Storm in Valencia

[DARKSIDER]

My family and ACE are safe, but many villages in southern Valencia have been devastated, almost like a tsunami. Over 200 people have lost their lives, and hundreds are still missing, with around 150,000 people affected by the floods.

Government response and prevention have been negligent. The official alert was issued only after the flooding had already begun, and it took the military 3-5 days to arrive and start helping. Thousands of citizen volunteers had to organize spontaneously, bringing water, food, and assistance for clearing water and mud. It has been a powerful lesson in citizens' solidarity versus government inefficiency. Yesterday, both our king and president visited the affected area, and they had to run away from the angry crowd.

Very sad days here.

Nice to see you and family are safe a sad time for sure

 

[Hasch]

Good to hear you guys are safe @dubi

I was hesitant to post it here, but since it was brought up by someone "affected":

I have a hard time watching videos etc of high officials and royalty trying to placate the mood after the officials / politicians have neglected their sworn duty.


I feel like we've been acting like unruly teenagers for two centuries and now Gaia is starting to put her foot down.

To bad it seems like many of us (especially the ones in "power") still refuse to grow up and take responsibility for their actions...

And "moving out to live in a place of our own" isn't an option either...

 

[Hasch]

Double post, sorry.

 

[Rocket Soul]

Thousands of citizen volunteers had to organize spontaneously, bringing water, food, and assistance for clearing water and mud. It has been a powerful lesson in citizens' solidarity versus government inefficiency. Yesterday, both our king and president visited the affected area, and they had to run away from the angry crowd.

Very sad days here.

El pueblo siempre suple los fallos del estado/gobierno/autonomia - pero a coste de propio bolsillo y esfuerzo. Its hard to know who to point at cause responsibility for both the prevention and final response is not quite clear to me. In any case there is a time for that later and it is both frustrating, heartwarming and not surprising to see who seem to lead here: the people themselves, man/woman/old from la misma tierra.
Spaniards say its the land of la pandereta which may be true in some regards but spaniards certainly knows more than playing the tamborine when the going gets tough. This is part of why i love Spain so much; its not about the flag/crown/moncloa thats for certain and i think most people in Spain from the outside feel the same: we love spain sometimes despite spain but always because of the spaniards, what ever they call themselves (catalan/castill@/andaluh'/vasco etc)

The reporting here this morning was only on the king and his umbrella nothing on sanchez. But the mess and feelings are clearly understood here. Fuerza animo

 

[spigolaro]

I am very sorry for what happened in Valencia, a prayer for all the people who did not make it and for those who are fighting against the mud and a big Fuck You to the King and the powerful of the Earth but sooner or later you will have to deal with Our Lord.

 

[HCMPA]

For all the smoke vendors, is not climate change, have nothing to do with that, STOP lying and selling your lies as the only truth, there is not one single truth, but there are tons of lies and liars.

For whoever that want to know the truth:

Since Roman times, the city of Valencia has witnessed numerous overflows of the Turia River. Over the centuries, the city has experienced expansion and has implemented various measures to defend itself against severe flooding.

In the records of the years from 1321 –the previous “Llibres de Consell” disappeared in a fire– until 1957, 25 episodes of floods have been recorded in Valencia, in the years 1321, 1328, 1340, 1358, 1406, 1427, 1475, 1517, 1540, 1581, 1589, 1590, 1610, 1651, 1672, 1731, 1776, 1783, 1845, 1860, 1864, 1870, 1897 and finally 1957.

Wikipedia

Peace.

 

[Rocket Soul]

For all the smoke vendors, is not climate change, have nothing to do with that, STOP lying and selling your lies as the only truth, there is not one single truth, but there are tons of lies and liars.

For whoever that want to know the truth:


Wikipedia

Peace.

These floods were not in Valencia town, it was in small villages outside. Iirc valencia had the river diverted in order to avoid floodings in town. The records you bring are kind of not related to these recent floods as its not the same place.

For info: im not taking any side in whatever issue people take with eachother, just putting this new flooding-information brought into proper context. Anyone whod like to have an argument can happily go on and have it without me