that needed to be done. I need to do a little more training, but not too much.
I haven't done a pre-flip defoliation, yet. That's going to happen this weekend, once everything is finished being tied down and trained.
I included a short video of the canopy right after I trained most of it.
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Pictures taken April 2nd, 2024
Temperature: 73°F
Relative Humidity: 62%
VPD: 0.68
Light cycle: 18 hours on / 6 hours off
Light intensity: 50%
Distance from canopy: 24"
Plant height: 18"
Pot size: 1 gallon
Medium temperature: 72°F
Leaf surface temperature: 72°F
Turns out, the pots I've been using are one gallon, not two gallons.
Last day of consecutive spraying. I'm going to clean the plants with just water tomorrow, then drop a sulfur fogger in my room on Friday.
The flip will happen on Saturday.
Each plant is now fully bent and trained. If they stretch like the Mango Lassi I have in flower, this whole 2.5'×6'×5.5' closet will be full of nugs in a couple months.
The plants that are still kicking, and the photo order of the plants, is as follows:
#2
#3
#5
#6
#7
#8
#10
#11
#13
#14
#15
Each individual plant has two pictures of it, a front shot and a top shot.
Some of the plants were topped after I took photos, to help even out the canopy a little bit more.
I stuck all the low branches, that wouldn't make it up to the canopy, into my cloner. They'll end up being a second run after this one. I got at least one cut from each plant, except for one. I believe it was #14 or #15. I can't remember at the moment. I didn't get more than three cuts from any plant, so that tells me that lateral branch growth was pretty good.
Usually, I have to take 10 or so branches off of a plant when doing a final lollipop. I got my Chimera #3 mom ready to flip yesterday, as well. It's as old as these guava plants and I took 14 lower branches off that thing. I could've taken a few more.
Shit, I forgot to top feed them with some Craft Blend last night.
Temperature: 73°F
Relative Humidity: 62%
VPD: 0.68
Light cycle: 18 hours on / 6 hours off
Light intensity: 50%
Distance from canopy: 24"
Plant height: 18"
Pot size: 1 gallon
Medium temperature: 72°F
Leaf surface temperature: 72°F
Turns out, the pots I've been using are one gallon, not two gallons.
Last day of consecutive spraying. I'm going to clean the plants with just water tomorrow, then drop a sulfur fogger in my room on Friday.
The flip will happen on Saturday.
Each plant is now fully bent and trained. If they stretch like the Mango Lassi I have in flower, this whole 2.5'×6'×5.5' closet will be full of nugs in a couple months.
The plants that are still kicking, and the photo order of the plants, is as follows:
#2
#3
#5
#6
#7
#8
#10
#11
#13
#14
#15
Each individual plant has two pictures of it, a front shot and a top shot.
Some of the plants were topped after I took photos, to help even out the canopy a little bit more.
I stuck all the low branches, that wouldn't make it up to the canopy, into my cloner. They'll end up being a second run after this one. I got at least one cut from each plant, except for one. I believe it was #14 or #15. I can't remember at the moment. I didn't get more than three cuts from any plant, so that tells me that lateral branch growth was pretty good.
Usually, I have to take 10 or so branches off of a plant when doing a final lollipop. I got my Chimera #3 mom ready to flip yesterday, as well. It's as old as these guava plants and I took 14 lower branches off that thing. I could've taken a few more.
Shit, I forgot to top feed them with some Craft Blend last night.
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Photos taken April 9th, 2024
I looked at the canopy today and instantly knew, it's time to flip. I didn't end up flipping on Saturday, due to the canopy still looking a little thin. I must have defoliated a little more than needed. No worries, just set me back a few days, is all.
Top fed with BuildASoil Craft Blend and watered with some homemade CalMag. I'm going to start giving the plants different teas, in order to maintain nutrient uptake until the craft Blend becomes soluble. I'll post the recipes, mainly so I remember which ones I used and when.
I'm going to use juices that are mainly for veg throughout the first few weeks, to help with their stretch. Then, week 4 or so, I'm going to focus more on fermented fruit juices and add a little more octane with BuildASoil's BuildABloom weeks 5+.
