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Taskenti

Carraxe

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Some males from that last batch. They were very short of space and they had no ventilation, and also they were cut in half in order to make a strong clone from the tip. So that's why they look a little weird. I'll use their pollen soon.

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Carraxe

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I've put the three males I selected (I discarded one) in a tent with the half a dozen plants I want to pollinate, in a separate room of my main grow. I don't want any of this pollen to travel anywhere else, but I'm sure the separated spaces and carbon filters will prevent unwanted pollinations.

Today I saw the first open male flowers and I used it over some young buds. To guarantee all the males are used to pollinate, and not just the fastest, I'll get rid of the fastest one in a couple of days. Then the other ones, that are a little slower, will have their chance.

In a couple of weeks all the three pollen donors will be used and I will freeze some pollen for the future, like pollinating the stinky Barney's White Widow XXL and others I'm testing. After that, I'm doing a totally different pollination and I don't want any risk of Taskenti pollen flying around, so I'll have to wash everything to avoid risks.

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Carraxe

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I thought I had replied earlier. I think part of the harshness of taskenti comes from it's thick cuticle structure. It produces thick heavy smoke. I dry sifted much of my seed run and didn't get that bite. I'm not sure what batch mine were from they were a reproduction from an old member but I didn't see much variation in the 30 or so I grew.

My meaning of soft is not loud. I prefer loud in general. I freeze most of my bud to keep it loud. I found the smells to be creamy, earth, metallic but not in a pronounced outward way. The taskenti definitely muted the sherbet in these few I grew but did add some pleasant feel good effects and duration to the effects. It smokes like a rich tobacco reminds me of a Bubba cross. I am tempted to start some Burmese x taskenti to see if it tames that loud.

Ive been thinking in what you said, because it is interesting.

I believe you can be right on the harshness and part of it can be related to a stronger cell structure in this strain. But I'm also pretty sure that there is a part of the effect that is due to the resin composition. I mean, the cough you get is the cough you get from strong cannabis, the one that hits you from the lung several seconds after smoking, without itching or any other warning. I believe it is caused by the effect of the cannabinoids in the bronchial tube, since it has bronchodilating effect.

This kind of cough doesn't remember (to me) the cough of these weeds, that make you cough because it itches in your throat while the smoke passes through. That's something that should never happen with good weed, just with bad one, bad cured, wet, whatever.

It remembers me the first time I was in Amsterdam and smoked a real joint. My god, I started coughing after a couple of hits, I coughed for a whole minute and after that I was riding the train over the clouds for hours.

The thickest heaviest smoke I've seen is the one from Black Domina, it is something special. But I believe it is that thick because of the composition of the resin. And still, that one doesn't make me cough at all. Sativa smoke tends to be lighter.

I always smoke pure weed unmixed. Additives like tobacco make the cough disappear, there is some shit on it that masks the itching.

I would really like to have hash made from outdoor Taskenti.

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Carraxe

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Along the week I've been pollinating several females with the Taskenti pollen I got from the #6, #8 and #10 males from this batch. I also froze a batch of pollen containers for future pollinations, like that of the White Widow, before I culled the males. Just one step ahead.

In my experience, which is short in this subject, outcrosses made with Taskenti are usually worse than Taskenti, but also I really want to make them. They will provide productive, powerful and vital F1 plants, new smoking experiences, and also a measure of the quality of the males used.

Black Domina, for its polyhybrid nature, creates a very assorted offspring, so I expect a lot of variability. This plant, that's an almost pure Indica, summarizes all you'd expect from the best Afghans and Pakis. Fast, extremely tasty and sweet, relaxing. The smoke is unique, aromatic and dense. The plant smells a lot and extremely sweet even in veg. I've never smelled something like that. So let's see what we get from the mix.

For what I've seen in the Matanuska I've got, it is an inbreed strain (like most of old school strains that are offered in its unmixed purity, whatever it is), so the result will probably be better than the cut I used.

