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Team Microbe steps into Guerrilla Country...
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solofoe
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This seems to be the only guerilla thread going atm and a good one at that.... all these med grows are putting me to shame I wish I had half the resources they have.... I'm making due and hopefully will have something to show for it but I wanted to thank you for keeping the guerilla spirit alive
GEMiNi GENETiCS
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What up bro .... I posted yesterday but it didn't go through apparently so I'll make this one quick
I don't see the safety of my plants stems as a point to go cheap....I do a basic 2' cage of chicken wire with bramble wrapping the base of the cage. The bird netting is so I can weave the plants branches in to help with wind/weather to keep em together and helps counter balance heavy colas from flopping too much
No need to sift it...if clover is growing you should be fine to mix but just remember its easier to add more later than take some out later so I'd still mix it ½ and top dress a bit in July.
Organics brotha.... you don't flush. That's an indoor chemical fert mentality.....you would be doing your soil and the microbes a disservice by flushing. Organics are amazing for many reasons.....pure water grows are capable, no flush, better flavor and aromas, organics work with the soil and plant to make them healthy and even fight off pests and disease and its how nature intended.
Swamp tubes look to be awesome....I'd leave a little room at the top to top dress and add a little extra at end of season for next year.
I don't see the safety of my plants stems as a point to go cheap....I do a basic 2' cage of chicken wire with bramble wrapping the base of the cage. The bird netting is so I can weave the plants branches in to help with wind/weather to keep em together and helps counter balance heavy colas from flopping too much
No need to sift it...if clover is growing you should be fine to mix but just remember its easier to add more later than take some out later so I'd still mix it ½ and top dress a bit in July.
Organics brotha.... you don't flush. That's an indoor chemical fert mentality.....you would be doing your soil and the microbes a disservice by flushing. Organics are amazing for many reasons.....pure water grows are capable, no flush, better flavor and aromas, organics work with the soil and plant to make them healthy and even fight off pests and disease and its how nature intended.
Swamp tubes look to be awesome....I'd leave a little room at the top to top dress and add a little extra at end of season for next year.
Hit that site with shovel in hand bro!!!
I use extra wide Gorilla Tape and tape over the edges so they can't rip. I'm trying to figure out a way to add some padding or something because hauling 70lb on your shoulders without it for 10+ miles leaves some pretty gnarly bruises I'm finding
Thanks man! But it's not - J.V. and Gemini are killin it too... go check their threads out after this
Gotta keep that spirit alive man, it took digging up Silverback's threads after hearing about his death for me to get back in the spirit. I felt a slightly Silverback presence pushing me ever since then.. it's pretty real.
We deserve this plant, and as long as we're not harming animals or the ecosystem we have the morals and right to grow guerrilla
What up bro .... I posted yesterday but it didn't go through apparently so I'll make this one quick
I don't see the safety of my plants stems as a point to go cheap....I do a basic 2' cage of chicken wire with bramble wrapping the base of the cage. The bird netting is so I can weave the plants branches in to help with wind/weather to keep em together and helps counter balance heavy colas from flopping too much
No need to sift it...if clover is growing you should be fine to mix but just remember its easier to add more later than take some out later so I'd still mix it ½ and top dress a bit in July.
Organics brotha.... you don't flush. That's an indoor chemical fert mentality.....you would be doing your soil and the microbes a disservice by flushing. Organics are amazing for many reasons.....pure water grows are capable, no flush, better flavor and aromas, organics work with the soil and plant to make them healthy and even fight off pests and disease and its how nature intended.
Swamp tubes look to be awesome....I'd leave a little room at the top to top dress and add a little extra at end of season for next year.
