Startup in Colorado?

[Sam the Caveman]

it might be better to move to a state that is on the verge of getting new mmj laws, there are several. Do your research.

Then you would be there from the beginning helping the law get passed through activism, making local contacts. When it passed, you would actually feel you did you part instead of moving there after the law passed and trying to profit on the backs of the folks who worked their ass off getting the law passed. Even if things in that state go the way of colorado, who do you think the warehouse registered dispensary growers are? People who have had a long working relationships with dispensaries.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

You already missed the boat on colorado... you should look at arizona. hawaii is also pondering the idea of allowing dispensaries. We were one of the first shops open in Denver with a legitimate MMJ dispensary license. I love colorado, but its pretty saturated. The biggest obstacle is the two year residency. So if you dont have that, you would have to partner with someone who is, and in my expereince partnership is the first step to failure.... just my .02 cents.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

you forgot to mention 30 cent electric rates

its hawaii>>>volcanic dirt and tropical sunshine produces some of the finest cannabis i have smoked. and you can flower year round with light dep greenhouses...

 

[daheadies]

Yes4Prop summed up the colorado situation pretty well on the first page.. Someone said they think the caregiver system will come back, it wont, because the state is looking to make money (y they are doing this) and caregiver system was not really letting that happen. This way ALL meds are taxed and monitered.
Wholesale prices of herb in Colorado right now range from 1600-2600 per pound of fire dankness. Prices keep dropping, its cause lots of dispensaries are still buying weed from illegal people that cant get rid of their shit anymore soo their dropping it for dirt cheap. The reason that dispensaries are buying this illegal weed still is cause some dispensaries cant provide for the demand because they dont have big enough warehouses..
I would agree (not trying to keep you out) with the others that say go to a state where MMJ is just being figured out.
As of July 2011, the Colorado resident thing will apply not only to owners but growers too for dispensaries because of HB1284. (If I understand everything correctly)
So not only can you not open a shop NO MATTER WHAT (when people were saying how much licensing is, they didnt mention that all licensing fees and applications had to be turned in by July 2010), and cant buy a shop, you wont really even be able to work there (unless you wanna be a budtista making $10 a hour.. I think that you can still do if you havnt lived in the state for 2.5 years)

 

[mule420]

I have enough new and used hydro gear and lights to outfit a warehouse grow... All bought since 1284 passed... The money whores all jumped the shark then split. Fire is cheap and many cardholders are catching on and buying underground for cost...

The only people getting the big bucks here are the dudes slinging 1/8s on a corner out of a trenchcoat or a dispensary it's the same...

 

[FreezerBoy]

To all in general and none in particular: Stick to the subject and enough with the cheap shots.

 

[SELFHEMPLOYED]

Yes4Prop summed up the colorado situation pretty well on the first page.. Someone said they think the caregiver system will come back, it wont, because the state is looking to make money (y they are doing this) and caregiver system was not really letting that happen. This way ALL meds are taxed and monitered.
Wholesale prices of herb in Colorado right now range from 1600-2600 per pound of fire dankness. Prices keep dropping, its cause lots of dispensaries are still buying weed from illegal people that cant get rid of their shit anymore soo their dropping it for dirt cheap. The reason that dispensaries are buying this illegal weed still is cause some dispensaries cant provide for the demand because they dont have big enough warehouses..
I would agree (not trying to keep you out) with the others that say go to a state where MMJ is just being figured out.
As of July 2011, the Colorado resident thing will apply not only to owners but growers too for dispensaries because of HB1284. (If I understand everything correctly)
So not only can you not open a shop NO MATTER WHAT (when people were saying how much licensing is, they didnt mention that all licensing fees and applications had to be turned in by July 2010), and cant buy a shop, you wont really even be able to work there (unless you wanna be a budtista making $10 a hour.. I think that you can still do if you havnt lived in the state for 2.5 years)

Agree except for the 16-2600 per pound. It's much higher than that. The cheapest I've seen true fire go for is 3300. If anyones getting only 1600 pounds then they should try a new hobby.

 

[thingshappening]

Agree except for the 16-2600 per pound. It's much higher than that. The cheapest I've seen true fire go for is 3300. If anyones getting only 1600 pounds then they should try a new hobby.

well if that's the case, then it's really not over at all for growers there, is it? I was hearing mid to upper 2's at most in CO, for example...they advertise 4k an lb on the radio in michigan, lol.