So, this might seem like a weird observation because most people would just take the win, but .... I'm pretty sure most, if not all, of these plants are female. All of the plants seem to have elongated bracts. I'll know for sure in a week or so.
I looked at the canopy today and instantly knew, it's time to flip. I didn't end up flipping on Saturday, due to the canopy still looking a little thin. I must have defoliated a little more than needed. No worries, just set me back a few days, is all.
Top fed with BuildASoil Craft Blend and watered with some homemade CalMag. I'm going to start giving the plants different teas, in order to maintain nutrient uptake until the craft Blend becomes soluble. I'll post the recipes, mainly so I remember which ones I used and when.
I'm going to use juices that are mainly for veg throughout the first few weeks, to help with their stretch. Then, week 4 or so, I'm going to focus more on fermented fruit juices and add a little more octane with BuildASoil's BuildABloom weeks 5+.
So, this might seem like a weird observation because most people would just take the win, but .... I'm pretty sure most, if not all, of these plants are female. All of the plants seem to have elongated bracts. I'll know for sure in a week or so.
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Photos taken April 21st, 2024
The males finally showed up to the party. If I were to keep one, it would be #8, personally.
Something weird has been going on with the fresh growth of some of the plants, as you can tell, for the past couple weeks. I thought it might be too much light, making the leaves mutate. So, I dialed the lights back about 10%.
I also thought it might be pH, so I checked runoff. It hit between 6.6-7.1. that wasn't the problem.
I checked the bottoms of pots and didn't see any root tips popping out. I dug into each pot to see if I could see or smell any signs of root rot. There were no signs of it.
There are no pests that chomp on leaves. I made sure to check every plant with a 30×-60× jeweler's loupe.
I'm at a loss, unfortunately. I've never dealt with this before. But, I'm determined to figure it out.
The males finally showed up to the party. If I were to keep one, it would be #8, personally.
Something weird has been going on with the fresh growth of some of the plants, as you can tell, for the past couple weeks. I thought it might be too much light, making the leaves mutate. So, I dialed the lights back about 10%.
I also thought it might be pH, so I checked runoff. It hit between 6.6-7.1. that wasn't the problem.
I checked the bottoms of pots and didn't see any root tips popping out. I dug into each pot to see if I could see or smell any signs of root rot. There were no signs of it.
There are no pests that chomp on leaves. I made sure to check every plant with a 30×-60× jeweler's loupe.
I'm at a loss, unfortunately. I've never dealt with this before. But, I'm determined to figure it out.
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Photos taken May 9th
Since this is a test run, I've decided to see how these plants deal with being monster-cropped. Stress tests for the win!
They are dealing with 40°F nights and 70°F days quite well. I'm surprised the temperature swings haven't been messing with them throughout the week.
No signs of powdery mildew so far, but that takes a few weeks to dig in and show up.
Since this is a test run, I've decided to see how these plants deal with being monster-cropped. Stress tests for the win!
They are dealing with 40°F nights and 70°F days quite well. I'm surprised the temperature swings haven't been messing with them throughout the week.
No signs of powdery mildew so far, but that takes a few weeks to dig in and show up.
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5/29/2024:
These girls have been outside since the first week of May.
Removed a lot of the buds, yesterday. The plants finally started shooting ones and showing signs of re-veg.
Holes are being prepped and should be done by the weekend.
No signs of nanners, so far.
Average day temperature: 73°F
Average night temperature: 58°F
#3 smells like lemon-lime soda. Sprite is what instantly popped into my head.
#7 has a sweet but sour funk to it. It has the best smell, in my opinion.
#10 smells like Hawaiian punch.
#13 still has a piney perfume to it, but with a hint of sweetness, now.
These girls have been outside since the first week of May.
Removed a lot of the buds, yesterday. The plants finally started shooting ones and showing signs of re-veg.
Holes are being prepped and should be done by the weekend.
No signs of nanners, so far.
Average day temperature: 73°F
Average night temperature: 58°F
#3 smells like lemon-lime soda. Sprite is what instantly popped into my head.
#7 has a sweet but sour funk to it. It has the best smell, in my opinion.
#10 smells like Hawaiian punch.
#13 still has a piney perfume to it, but with a hint of sweetness, now.
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Not resistant to powdery mildew, but don't seem to mind it much. Environment will be listed below.