Nice, I like the bramble man. I'll go easy on the poop too... I only hauled out a 5 gal bucket's worth for 4 bales of soil so I may have to grab some more even lol
And don't get me wrong I know about flushing being for hydro only, I should've said leeching I guess... I've had some organic bud that wasn't finished and the guanos and amendments were still breaking down. It tasted really harsh, I'm just trying to prevent that from happening with the Espoma but like you said... go 1/2 strength THEN topdress, so I'll go that route I think. I hit up my spot tonight but there were railroad workers working on a train at the track where I enter. So frustrating! The other night while I was making the bale drops a train rolled through super slow and sketched me out as well
Good times.
Already got a new one up and out of the swamp but might open the other up as fall back option, in case of ........ 
Have you thought about using a backpack, just keep the superstructure (base, back padding and padded straps - all attached of course) and use a few belt rigs with 'adjusting buckles' to fix any size pack you need on it? They come in green ...
Have you thought about using a backpack, just keep the superstructure (base, back padding and padded straps - all attached of course) and use a few belt rigs with 'adjusting buckles' to fix any size pack you need on it? They come in green ...
My plots have the same access as you, 30km down a railway . Perfect spot completely surrounded by cliffs, blackberry ,sting nettle a spring but goats are a major issue so i have to fence everything , a 30km each way bike ride carrying about 50kg of wire plus everything including soil because my plots sit on hard clay did not sound appealing so ive built a railbike with a platform and a 20hp lawnmower engine and a go kart torque converter cost me $150. First trip will be about 35 bags of 40ltr soil and it does aprox 60kph empty
I would love to be walking the tracks, smoking a fatty, and here you come on a DIY railbike system with a platform with bags of soil and ammendments. LOFL!
"HotDamn! Its the Soggy Bottom Boyz!"
"I HAVE...NO NAME."
"HotDamn! Its the Soggy Bottom Boyz!"
"I HAVE...NO NAME."
Bro. Can you please private message me plans for that rail bike?! I was honestly fantasizing about one the night I went to bed after my first haul... it was ten 70lb bales for 2 miles of tracks. Stepping on each track is half the work IMO, this train car would be so epic and would help me make the spot I'm at SO much better if I had more soil! Was about to drop $150 on a trail cam tonight but I'll wait a week and see if you see this before then
hahaha I'd be lying if I said I didn't wonder if I could do that very same thing by having a buddy catch the bales at the other end of the track when the train comes by... they go slow in my area.
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Quick update:
Quick update:
So I've been getting everything that I've needed for the summer this month and I just wanted to share how I water in case of emergencies during mid-summer. I don't have a water source above my patch so gravity-fed is out of the question, but I'm not really running a hell of a lot of plants so these two 6 gallon jugs will do the trick:
As you can tell, my area has a lot of tall grass so I mimicked that on my cans. First camo job, so don't judge lol. The ergonomics on these cans blow buckets out of the water. No leg clashing, no holding your arms out awkwardly to prevent it from happening either. Plus, they hold an extra gallon compared to 5 gals and feel lighter IMO. You can find em in any store that has a camping section, as these are made for water storage.
Besides that I've been in the process of moving drop-sites to their final locations. I always get behind because I don't take into account failed attempts at accessing my patches, for example too much traffic or rail road workers working on a train.... or a train stopped with it's lights on. All of these scenarios mean a night off because my patches are an hour away from me... so that gas and that time I don't get back. What I've been doing lately is parking in a public parking lot near my patches, getting out with my bike, then continuing on to my entree point. This way, my car isn't in the vicinity and can't be connected with my grow. I can't do this at all of my locations, and even the ones I do it at I'm looking at a 5 mile bike ride up and down hills. Today I was planning on moving bales but the ride was so brutal I couldn't since I needed energy to get home. For bale transfers the car is a must, but every other visit will be on the bike. I learned this from Brown Dirt Warrior... guys a goon but he's got a good head on his shoulders and knows some good pointers if you give him the time of day.