I'm probably going to stay in Michigan if the differential is 4k vs 2500 in co...but if it's 3300 or more in CO? sheeeit I'd take a 25% profit reduction to live in CO over MI any day bro haha.

 

[303hydro]

well if that's the case, then it's really not over at all for growers there, is it? I was hearing mid to upper 2's at most in CO, for example...they advertise 4k an lb on the radio in michigan, lol.

I'm probably going to stay in Michigan if the differential is 4k vs 2500 in co...but if it's 3300 or more in CO? sheeeit I'd take a 25% profit reduction to live in CO over MI any day bro haha.

Yes, but this only applies if you can grow the true fire like self.

(CHECK HIS THREAD - DAMN)

 

[SELFHEMPLOYED]

well if that's the case, then it's really not over at all for growers there, is it? I was hearing mid to upper 2's at most in CO, for example...they advertise 4k an lb on the radio in michigan, lol.

I'm probably going to stay in Michigan if the differential is 4k vs 2500 in co...but if it's 3300 or more in CO? sheeeit I'd take a 25% profit reduction to live in CO over MI any day bro haha.

The price is all over the board. Depends on who you're "vending" to and how much. I'm still seeing people get prices north of 4 for some very select ganj but I think you're doing well if it's above 35. The real key is variety of dank ass gear. I have some strains that my patients have to see around all the time. For instance the Royal Kush I run, 100% of it goes to one patient. This patient suffers from severe stomach spasms and the royal calms it down considerably. Other than the select few, I'm trying to get as much variety as possible to satisfy the never ending demand for new gear.

My advice is to stay in Michigan where you already know people. Moving here and expecting to get top dollar for your herb without already having deep connections or patients waiting is a slim chance.

Good luck to you man.

Yes, but this only applies if you can grow the true fire like self.

(CHECK HIS THREAD - DAMN)

Yo man thanks a lot, it's all about passion!

Rock on 303hydro

 

[thingshappening]

Yes4Prop summed up the colorado situation pretty well on the first page.. Someone said they think the caregiver system will come back, it wont, because the state is looking to make money (y they are doing this) and caregiver system was not really letting that happen. This way ALL meds are taxed and monitered.
Wholesale prices of herb in Colorado right now range from 1600-2600 per pound of fire dankness. Prices keep dropping, its cause lots of dispensaries are still buying weed from illegal people that cant get rid of their shit anymore soo their dropping it for dirt cheap. The reason that dispensaries are buying this illegal weed still is cause some dispensaries cant provide for the demand because they dont have big enough warehouses..
I would agree (not trying to keep you out) with the others that say go to a state where MMJ is just being figured out.
As of July 2011, the Colorado resident thing will apply not only to owners but growers too for dispensaries because of HB1284. (If I understand everything correctly)
So not only can you not open a shop NO MATTER WHAT (when people were saying how much licensing is, they didnt mention that all licensing fees and applications had to be turned in by July 2010), and cant buy a shop, you wont really even be able to work there (unless you wanna be a budtista making $10 a hour.. I think that you can still do if you havnt lived in the state for 2.5 years)

So, to clarify, in July 2011, growers dispensing to the dispensaries will have to deal with the 2 year residency thing, but not just regular ole' growers, correct? If it's 2 year residency for all growers, DAMN! That's awful to hear.

The price is all over the board. Depends on who you're "vending" to and how much. I'm still seeing people get prices north of 4 for some very select ganj but I think you're doing well if it's above 35. The real key is variety of dank ass gear. I have some strains that my patients have to see around all the time. For instance the Royal Kush I run, 100% of it goes to one patient. This patient suffers from severe stomach spasms and the royal calms it down considerably. Other than the select few, I'm trying to get as much variety as possible to satisfy the never ending demand for new gear.

My advice is to stay in Michigan where you already know people. Moving here and expecting to get top dollar for your herb without already having deep connections or patients waiting is a slim chance.

Good luck to you man.




Yo man thanks a lot, it's all about passion!

Rock on 303hydro

Awesome post. Thanks man. Best of luck to you and yours. Your garden is part of my "bookmark" reference collection. Lots of inspiration in your design for me.

