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[LifeLess]

I Just picked up the 6.4k , 3k and the 10k for my next run to see how things go. Only money right. A few friends turned me onto these and said there having great results. So its gonna be the 6.4 then bloom with the 3 and the final 2 weeks ill throw in the 10. Ill start my veg in 1 week and update weekly back here. Ill be blooming 3 ecsd and 1 indiana bubblegum. Peace LL

 

[Cindiwaa]

updates?

 

[outdoe]

Whats the word on this people?

 

[justiceman]

I Just started a journal here and I am going to do the 6.4k for veg, 3k for flower, and 10k for finishing. Stop by If you are interested. It's in my link.

Edit: For some reason it's not showing up on my signature. here is the link
Grow Lab:The quest for Infinite Resin

 

[Tripsick]

Do they run much cooler than a HPS?

 

[justiceman]

I believe they do indeed run cooler. How much cooler? no idea. It might just be a marginal difference but cooling seems a bit easier with these lamps. I do however notice that they don't give off as much of a hot spot like HPS does. As a result I am able to place my plants closer to the light.

 

[beats6789]

Im glad I found this thread. Im faced with this problem

I want a new ballast, a 20000hz dimmable nextgen but hps bulbs degrade quickly because they run at 50/60hz supposedly. .

Tell me, is it worth upgrading to a new 20000hz ballast and a 3k sunpulse or should I just keep my digital 600w 50/60hz hps/mh ballast. I assume my yield will remain the same but over all efficiency would increases? I think I can dig that.

Im thinking a nextgen dimmable ballast, sunpulse 3k 600w, fersa sol water cool fixture with a light rail all position 1 inch above the canopy. I can start to see the better results with all that oppose to a stationary 50/60hz 600w HPS.

Am I wrong?

 

[B. Friendly]

I can't get any info on their spectrum???

 

[ItsAllOver]

Back with my results.
Negative results, unless you are happy with an inconclusive but maybe slight increase in quality and a 40% decrease in quantity. These bulbs may have their application, but this appears not to be it. Another example of "looks good on paper, but doesn't flesh out that way in reality," kinda like communism.
Well anyway, my beer alarm just went off, better run to the freezer!

 

[krunchbubble]

Do they run much cooler than a HPS?

no, they run much hotter....


im 3 grows in using sunpulse bulbs and i have several friends using them as well. we all agree on the same thing. it DOES improve quality substantially, but it sacrifices yield for this quality.

if i were to do it again, i would not buy sunpulse bulbs, mh bulbs would do the same thing......

 

[ItsAllOver]

no, they run much hotter...

That's definitely not my experience. I used the 600w 3k and it was significantly cooler. I know of 5x 1000w 3ks that were also cooler.

Yea, looks like a tradeoff for quality, but it doesn't seem justified to me given that the quantity seems to be affected in an unbalanced way.

 

[krunchbubble]

That's definitely not my experience. I used the 600w 3k and it was significantly cooler. I know of 5x 1000w 3ks that were also cooler.

Yea, looks like a tradeoff for quality, but it doesn't seem justified to me given that the quantity seems to be affected in an unbalanced way.

ah, i used the 1000's. i have 3 1000's stacked up in one of my verts, the middle bulb is the sunpulse, the other two are hortilux.

when i put my hand near the cooltubes, with the hortilux bulbs i can feel the heat about 6" away from the cooltube. with the sunpulse, i feel it 12" away from the cooltube.

i dont think its worth the money. i get hortilux bulbs for $40, the sunpulse cost me $100 each.........

 

[krunchbubble]

muahahaha! i think one of my sunpulses went out last night. going to replace with a horti......

 

[YosemiteSam]

no, they run much hotter....


im 3 grows in using sunpulse bulbs and i have several friends using them as well. we all agree on the same thing. it DOES improve quality substantially, but it sacrifices yield for this quality.

if i were to do it again, i would not buy sunpulse bulbs, mh bulbs would do the same thing......

I agree with this. The Sun Pulse bulb did, in fact, give me more crystal as compared with using HPS for the entire flowering period. My yield did not improve though...in fact it went down just a little bit.

Then I read something by Redheadfreakin...about using MH for the first couple of weeks of flower and then again for the last two weeks. That is the combo that ended up working out best for me...higher yields and most excellent quality.

Sunpulse was ultimately not worth it for me.

 

[diSPENCERy]

A. We don't post lumen numbers on our website because lumens are a measurement for the human eye and have nothing at all to do with plants. With plants, it’s about incident energy and the light that can reach the leaf that the plant can actually use for photosynthesis. That can be measured in watts per meter squared, or in foot-candles of incident energy.

Watts per meter squared, isn't exactly relevant when spinning the lights. Theses units are designed for efficiency. Foot-candles or LUX would give you a great comparison, where as watts per meter squared, is less accurate because of the inverse square law, spinning lights will be much closer the canopy then even liquid cooled lights. (Liquid-Lumens, Fresca-Sol type refectors), and thus, is an unfair comparison.

 

[trickcomanche]

It comes down to quality over quantity. These bulbs were not designed to Grow Pot. There were designd to replicate the sun. So its the quality thats going to improove.


Trick

 

[KosmoKramer]

Hmm. Old thread.

Looking to step up in wattage soon. Definately want to run a digi ballast and 600w. Sun Pulse lamps look attractive on paper, and quality matters to me.

I'm running 400 CMH in a 4x4 tent so a 600 at double, if not triple the light intensity with the same quality is a win-win proposition for me. Prob looking at using the 4k straight thru flowering, just like the CMH.

How was longevity/liability on these? Other choices were Ushio and Horti Super.

 

[TacomaComa]

I tried them and wasnt impressed. went back to horti super

 

[KosmoKramer]

How was the quality TC? Did you run multiple bulbs at different stages of flower or one bulb all the way to harvest?

Like I stated before I'm stepping up from a 400 to a 600. Yield is going to increase no matter. BUT quality is more important that max yield.

CMH bulbs are king when it comes to quality of product. I've ran different types of 400s and none have equalled the CMH in terms of quality and taste. Not even close IMO. Only thing I've found equal is the Horti Blue MH.

 

[moresntoil]

jeez, not alot of info on the web about these lamps so it was really nice to find this thread. I just ordered a digilux mh rather than the sunpulse just cuz it was cheeper. I may try a sp3k for flowering just so I can see for myself. Then I was looking at the solarburst lamps on ebay, very cheap. It would be great if we could find a cheap lamp that matches the quality, even if they are only good for a couple rounds before replacing, cuz I can see my eyehorta loose brightness just within a month of burning w/ a lumitek ballast wtf? from what everyone says you shouldreplace your lamps every year anyways
I dont know, between nutrients,lamps,grow medium ect my head spins sometimes. Its really had to tell what is just a bunch of mumbojumbo for marketing and what is real. next there will be 10 differant lamps to use just for one batch, and they will all cost over $100ea.

hey kramer, these cmh lamps? can you tell me alittle bit about them? I have read some online but for some reason that I cant remember I got turned off to them???? what about yeild with them?