So, a trail cam is on the to-get list so I can really monitor locations and traffic with their times of arrival and departure. I'd highly recommend one to anyone that is working with locations where they feel the need for a monitoring system... the one I'm getting is $130 and has a wide angle lens. Really gotta look at the specs and see which ones fit your situation though, I almost paid for a lot of tech I didn't need when I was at the store looking at them in person. All we need is a cam that doesn't emit sound or light, and has night shot with a decent range. Most rips happen at night, plus monitoring mysterious animals that are lingering isn't a bad idea because then you know how to combat that problem more accurately. I think that's it for tonight...
Oh yeah, and I grabbed a fuckin sweet machete. Gotta show it off before I sign off, she's got a hacking blade that I'm dying to try out on some small trees lol
Until next time...
Quick update:
So I've been getting everything that I've needed for the summer this month and I just wanted to share how I water in case of emergencies during mid-summer. I don't have a water source above my patch so gravity-fed is out of the question, but I'm not really running a hell of a lot of plants so these two 6 gallon jugs will do the trick:
As you can tell, my area has a lot of tall grass so I mimicked that on my cans. First camo job, so don't judge lol. The ergonomics on these cans blow buckets out of the water. No leg clashing, no holding your arms out awkwardly to prevent it from happening either. Plus, they hold an extra gallon compared to 5 gals and feel lighter IMO. You can find em in any store that has a camping section, as these are made for water storage.
Besides that I've been in the process of moving drop-sites to their final locations. I always get behind because I don't take into account failed attempts at accessing my patches, for example too much traffic or rail road workers working on a train.... or a train stopped with it's lights on. All of these scenarios mean a night off because my patches are an hour away from me... so that gas and that time I don't get back. What I've been doing lately is parking in a public parking lot near my patches, getting out with my bike, then continuing on to my entree point. This way, my car isn't in the vicinity and can't be connected with my grow. I can't do this at all of my locations, and even the ones I do it at I'm looking at a 5 mile bike ride up and down hills. Today I was planning on moving bales but the ride was so brutal I couldn't since I needed energy to get home. For bale transfers the car is a must, but every other visit will be on the bike. I learned this from Brown Dirt Warrior... guys a goon but he's got a good head on his shoulders and knows some good pointers if you give him the time of day.
So, a trail cam is on the to-get list so I can really monitor locations and traffic with their times of arrival and departure. I'd highly recommend one to anyone that is working with locations where they feel the need for a monitoring system... the one I'm getting is $130 and has a wide angle lens. Really gotta look at the specs and see which ones fit your situation though, I almost paid for a lot of tech I didn't need when I was at the store looking at them in person. All we need is a cam that doesn't emit sound or light, and has night shot with a decent range. Most rips happen at night, plus monitoring mysterious animals that are lingering isn't a bad idea because then you know how to combat that problem more accurately. I think that's it for tonight...
Oh yeah, and I grabbed a fuckin sweet machete. Gotta show it off before I sign off, she's got a hacking blade that I'm dying to try out on some small trees lol
Until next time...
very nice camo paint job bro! it seem's you are well prepared for this season. Godspeed!
pretty cool to see another machete disciple, every serious guerillia grower needs one
your's look like serious quality, was it very expensive?
Thanks man!
It's the perfect tool for the tool box, isn't it?? I like yours, I wish I had something that size with a saw. I have an identical model but it's about half the size, so I got this one last week. It set me back 45 bucks
GEMiNi GENETiCS
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Rugged location so far down the tracks! What do you do if a trains coming? Dump the bale and just chill or do you duck out of sight as well?
Yes machetes are vitally important...paid about the same for my Gerber 20" with saw blades on back side ....works fast too!
I gotcha with the leeching.....no remedy for me...I just figure it'll leech to the ground and the canna roots will find it....it could have been the guano....it seems to affect plants flavor depending how well its broken down in the soil. Manure is where its at....nothing better than some ganja grown in a pile of cow shit.
Yes machetes are vitally important...paid about the same for my Gerber 20" with saw blades on back side ....works fast too!