 

[greenmatter]

this may be a little off subject but the mile high crew will see where i'm coming from. IF YOU ARE COMING TO COLORADO TO GROW, PLEASE LEARN TO DRIVE IN THE SNOW BEFORE YOU GET HERE !!!! sorry all, long week today....

 

[SELFHEMPLOYED]

So, to clarify, in July 2011, growers dispensing to the dispensaries will have to deal with the 2 year residency thing, but not just regular ole' growers, correct? If it's 2 year residency for all growers, DAMN! That's awful to hear.

Awesome post. Thanks man. Best of luck to you and yours. Your garden is part of my "bookmark" reference collection. Lots of inspiration in your design for me.

HB1284 made it illegal for private caregivers to vend to dispensaries. Period. The dispensaries are required to grow at least 70% of their own medicine at their own licensed commercial grow. The other 30% can only come from other Dispensaries.

This is what really put a big ass stick in the heart of private caregivers. Private caregivers can no longer vend any extra medicine to dispensaries. It also effectively put an end top quality and diverse medicine being in dispensaries. (moonshine is changing all of that : ) )

The only option private caregivers have is to provide medicine for their own patients and I don't think you're allowed to sell to other card holding patients but I could be wrong, a lot of caregivers do.. some what of a grey area I think.

 

[thingshappening]

Thanks for the rundown man. Really appreciate it.

 

[Space Case]

Moving here and expecting to get top dollar for your herb without already having deep connections or patients waiting is a slim chance.

Like Self said, its all about connections. If you don't know anyone, even with the FIRE, it will be hard to get rid of. You can't go door to door anymore with dispensaries, and you can't sell to other patients that don't have you as a caregiver. This has effectively lowered the price. The increase in price we are seeing again is basically a backlash, as 90% of dispensaries have total crap right now, so patients are willing to pay more for better, even if they have to go to the grey/black market to get it.

The only option private caregivers have is to provide medicine for their own patients and I don't think you're allowed to sell to other card holding patients but I could be wrong, a lot of caregivers do.. some what of a grey area I think.

Unfortunately its not quite a grey area, as it is more a tolerated and slip-through-the-cracks black market with caregivers right now. A lot of product is moving eastwards out of state, so some folks are able to get higher prices even locally, depending on who you know and where its going. But thats neither here nor there, nor is it something that will keep you out of jail.

If you can find a few patients that can take 1/4~1/2 lb each per month or so, and you really do have some amazing herbs, then you might be in business. Problem is, you can't grow much without patients, but you need bud-in-hand to acquire patients. So yes there are still good prices out there in the market, but there are some snags and catch-22s that you have to kind of step around and get to know.

Um...Rednick should be in here any second now to clarify....

 

[merlot]

If you can find a few patients that can take 1/4~1/2 lb each per month or so, and you really do have some amazing herbs, then you might be in business. Problem is, you can't grow much without patients, but you need bud-in-hand to acquire patients. So yes there are still good prices out there in the market, but there are some snags and catch-22s that you have to kind of step around and get to know.

Um...Rednick should be in here any second now to clarify....

And on top of that, most big cities you can only have 1 patient now, growing 12 plants... as opposed to 5 patients, 30 plants.

 

[cobcoop]

I'm trying to get as much variety as possible to satisfy the never ending demand for new gear.

Moving here and expecting to get top dollar for your herb without already having deep connections or patients waiting is a slim chance.

Sums it up pretty well.

 

[Rednick]

this may be a little off subject but the mile high crew will see where i'm coming from. IF YOU ARE COMING TO COLORADO TO GROW, PLEASE LEARN TO DRIVE IN THE SNOW BEFORE YOU GET HERE !!!! sorry all, long week today....

Stay Right Except To Pass,
Keep Left To Be An Ass.

 

[Rednick]

Um...Rednick should be in here any second now to clarify....

Nothing really to clarify. Hard times.
But come on over anyway, we love a party and we are friendly people. If I lived in MI I would be staying there, but Colorado is one cool state.

 

[tennesseetoker]

Never thought i'd see so many fellow growers discouraging a man from coming to your state to grow his passion and make yalls state money plus himself. Selfish bastards were you not much different not long ago scrapin by illegally and finally you get it legalized and you shoot down anyone elses dreams who would like to come to the state that agrees with them most. all i can say is fuckin WOW