Temporary 50 amp Outlet?

[Floridian]

.To be clear Wendell meant #4 AWG not 4 conductor wire and your main lug panel is to code.If you go with a 50 A you can use #6 AWG

 

[BlackMarketMic]

If you're not the owner of the house and there are other people/ children living in the same building you should not do it. Max 50 amp breaker for a #6 awg or your wire will melt before the breaker trips. Swaping a breaker in a 120/240 v live panel is easy if you do it on regular basis such as electricians but regular joes tend to get nervous and sweaty when doing this you're more likely to do a false manoeuvre when nervous... Use a good flashlight , use insulated screwdrivers so if you make the contact between the busbar and the side of the metal panel you won't be horribly glued to whatever your holding on as you act as the conductor between 100+ amps and the well grounded panel. Be careful don't put your face too close and take your time you should be ok. I'd recommend a heavy duty #6 awg tech wire a 6/3 it has 2 live wire plus neutral, each conductor is braided copper, it has heavy duty insulation, an armored metal armour and an extra layer of insulation on top lf the armour, it's rated 600v, it can be moved installed and re installed many times, it can be buried or go under water. You'll need to go to an electrical equipment supplier to obtain this.. And you'll need to get the appropriate tech connectors also from this electrical supplier and skin this wire appropriately in order for the connectors to be installed correctly.. This type of wire will run anything and is the best type of wire for temporary installation that require big power.

 

[Drop That Sound]

If you're not the owner of the house and there are other people/ children living in the same building you should not do it. Max 50 amp breaker for a #6 awg or your wire will melt before the breaker trips. Swaping a breaker in a 120/240 v live panel is easy if you do it on regular basis such as electricians but regular joes tend to get nervous and sweaty when doing this you're more likely to do a false manoeuvre when nervous... Use a good flashlight , use insulated screwdrivers so if you make the contact between the busbar and the side of the metal panel you won't be horribly glued to whatever your holding on as you act as the conductor between 100+ amps and the well grounded panel. Be careful don't put your face too close and take your time you should be ok. I'd recommend a heavy duty #6 awg tech wire a 6/3 it has 2 live wire plus neutral, each conductor is braided copper, it has heavy duty insulation, an armored metal armour and an extra layer of insulation on top lf the armour, it's rated 600v, it can be moved installed and re installed many times, it can be buried or go under water. You'll need to go to an electrical equipment supplier to obtain this.. And you'll need to get the appropriate tech connectors also from this electrical supplier and skin this wire appropriately in order for the connectors to be installed correctly.. This type of wire will run anything and is the best type of wire for temporary installation that require big power.

Ya man he is running on a split bus system from the 70's, probably with all the same wiring from the 70's too, that was already maxed out with 6 breakers ("6 throw rule"). I wouldn't even wanna live in that house with kid's the way it was (after reading about split bus) let alone running a 50 amp grow as well.

Most families if they knew better would opt to change the entire electrical system, or never bought a house with that outdated but grandfathered in type unless they took 10,000 or more of the asking price to fix it. There is a reason the codes have changed so much since then.

He rents though and I'm sure the land lord will never spend a years worth of rent to ensure the safety of the residents lol.

 

[MJPassion]

This was an interesting thread...

One rule for working w live electricity should be known by humanity...
Only work with one hand in/around the live wires. Working with both hands could be potentially deadly.
If current flows from one hand to the other, across your heart, the 50Hz frequency could literally stop your heart.
By using only one hand in a live circut you bypass the heart because current flows to ground (your feet).

 

[Drop That Sound]

This was an interesting thread...

One rule for working w live electricity should be known by humanity...
Only work with one hand in/around the live wires. Working with both hands could be potentially deadly.
If current flows from one hand to the other, across your heart, the 50Hz frequency could literally stop your heart.
By using only one hand in a live circut you bypass the heart because current flows to ground (your feet).

Good call, hope he didn't get shocked

 

[EastCoast710]

like I said.. I just bought all the shit. having my boy install it.. who is a licensed electrician..

and ya believe me.. if it was up to me id update the entire house.. but its not going to happen.. I'm hoping that by next year I'm in my own house instead.. they offered to sell me this house. buttttttt it could use an entire remodeling job.. that's why I said fuck it and grow here..

honestly. this was like a we lost our place we had before and had to move within a week. about 10 days.. so I had fucking no time to find a great place to live. it was like.. o they will let us rent their house with our dog and reptiles .. and they don't care that I work under the table.. so fuck it.. grab it.. after getting in we realized the basement was full of cat piss. so we had to rip down soo much drywall and wood paneling.. and I had the landlord pissed at me .. I'm like do you smell the piss in the shed? that's the drywall that I took out of the basement. and hes then was like oo k. I'm like jesus Christ you told me to treat it like its MY house.. so I figured. id clean it properly.. paint the rooms properly.. I grow in the basement.. and its cleaner then it was when he lived here.. and ontop of that. I can get it into a rented uhaul in 12 hours. and have a completely empty basement cleaned up and bleached.. and they don't even know I grow here..

buttttt the electrical is shit. so the only way to upgrade to a grow id like.. I either 1 have to move or get an extension cord for my dryer.. or do what I'm doing.. and just disconnecting basement heat.. and setting up a 60amp or 50amp setup.. ill run 2 flower rooms flip flop.. and a veg room. cant wait to get out of these tents.