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Spider Mite Information

southwind

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Quick Facts...
Spider mites are common plant pests. Symptoms of injury include flecking, discoloration (bronzing) and scorching of leaves. Injury can lead to leaf loss and even plant death.
Natural enemies include small lady beetles, predatory mites, minute pirate bugs, big-eyed bugs and predatory thrips.
One reason that spider mites become a problem is insecticides that kill their natural predators.
Irrigation and moisture management can be important cultural controls for spider mites.

Spider mites are common pest problems on many plants around yards and gardens . Injury is caused as they feed, bruising the cells with their small, whiplike mouthparts and ingesting the sap. Damaged areas typically appear marked with many small, light flecks, giving the plant a somewhat speckled appearance.

Following severe infestations, leaves become discolored, producing an unthrifty gray or bronze look to the plant. Leaves and needles may ultimately become scorched and drop prematurely. Spider mites frequently kill plants or cause serious stress to them.

Spider mites (Family: Tetranychidae) are classed as a type of arachnid, relatives of insects that also includes spiders, ticks, daddy-longlegs and scorpions. Spider mites are small and often difficult to see with the unaided eye. Their colors range from red and brown to yellow and green, depending on the species of spider mite and seasonal changes in their appearance.

Many spider mites produce webbing, particularly when they occur in high populations. This webbing gives the mites and their eggs some protection from natural enemies and environmental fluctuations. Webbing produced by spiders, as well as fluff produced by cottonwoods, often is confused with the webbing of spider mites.

The most important spider mite is the twospotted spider mite (Tetranychus urticae). This mite attacks a wide range of garden plants, including many vegetables (e.g., beans, eggplant), fruits (e.g., raspberries, currants, pear) and flowers. The twospotted spider mite is also the most important species on house plants. It is a prolific producer of webbing.

Evergreens tend to host other mites, notably the spruce spider mite (Oligonychus ununguis) on spruce and juniper, Oligonychus subnudus on pines, and Platytetranychus libocedri on arborvitae and juniper. Honeylocust, particularly those in drier sites, are almost invariably infested with the honeylocust spider mite (Platytetranychus multidigituli). Other mites may affect shade trees such as elm, mountain ash and oak.


Life History and Habits
Spider mites develop from eggs, which usually are laid near the veins of leaves during the growing season. Most spider mite eggs are round and extremely large in proportion to the size of the mother. After egg hatch, the old egg shells remain and can be useful in diagnosing spider mite problems.

There is some variation in the habits of the different mites that attack garden plants, trees and shrubs. Outdoors, the twospotted spider mite and honeylocust spider mite survive winter as adults hidden in protected areas such as bark cracks, bud scales or under debris around the garden. Other mites survive the cool season in the egg stage. As winter approaches, most mites change color, often turning more red or orange. This habit may be why they are sometimes called "red spiders."

Most spider mite activity peaks during the warmer months. They can develop rapidly during this time, becoming full-grown in as little as a week after eggs hatch. After mating, mature females may produce a dozen eggs daily for a couple of weeks. The fast development rate and high egg production can lead to extremely rapid increases in mite populations.

Other species of spider mites are most active during the cooler periods of the growing season, in spring and fall. This includes the spruce spider mite and most of the mites that can damage turfgrass. These cool-season spider mites may cease development and produce dormant eggs to survive hot summer weather.

Dry conditions greatly favor all spider mites, an important reason why they are so important in the more arid areas of the country. They feed more under dry conditions, as the lower humidity allows them to evaporate excess water they excrete. At the same time, most of their natural enemies require more humid conditions and are stressed by arid conditions. Furthermore, plants stressed by drought can produce changes in their chemistry that make them more nutritious to spider mites.
Control
Biological Controls

Various insects and predatory mites feed on spider mites and provide a high level of natural control. One group of small, dark-colored lady beetles known as the "spider mite destroyers" (Stethorus species) are specialized predators of spider mites. Minute pirate bugs, big-eyed bugs (Geocoris species) and predatory thrips can be important natural enemies.

A great many mites in the family Phytoseiidae are predators of spider mites. In addition to those that occur naturally, some of these are produced in commercial insectaries for release as biological controls. Among those most commonly sold via mail order are Galendromus occidentalis, Phytoseiulus persimilis, Mesoseiulus longipes and Neoseiulus californicus. Although these have been successful in control of spider mites on interior plants, effective use outdoors has not been demonstrated . Predatory mites often have fairly high requirements for humidity, which can be limiting. Most suppliers provide information regarding use of the predator mites that they carry.

One reason that spider mites become problems in yards and gardens is the use of insecticides that destroy their natural enemies. For example, carbaryl (Sevin) devastates most spider mite natural enemies and can greatly contribute to spider mite outbreaks. Malathion can aggravate some spider mite problems, despite being advertised frequently as effective for mite control. Soil applications of the systemic insecticide imidacloprid (Merit, Marathon) have also contributed to some spider mite outbreaks.

