Taskenti

[Carraxe]

this is confusing.
Carraxe, so what's the odor level on Taskenti? is it a low odor strain, or one needs a good carbon filter to grow indoors?

Summarizing in one line, just in case you don't want to read much: flavor when smoking, and smell when growing, these are two different things.


If you want a longer answer, there it is:

I don't find it any confusing. The Taskentis in advanced flowering don't smell like modern hybrids, so they are a blessing for indoor growing in the city. That's also common to many traditional hash-producing plants: the plants, and the hash itself doesn't smell much until you heat it, knock it into shape or smoke it. The open or scrubbed bud is what smells.

Man, I grew a single plant of White Widow XXL from Barneys Farm and all my house was stinking for days, fortunately I've already put it inside a jar. That's the kind of weed I don't need, I don't enjoy smelling like weed when I have some joints with me. I am not a dealer, I don't need my weed to be noticeable, and I believe that these ultra-light terpenes also tend to disappear soon when curing and add little enjoyment to the smoke. They are just a fashion that I bet (I hope) will dissappear.

I've grown plenty of skunky and smelling-out-loud hybrids during last 25+ years and I really believe that the stink they create doesn't make the high better, just more public. In fact, some of the commercial plants I keep from ancient times, the ones I prefer, are just Jack Herer and Black Domina. They have a subtle smell when flowering, in spite of being very very tasty and aromatic when smoked. Like, for example, any real Northern Lights. Also, the special sativas I grow, like Mextiza, Thai Angola, etc don't smell much. Until the moment I light a joint in a public place and everybody wants to be my friend. The taste and smell when they burn is glorious.

I just put the 9 dried females from last TT125 batch into containers. They smell, of course, and the open buds smell like creamy, anise and eucalyptus, I love these smells. It smells in the room I hand the buds in, not all around my building. At the same time, in my experience with this strain (that I've been growing constantly for more than 10 years) I can say, without any doubt, that the flavor of this strain is one of the strongest one, there is a smoke test in this website I made some years ago that you can look for.

In fact, it is so strong in flavor, that it is a difficult strain to smoke alone. It usually makes you cough, no matter what.

Hope I helped clarify the subject.
Sweet smokes

 

[Nirrity]

why would you even assume that i don't want to read much?)

thanks for the elaboration, it seems that you was saying about growing plant vs buds odor/flavor.

i wouldn't disregard stinky strains as inferior, it's just that they have more mono terpenes like limonene, myrcene, linalool which have much lower olfactory threshold meaning our olfactory bulbs detect then in much lower concentrations. terpinolene has much higher olfactory threshold even though it's almost a twin brother of limonene, that's why terpinolene dominant sativas don't stink as much as sour diesel family.

sesquiterpenes, like caryophyllene generally not that smelly both because they have higher olfsctory threshold and because they are much less volatile than monoterpenes. from what i understand Taskenti is a caryophyllene dominant strain so that explains why it doesn't stink as much.

regarding stinky varieties and more volatile monoterpenes it would be interesting to see what percentage of monoterpenes are lost after 1 year storage.

 

[bloyd]

I think we had different experiences with Taskenti, the flavor in the plants I grow is one of the most hard and intense of all cannabis. It is even a little difficult to smoke because this superstrong earthy flavor and makes cough more than other strains. I don't know what you mean by soft terpenes, but these are definitely not soft.

I think what you mean about the terpenes is that this weed doesn't reek like modern hybrids. The smell on the buds is very natural and pleasant, not like the volatile skunky ones that dissapear quickly. I find this to be a nice feature, but I understand that other people have different

Cheers

I thought I had replied earlier. I think part of the harshness of taskenti comes from it's thick cuticle structure. It produces thick heavy smoke. I dry sifted much of my seed run and didn't get that bite. I'm not sure what batch mine were from they were a reproduction from an old member but I didn't see much variation in the 30 or so I grew.

My meaning of soft is not loud. I prefer loud in general. I freeze most of my bud to keep it loud. I found the smells to be creamy, earth, metallic but not in a pronounced outward way. The taskenti definitely muted the sherbet in these few I grew but did add some pleasant feel good effects and duration to the effects. It smokes like a rich tobacco reminds me of a Bubba cross. I am tempted to start some Burmese x taskenti to see if it tames that loud.