I gotcha with the leeching.....no remedy for me...I just figure it'll leech to the ground and the canna roots will find it....it could have been the guano....it seems to affect plants flavor depending how well its broken down in the soil. Manure is where its at....nothing better than some ganja grown in a pile of cow shit.
I usually keep 2 machete's, a saw for small branches, a mini-axe, and a full size axe in my trunk at all times. I always cut tree's into a point so it looks like beavers did it. Cow shit is good, imho I think it brings a more skunky flavor to the pot. I like to broadcast osmocote like rice at a wedding. That way it's not to strong at any given spot, and it helps the surrounding vegetation grow in, which helps to cover/cut down on trails around the plants. Sorry just rambling here......first hits of the day was a bowl of white lemon with exodus kush bho on it.
Dug a hole the day before yesterday that holds a 30 gal. tote with some room to spare. Gonna be dropping a single green crack into it. Took down some small cedars that were in the way. So now the tote will get sunlight from 7 am until about 5 pm, should make for a nice plant. Had one there a couple years ago that gave me 1 1/2 pounds, shooting for 2 or more from this years plant. Just finishing up putting everything into it's final home these next few days. Shit is looking proper already.
Anybody ever grow cannatonic outside? I have like 6 of em' already out, wondering how long they take to finish? Found a true guerilla strain in some Greenhouse seeds. Lemon skunk to be exact. Just likes plain water with no food, and really does well letting it dry out in between waterings. Just like the fucking ronco, set it and forget it. Well enough for now, it's off to the races. Raining out, so it's a perfect time to be out in the woods/swamp. Nobody wants to be out in the rain, except for me, I love it!!!!
Dug a hole the day before yesterday that holds a 30 gal. tote with some room to spare. Gonna be dropping a single green crack into it. Took down some small cedars that were in the way. So now the tote will get sunlight from 7 am until about 5 pm, should make for a nice plant. Had one there a couple years ago that gave me 1 1/2 pounds, shooting for 2 or more from this years plant. Just finishing up putting everything into it's final home these next few days. Shit is looking proper already.
Anybody ever grow cannatonic outside? I have like 6 of em' already out, wondering how long they take to finish? Found a true guerilla strain in some Greenhouse seeds. Lemon skunk to be exact. Just likes plain water with no food, and really does well letting it dry out in between waterings. Just like the fucking ronco, set it and forget it. Well enough for now, it's off to the races. Raining out, so it's a perfect time to be out in the woods/swamp. Nobody wants to be out in the rain, except for me, I love it!!!!
Thanks man! I did not expect such a work out to be honest lol... walking on foot is so much easier than hauling a 70 lb bale on your back while trying to walk on the planks of the track without twisting an ankle. I move like a turtle I feel like, but I just keep my head down and don't look up until I see the marker I put down next to the track. I find that if I look up to see how much further, it feels like a lot longer of a walk.
It's funny you say that, because I heard a train's horn on my last bale haul tonight at that location. I didn't know how close it was but I had a 1/2 mile to go so I was jogging with that fuckin thing on my back! I almost passed out before I got to my entry point but I had just missed it. It was way down the track but it was pitch black out and my headlamp would've caught his eye I bet. During previous visits I've seen workers hit the track while I was in the bush and I came back with shovel in hand to find out they had work to do right by my vehicle.... I had to run back in the bush and hide it before they spotted me. I came out of the woods with my alibi on (bird watching hat & DSLR camera) and struck up a convo with one of the guys to make it seem normal. I just said there's a lot of waterfowl to take shots of (because there is) and showed the guy a shot I took of a blue bird. He didn't give a shit but pretended like he did... but all that mattered to me was that the patch wasn't compromised. That silly get-up already paid off! I still have to go back out and find the shovel... that is a must before even transplanting next week. It's under a bush bordering the swamp.. that's all I know lol
I still have yet to test my Gerber out man... gettin ancy! They're def a must in the tool kit... you're right about that. And the guano composting note you made makes sense... whens the latest you would ever top dress with guano in flowering? Week 4 or so?