There's one pheno that doesn't have any WPM on it and it's also the furthest along in flower.
My guess is that they should be finished by the middle of October, which is pushing it in this climate ( zone 5A, 42.3°Lat).
Still no signs of intersex traits, yet. I've put these things through the ringer, too: Cold environment sprouting
Cold medium for the first few weeks
High temperature stress
Aphid infestation
High stress training and defoliation
Light cycle stress
Spider mites
Moved to outdoors
Bud strip
Mid-flower re-veg
I don't think there's any more stressful situations I can throw at them, so I'm going to let them finish out in peace.
I haven't really been feeding or watering them. I really like to see I'm probably going to start watering them with BuildASoil's BuildABloom once a week, though.
Environmental average through August:
83° F
64% Relative Humidity
~1" rain per day
There's one pheno that doesn't have any WPM on it and it's also the furthest along in flower.
My guess is that they should be finished by the middle of October, which is pushing it in this climate ( zone 5A, 42.3°Lat).
Still no signs of intersex traits, yet. I've put these things through the ringer, too: Cold environment sprouting
Cold medium for the first few weeks
High temperature stress
Aphid infestation
High stress training and defoliation
Light cycle stress
Spider mites
Moved to outdoors
Bud strip
Mid-flower re-veg
I don't think there's any more stressful situations I can throw at them, so I'm going to let them finish out in peace.
I haven't really been feeding or watering them. I really like to see I'm probably going to start watering them with BuildASoil's BuildABloom once a week, though.
Environmental average through August:
83° F
64% Relative Humidity
~1" rain per day
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Photos taken September 20th:
Pheno #3 (sprite)
Most drought resistant, for sure.
Has some powdery mildew, unfortunately. But, it doesn't seem to bother her much.
A little on the leafy side, but the smell is worth the extra trim time.
Pheno #3 (sprite)
Most drought resistant, for sure.
Has some powdery mildew, unfortunately. But, it doesn't seem to bother her much.
A little on the leafy side, but the smell is worth the extra trim time.
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Photos taken September 20th
Pheno #7 (Sour funky floral perfume)
Structure wise, this plant is my favorite. It filled out real nice and didn't have much die off during this past two weeks drought.
It has a fantastic funk to it that has a hint of lingering pine.
It's unfortunate that this is the one that is most prone to powdery mildew.
Pheno #7 (Sour funky floral perfume)
Structure wise, this plant is my favorite. It filled out real nice and didn't have much die off during this past two weeks drought.
It has a fantastic funk to it that has a hint of lingering pine.
It's unfortunate that this is the one that is most prone to powdery mildew.
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Photos taken September 20th
Pheno #10
This one was least drought tolerant. It had a lot of lower stuff dry out and die off.
It wasn't very resilient to powdery mildew, either. So, health wise, this one was the worst, in my opinion.
Tall, lanky structure. It didn't bush near as much as the other phenotypes.
Pheno #10
This one was least drought tolerant. It had a lot of lower stuff dry out and die off.
It wasn't very resilient to powdery mildew, either. So, health wise, this one was the worst, in my opinion.
Tall, lanky structure. It didn't bush near as much as the other phenotypes.
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Photos taken September 20th
Pheno #13
Doing well, health wise. Slightly susceptible to powdery mildew.
Has a decent amount of lower foliage due off during the 2 week drought, but not too bad.
Very pine, floral nose to it.
Pheno #13
Doing well, health wise. Slightly susceptible to powdery mildew.
Has a decent amount of lower foliage due off during the 2 week drought, but not too bad.
Very pine, floral nose to it.
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Photos taken September 20th
Pheno # 5
This was the smallest female, but she caught up on the end.
It's hard to describe the smell. Piney, floral, with lime and some raspberry?
Had some lower foliage die back during the drought, but not much. It was pretty strong throughout those weeks.
Unfortunately, it was a little too late to get a close-up of a couple nuggets.
Pheno # 5
This was the smallest female, but she caught up on the end.
It's hard to describe the smell. Piney, floral, with lime and some raspberry?
Had some lower foliage die back during the drought, but not much. It was pretty strong throughout those weeks.
Unfortunately, it was a little too late to get a close-up of a couple nuggets.
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