Water Management
Adequate watering of plants during dry conditions can limit the importance of drought stress on spider mite outbreaks. Periodic hosing of plants with a forceful jet of water can physically remove and kill many mites, as well as remove the dust that collects on foliage and interferes with mite predators. Disruption of the webbing also may delay egg laying until new webbing is produced. Sometimes, small changes where mite-susceptible plants are located or how they are watered can greatly influence their susceptibility to spider mite damage.

Chemical Controls
Chemical control of spider mites generally involves pesticides that are specifically developed for spider mite control (miticides or acaricides). Few insecticides are effective for spider mites and many even aggravate problems. Furthermore, strains of spider mites resistant to pesticides frequently develop, making control difficult. Because most miticides do not affect eggs, a repeat application at an approximately 10- to 14-day interval is usually needed for control. Table 1 includes a summary of pesticides that may be useful for managing spider mites.

Control of Spider Mites on House Plants
Control on house plants can be particularly frustrating. There generally are no biological controls and few effective chemical controls (primarily soaps and horticultural oils). When attempting control, treat all susceptible house plants at the same time. Trim, bag and remove heavily infested leaves and discard severely infested plants. Periodically hose small plants in the sink or shower. Wipe leaves of larger plants with a soft, damp cloth. Reapply these treatments at one- to two-week intervals as long as populations persist.


Table 1: Pesticides useful to control spider mites in yards and gardens.
Active Ingredient Trade Name(s) Comments

acephate Orthene:

:certain Isotox formulations Insecticide with some effectiveness against spider mites. Systemic.

abamectin:

Avid For commercial use only on ornamental plants. Primarily effective against twospotted spider mite; less effective against mites on conifers. Limited systemic movement.


bifenthrin Talstar
,:
other Insecticide with good miticide activity.

dimethoate:
Cygon Insecticide with fair miticidal activity. Few food crop registrations. Systemic.

:dicofol

Kelthane Selective miticide labeled for some food crops in addition to ornamental plants. Some reduced activity at higher temperatures.

hexythiazox:

Hexygon For commercial use only on ornamental plants. Selective miticide that affects developing stages and eggs only. One application per season label restriction.

horticultural oils:
Sunspray, others Used at the "summer oil" rate (2 percent), oils are perhaps the most effective miticide available for home use.

insecticidal soap :

several Marginally effective against twospotted spider mite and where webbing prevents penetration. Broadly labeled.
sulfur various Generally sold in dust formulation for control of various fungal diseases and some mites on some ornamental and vegetable crops
 
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CaptJamesTKirk

Active member
You forgot photon torpeadoes.


Kill the lil bastards.

Kill them all, then kill thier children.


Then do it again.



I really hate mites
 

southwind

Member
fungus gnats

fungus gnats

Fungus Gnats






Identification of Fungus Gnats
Most species are black in color and very small (less than 1/16 inch) in size, although a few species may reach 1/4 inch long. Key identifying characteristics include long legs and long thin wings. See the Fungus Gnat image for detailed appearance.

Family Sciaridae (Dark-winged fungus gnat family, in the order Diptera, flies).

Genus and Species: Bradysia species, especially Bradysia coprophila

Size and Color: Adult length 1/8; dusky wings; dark, hairy body. Larva (a maggot): 1/16-3/8; clear-bodied with black head capsule. (Egg and pupa are microscopic.)


Fungus Gnat Biology
These tiny pests belong to the families of flies called Fungivoridae and Sciaridae.

Adult Fungus Gnats prefer to lay their eggs in moist potting soil, which is why buildings containing potted plants or atriums. Soon after the eggs are laid, the larvae emerge to feed on fungus growing in damp potting soil. After feeding for a short period (little is actually known and been documented on their life cycle,) the larvae pupate. A few days after pupating, the adult Fungus gnats emerge to continue the cycle and increase the population.

Inspecting for Fungus Gnats

Fungus Gnats are often first noticed flying to or around lights, both indoors and out. When adult Fungus Gnats are seen, begin inspecting the indoor areas for moisture problems. Although fungus grows in areas such as moist wood (the result of leaks or poor insulation) and poorly ventilated crawlspaces and attics, most infestations are associated with moist potting soil. Look for adult flies in areas where moisture problems have been observed or are suspected; fungus gnat eggs and larvae are more often not on the exposed surface of soil and are too small to see without good magnification.