Hahahhaha I laughed out loud at the Osmocote line man, good shit
I did that last year, not sure if it was you or someone else who recommended that but it did make a big difference on the surrounding foliage. I like your tool kit! It sounds complete... mine needs some work that's for sure.
What's your method with your holes? It sounds like you dig down, then put the tote in place of the soil? If that's right, is that to keep roots cool and happy? Or to wick up water?
I was torn between going straight in the ground or to do totes again... I might try Brown Dirt's method with lining the holes with contractor bags and poking holes in the bottoms for drainage. He said it produces somethign called "forcing" and it sends the plants into flowering faster and more vigorously when they're root bound like that compared to free roam underground. I wonder how true that is... and how the trash bags would work. What do you think? (I'm planting in wetlands with my water table just a few feet down)
& it sounds like you're taking a much more modest approach this season man, I like it. More passion will be in that one plant than in all of your girls last year, that's for sure. I can't believe you pull 2 per plant. I'm in the north east so our veg is only a month, or 2 if you cold frame during the month of May. How long is your veg period normally? Last year I only pulled 4oz per plant but water was limited... and plants were stressed a lil but this year we're on track finally. Give me motivation to pull a pound per plant! hahaha
@teammicrobe- For my holes I dig big enough for whatever container I'm using. Then the tote/pail goes in the hole with a 50/50 mix of happy frog and promix bx/sunshine#4. In the swamp if I hit the water table while digging or if the hole fills in after I dig, I put some sticks either facing up or across the hole. This is so that the container doesn't sit directly in water. I have 1 1/2 inch holes In the bottoms of the containers with 1 inch holes around the sides about an inch up from the bottom. By doing this, If for some reason I can't go for a few days, the roots will go thru the holes and search that water out. Because most of the roots are not directly in water and only a few. It makes it so the plant doesn't drown.
I tie my plants down big time. I start tying them down the first day they are in their final container. Then every single time I visit them from then on, I re-adjust previous lst's , and tie down new upward growth. I try and make my plants as wide as possible. I'm pretty sure this is part of the reason for my increased yields. If it's a first year in a spot I try and go at different times of the day for the first few weeks. Then any trees that get in the suns way are chopped down, or if they are too big I limb the shit out of them. I usually try and put everything as south facing as I can so they get maximum exposure. Wally world has compasses for like $5. I always try to keep one in my "work" bookbag.
I would say that container size ,lots of sunlight, and lots of water, are the reason I can pull lber's and better. It also helps if you can visit them everyday or every other day. I was going thru like 100-150 gals of water every other day last year. Plus I super cropped every single plant multiple times. Then I clocked in just over 8 hrs. crawling on my hands and knees cleaning the bottoms of every single plant. For anybody new reading this thread, my thread from last year was called "guerilla in the swamp '13' , check it out!!
That's all I can type for now. Gotta leave to go to "work'. Today's the day, I put a green crack in one of my spray painted camo 30 gal totes. Plus I have lots of lst'ing to do. Any more questions are welcome If I missed anything.
I tie my plants down big time. I start tying them down the first day they are in their final container. Then every single time I visit them from then on, I re-adjust previous lst's , and tie down new upward growth. I try and make my plants as wide as possible. I'm pretty sure this is part of the reason for my increased yields. If it's a first year in a spot I try and go at different times of the day for the first few weeks. Then any trees that get in the suns way are chopped down, or if they are too big I limb the shit out of them. I usually try and put everything as south facing as I can so they get maximum exposure. Wally world has compasses for like $5. I always try to keep one in my "work" bookbag.