 

[Carraxe]

why would you even assume that i don't want to read much?)

thanks for the elaboration, it seems that you was saying about growing plant vs buds odor/flavor.

i wouldn't disregard stinky strains as inferior, it's just that they have more mono terpenes like limonene, myrcene, linalool which have much lower olfactory threshold meaning our olfactory bulbs detect then in much lower concentrations. terpinolene has much higher olfactory threshold even though it's almost a twin brother of limonene, that's why terpinolene dominant sativas don't stink as much as sour diesel family.

sesquiterpenes, like caryophyllene generally not that smelly both because they have higher olfsctory threshold and because they are much less volatile than monoterpenes. from what i understand Taskenti is a caryophyllene dominant strain so that explains why it doesn't stink as much.

regarding stinky varieties and more volatile monoterpenes it would be interesting to see what percentage of monoterpenes are lost after 1 year storage.

I think that our opinion over these subjects, like everything, depends on tastes. I don't think smelling weeds are inferior to not smelling ones, that's a big generalization I wouldn't assume. And also I don't really know which terpenes from your list can go two squares away to provide their smell. What I know if they evaporated away from your weed and they are in fact two squares away, they aren't in your joint, are them? They can't affect much the cannabinoid entourage effect you would enjoy with your smoke if they stayed in the resin.

I've had several limonene-rich lemon-smelling plants that don't reek. In fact, I believe my Jack Herer is rich in limonene and it doesn't reek like a White Widow. I believe that some strains have just been breed that way, selecting for frosty stinky beautiful buds, like that White Widow. A lot of bag appeal, but the smoke is just meh. Not bad, but could be better. These smelly strains are the first to lose their bouquet because whatever is making them smell is extremely volatile and already going away.

The way I select the plants goes the other way around: I smoke every plant and grow her a couple of times to compare the smoke and the plant behaviour, before selection. I select plants by its effect and flavor. But, also for sure: if I test grow some new weed and it stinks, it is likely I get rid of her. I have carbon filters, but that kind of smell is something I don't value. I value aroma of the bud, flavor and effect of the smoke. Not the aroma of the bud in the next room.

CBG guys had posted a terpene analysis from the Taskenti, it could answer your question. But in any case, the taskentis have a strong flavor.


Sweet smokes

 

[Nirrity]

What I know if they evaporated away from your weed and they are in fact two squares away, they aren't in your joint, are them?

not really. what i was trying to say is that certain monoterpenes - linalool, limonene and myrcene - are very detectable by human olfactory bulbs. that means a strain rich in these terpenes is stinky. i've seen such weed tested at very high terpenes content, like 3%-4%. so to say that these terpenes evaporated from bud would be overstretch.
but these monoterpenes being more volaltile do evaporate faster than sesquiterpenes, that is why bloyd mebtioned he keep buds in a fridge to stop them evaporating.

my Jack Herer is rich in limonene

from the tests i saw JH is a terpinolene dominant strain. terpinolene isn't that smelly comparing to limonene/linalool/myrcene trio.

But, also for sure: if I test grow some new weed and it stinks, it is likely I get rid of her. I have carbon filters, but that kind of smell is something I don't value. I value aroma of the bud, flavor and effect of the smoke. Not the aroma of the bud in the next room.

i concur

CBG guys had posted a terpene analysis from the Taskenti

where i can find it? do you have a link?

 

[Carraxe]

not really. what i was trying to say is that certain monoterpenes - linalool, limonene and myrcene - are very detectable by human olfactory bulbs. that means a strain rich in these terpenes is stinky. i've seen such weed tested at very high terpenes content, like 3%-4%. so to say that these terpenes evaporated from bud would be overstretch.
but these monoterpenes being more volaltile do evaporate faster than sesquiterpenes, that is why bloyd mebtioned he keep buds in a fridge to stop them evaporating.

from the tests i saw JH is a terpinolene dominant strain. terpinolene isn't that smelly comparing to limonene/linalool/myrcene trio.

i concur

where i can find it? do you have a link?

Hi. The analysis used to be in this thread from CBG. It is a little long, but if I get some time I'll look for it.

https://www.icmag.com/threads/taskenti.205179/

Sweet smokes

EDIT. I couldn't find the analysis the CBG guys shared. Also, this original thread from Kaiki seems to be archived and closed, there is no way to answer.