I didn't take any pic, but I will.

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Nirrity

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This kind of cough doesn't remember (to me) the cough of these weeds, that make you cough because it itches in your throat while the smoke passes through.
perhaps it may be due to high caryophyllene or other sesquiterpenes like bisabolol or humulene. caryophyllene is in black pepper,so that may irritate trachea. i wonder if sour bubble is cough inducing? it is another indica with high caryophyllene content
 

Carraxe

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perhaps it may be due to high caryophyllene or other sesquiterpenes like bisabolol or humulene. caryophyllene is in black pepper,so that may irritate trachea. i wonder if sour bubble is cough inducing? it is another indica with high caryophyllene content

What I say there is that it makes you cough, but not because your throat itches, but for something that happens in the bottom of your lungs. But it could also be caused by terpenes, why not?

This expectorant effect, like the effect of the smoke, is most likely to be caused by the cannabinoids and the associated terpenes in the resin.
 

Carraxe

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After some failures trying to make feminized seeds I have to say that I missed the good old traditional pollination with real males. It is soooo easy...

These plants were pollinated for the first time 8 days ago, and the last time with different males five days ago, and they show they are already growing seeds. There is still a thick layer of pollen and other flower material over them, some of which glued to the resin.

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Carraxe

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Pollination worked well and both the outcrosses' and the Taskenti seeds are growing properly two weeks after pollination. In total, five plants were generously pollinated by these Taskenti males. These plants grew more than expected and I pollinated most of their buds, so there is a good chance for a good seed harvest. Just four/five more weeks to go.

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Carraxe

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Everything keeps going. I have some Taskentis from the last batch flowering at 5 weeks and they look even better than the ones from the batch before, so I've planted some dozens more. The proportion of seeds still sprouting is lower every day, I believe I will have around one more year to keep going with these old seeds, so I have to organize to make the most of them.

Sorry for the pics, these were made with the lights off and the tent closed.

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Some pics of the plants developing seeds from the males from that very same batch. Black Domina, Matanuska and Taskenti. Nice looking, some have some colors because of the cold these days.

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Carraxe

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Hi
The plants in that last batch look gorgeous, I'll try to take some pictures, but these Christmas times are crazy and I don't find the moment. The lights are on just during the night, into the cheap electricity schedule, so it makes it even more difficult.

In the batches made from the F2 males coming from the 2012 seeds, I've repeatedly found 2 different phenotypes.

The most usual one, comprising about 3/4 of the plants, is the common productive, low smell, Taskenti. Grind bud has little aroma, but effect is nice, and some specimens produce quite a lot. I've already selected two of these ones, and the aromas are subtle, recalling anise, mint, eucalyptus and oregano.

The less usual one, about 1/4 of the plants, has a stronger smell when grinded, similar to the anise-eucalyptus from the 1st pheno, but mixed with a stronger and darker background that adds a lot of complexity to the mix. I'll try to have a better description. These plants showing this pheno tend to produce less than the other pheno, but the smoke is tastier. I've also selected a couple of them, coming from different males.

Man, I'm just now smoking one from TT123#2 (tasty pheno) and this is really flavorful.

I'm using all these plants to cross with males from the other line, the one I'm flowering now, made with 2005 F2 males. Since these are endogamic, I am worried the plants will suffer some side effect. So I'll also have to cross males and females coming from the healthier line, to get better chances.

If I'm lucky, in less than a year I will have all the crosses made, and some of them tested.
 

Carraxe

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Near 7 weeks, these Taskentis look like that, homogeneous, sugary and appetizing. It is difficult to light the images properly under these powerful lights, so I've made some pictures with and without flash. Such a layer of resin in the leaves gives a powerful evidence of the original Uzbek hash-making strain.

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And the seeded plants, after 4 weeks, start to show some mature seeds. I'll wait two more weeks to harvest them.

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