I would say that container size ,lots of sunlight, and lots of water, are the reason I can pull lber's and better. It also helps if you can visit them everyday or every other day. I was going thru like 100-150 gals of water every other day last year. Plus I super cropped every single plant multiple times. Then I clocked in just over 8 hrs. crawling on my hands and knees cleaning the bottoms of every single plant. For anybody new reading this thread, my thread from last year was called "guerilla in the swamp '13' , check it out!!
That's all I can type for now. Gotta leave to go to "work'. Today's the day, I put a green crack in one of my spray painted camo 30 gal totes. Plus I have lots of lst'ing to do. Any more questions are welcome If I missed anything.
fatsack79
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Hell yeah... I love guerilla style grow"n... Been do'n it since I was jr n high school n '96, and will do it until I die... My purpose and my passion is with Mary-Jane, my first and only true love... I have learned a lot from I.C. (thank u Gypsy and Staff and all my fellow growers) I enjoy reading ur experiences Team Microbe, u remind me of myself when I started... So if u don't mind imma pull me up a set down over here n the blue grass, blaze one up, and watch the show... Looks like it's gonna b a pretty good one... Take it easy... -F.S
Thanks for the advice man, it's much appreciated. I'm gonna try the sticks in the hole under the soil for drainage, that sounds like a really good idea. You say you were going through 100-150 gals every other day?! Were you hand watering? Or how did that work?
A full days work spent on cleaning up legs... I love it. That's what it takes to pull out extraordinary crops... that good ole' TLC. I'm gonna LST like you mention as well, I saw a guy pull 5 p's from a plant outdoors that was LST really well. Makes sense when it comes to light penetration. I've got a migraine right now so questions aren't registering tonight but this week don't be surprised if there are a few more down below
Respect Fatsack. It's a sudden wall that hits you when you find your purpose... isn't it? I found mine in growing as well man... and am a man of principal so guerrilla goes hand-in-hand with that mind set. I can tell we're a lot alike already
Thanks for the vibes brother, updates will be comin soon
Keep on keepin on...........
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UPDATE:
Things are goin smoothly over here folks! Went out today and did some more work... took the camera with me this time though to show you what I've been up to. Right now I'm putting the game plan together as to where I'll be planting what and hauling the rest of the bales into my patches. I've devised a rail cart to help me transfer supplies too... compared to hauling each 75 lb bale on my back for the 3 mile hike into the swamp. That shit is brutal and way harder than I thought it would be... but I've got a plan!!!
I'm going to do what this kid in the video below does but instead of skateboards I'm going to get 2x4's and then screw the trucks onto those boards which will be connected in the middle by a platform for the bales to sit on.
Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRh2CC1ThQ8
It's ghetto but it's a lot lighter than steel rail wheels and any sort of legit rail cart. I'd have to hide it better than a few 2x4's and it'd take longer to remove from the tracks if I were to hear a train in the distance. I'll keep you guys updated on what exactly I'll be making this week, but I've got the rail dimensions written down so it's a simple trip to the skate shop for tiny trucks and Home Depot for some wood!
UPDATE:
Things are goin smoothly over here folks! Went out today and did some more work... took the camera with me this time though to show you what I've been up to. Right now I'm putting the game plan together as to where I'll be planting what and hauling the rest of the bales into my patches. I've devised a rail cart to help me transfer supplies too... compared to hauling each 75 lb bale on my back for the 3 mile hike into the swamp. That shit is brutal and way harder than I thought it would be... but I've got a plan!!!
I'm going to do what this kid in the video below does but instead of skateboards I'm going to get 2x4's and then screw the trucks onto those boards which will be connected in the middle by a platform for the bales to sit on.
Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRh2CC1ThQ8
It's ghetto but it's a lot lighter than steel rail wheels and any sort of legit rail cart. I'd have to hide it better than a few 2x4's and it'd take longer to remove from the tracks if I were to hear a train in the distance. I'll keep you guys updated on what exactly I'll be making this week, but I've got the rail dimensions written down so it's a simple trip to the skate shop for tiny trucks and Home Depot for some wood!
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