 

[Carraxe]

I thought I had replied earlier. I think part of the harshness of taskenti comes from it's thick cuticle structure. It produces thick heavy smoke. I dry sifted much of my seed run and didn't get that bite. I'm not sure what batch mine were from they were a reproduction from an old member but I didn't see much variation in the 30 or so I grew.

My meaning of soft is not loud. I prefer loud in general. I freeze most of my bud to keep it loud. I found the smells to be creamy, earth, metallic but not in a pronounced outward way. The taskenti definitely muted the sherbet in these few I grew but did add some pleasant feel good effects and duration to the effects. It smokes like a rich tobacco reminds me of a Bubba cross. I am tempted to start some Burmese x taskenti to see if it tames that loud.

Man, how I would love to grow a forest of Taskenti in a proper weather and make a ton of sift hash. I bet it would be a new world of taste and effect.

 

[Nirrity]

couldn't find the analysis the CBG guys shared. Also, this original thread from Kaiki seems to be archived and closed, there is no way to answer.

dang it. hope someone saved it and can share here

 

[Carraxe]

dang it. hope someone saved it and can share here

I believe there was one analysis made in a Taskenti plant, but I might also have confused it with another one. It was more than 10 years ago

 

[bloyd]

https://www.icmag.com/threads/taskenti.205179/ the taskenti thread is in archives

 

[bloyd]

Man, how I would love to grow a forest of Taskenti in a proper weather and make a ton of sift hash. I bet it would be a new world of taste and effect.

It's definitely a hash plant. I crossed it to banana og with that goal in mind.

 

[bloyd]

Edit

 

[Nirrity]

https://www.icmag.com/threads/taskenti.205179/ the taskenti thread is in archives

i am getting "You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action."

 

[bloyd]

i am getting "You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action."

I think you have to be a veteran to view the archives

 

[Nirrity]

I think you have to be a veteran to view the archives

i saw at my log i was registered at 2008. jeez, time flies... anyways, i have no idea what constitutes a veteran this days)

 

[bloyd]

i saw at my log i was registered at 2008. jeez, time flies... anyways, i have no idea what constitutes a veteran this days)

I do remember you from long ago. I'm not certain of the requirements. I thought it was 10 years.

 

[Nirrity]

yeah me too. also Limeygreen who gives thumbs up here. i think i saw you both at reeferman back in the days?

 

[bloyd]

yeah me too. also Limeygreen who gives thumbs up here. i think i saw you both at reeferman back in the days?

I pretty much have stayed exclusively here. I waste too much time as it is to seek other outlets.

 

[Carraxe]

Hi

This is the batch I put into flower just a week ago. I've already spotted some males I'm gonna use to pollinate several plants that have been flowering a little longer, not only Taskentis but several other indicas.

I plan to use every one of these males and completely pollinate all the plants I chose, so I'll get a generous amount of seeds and much work ahead of testing and selecting.

Pic is bad because the lights are already off (I have their day set during the night, since electricity is cheaper here at night).

More seeds from the same seed batch are growing, I plan to use as many males as I can to try to keep some diversity. And I also have about a dozen of females from a different batch that I am growing and testing for the second time, that I'll also pollinate once I test them.

The moment of truth, the first one relevant event, will come the moment I grow the seeds I made a couple of months ago, mixing the best line in effects with the most vital one. This will provide good insight about the viability of the strain conservation, and the moment comes closer.

Sweet Smokes

 

[Carraxe]

Hi

Now that I have a good source of males from authentic Taskenti stock, I've been looking for plants to cross with them. Although the important thing I'd like to do would be to keep the original taskenti uncrossed and alive, I also want to cross it and experiment the results. I mean, smoke them.

I have ordered some Bubba Kush x PCK from ACE seeds. There aren't many pure indicas to choose for a Taskenti outcross, but this hashplant could be one of the best, since it comes from a cross that could add a lot of diversity. Better than just pure PCK for the genetic pool, but also, for some reason, I don't like purple plants, they are pretty but I find their effect to be worse.

Of course, I also chose that one for the little amount of CBD it produces. CBD goes directly against the kind of stone I seek and CBD plants are kept out of my grows.

I also have a couple of feminised Northern Lights x Blueberry plantlets that, maybe, could cross well. Remember I seek for this special indica effect of the Taskenti and modern hybrids made with sativas don't fall in what I seek.

In a week or two I will use male Taskenti pollen to pollinate a Black Domina, a Matanuska and three different Taskenti females.

Sweet smokes