Once you have successfully located one source, continue your inspection. There are usually several breeding sites in a building by the time adult flies have been become a nuisance. In many cases, Fungus Gnats are invading a building from outdoors. Finish your inspection by evaluating the soil around the building. Some flower beds and other landscaped areas are never allowed to dry properly between irrigation cycles. Sprinkler heads might be located too close together or need to be redirected. Make sure that these areas are not being watered too often or too much. Even with good irrigation practices, the soil in landscaped areas often retain moisture long enough to allow fungus to grow, which serves as another food source for fungus gnats. In these cases, raking the mulch and underlying soil will allow enough air circulation to increase drying times. Raking helps kill existing fungi, exposing them to light and air.

destruction of fungus gnats
photon torpedo of death

Gnatrol
Bt israelensis or Mosquito dunks
probably single most effective at killing larvae and keeping all new flies out, does not kill adults but in days the adults die off and no new flies will emerge, treat your pots or put a dunk in res or in your watering can, this pretty mush stops it for good, you do have to innoculate new pots though

Prevention and Controls: Avoid overwatering and provide adequate indoor ventilation. Avoid potting mixes containing young composts. Drench pots with Bt israelensis, Bt H-14 or neem extract. Release predatory mites and predatory nematodes.


predatory nematodes.
Steinernema feltiae

dont use S. carpocapsae you will be disappointed with the results,

sticky tapes and flytraps are also effective in destroying adults also a small cup of beer will attract them and in attempting to consume beer become entrapped in beer and drown
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
Veteran
Heres my mighty mite macros. The yellow dots are the damage spots they leave.






 

southwind

Member
buggy

buggy

Thanks for stopping by Verite
its always a pleasure to have you on my thread.

That sounds kind of funny, now that I think of it.

Have you noticed how large the eggs are compared to the female?
they are about the same size. I notice the males do not stick around while the females are laying the eggs.

I cant imagine why.


Verite said:
Heres my mighty mite macros. The yellow dots are the damage spots they leave.






 

Herbalistic

Herbal relaxation...
Veteran
Those are very annoying & fucked up pest´s I have ever meeted!!! I have tryed pyrethrine, neem-oil, one cleaning substance & this bio bizz product called buzz off. The best results I have got with neem when repeating the treatment every three or fourth day. Now I think "my" mites have developed an resistance for neem and they are increasing = FUCKFUCKFUCK!!!

I am just starting to dip my plants in to a mix which consist of an: neem oil, buzz off, natural soap & diluted tobacco. I hope this new mix works even that much that I can flower my plants. If I see those fucks after flowering, I am going to keep an one month break of growing so I can harvest decent & mite free crops in the future!!!

Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!!!
:joint:
 

southwind

Member
Herbalistic said:
Those are very annoying & fucked up pest´s I have ever meeted!!! I have tryed pyrethrine, neem-oil, one cleaning substance & this bio bizz product called buzz off. The best results I have got with neem when repeating the treatment every three or fourth day. Now I think "my" mites have developed an resistance for neem and they are increasing = FUCKFUCKFUCK!!!

I am just starting to dip my plants in to a mix which consist of an: neem oil, buzz off, natural soap & diluted tobacco. I hope this new mix works even that much that I can flower my plants. If I see those fucks after flowering, I am going to keep an one month break of growing so I can harvest decent & mite free crops in the future!!!

Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!!!
:joint:


REMEMBER ALMOST NO PRODUCTS KILL THE EGGS THE YOUNG MITE AND THE ADULTS.

YOU MUST TREAT AT LEAST THREE TIMES SEVERAL DAYS APART.
YOU MUST TREAT ENTIRE PLANT ALL SURFACES, POTS, SOIL SURFACE.

THE PRODUCT MUST BE IN CONTACT WITH THE MITE TO KILL IT.

EVEN IF YOU KILL ALL THE ADULTS AND YOUNG THE EGGS WILL HATCH IN ONE TO TEN DAYS. AND YOU ARE BACK WHERE YOU STARTED.

If you have not cleaned out your flower room or veg room and bombed it or used a spray or wipe of bleach and water you will most likely get them again becuase they can crawl off and be on walls , floors wherever.

You are right, in the Nursery biz we had access to much better Miticides that actaully work but FEW that worked and fewer thatcould be used on plants that were edible/consumable.
Its better these days in the Nursery biz on that but not for the home gardener.

There are products which will destroy them in toto and completely in one treatment , Rosy Cheeks mentioned one or two but I have not been able to find even the Kelthane /Diconol available in my area any more.

AND you must USE extreme caution with high powered chems INDOORS especially not on plants to be harvested soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also can find no one who sells smaller quantities of the really effective miticides.

The best miticides are available on some sites but cost from 98 to over 300 US Dollars.

The resistance to Insecticides that you mention is very well documented and this is the real problem MITES DO BECOME IMMUNE. This happens because some mites you spray are just resistant and others are not, of course the resistant ones survive after you have killed most of them off and then start breeding again and so the next big outbreak you get is already from mites resistant to YOUR stuff and so does not work.

If you cannot afford the REAL miticides, like me, or cant find smaller amounts to buy its possible to get 2 products to attack with and hopefully if one does not get em the other will.


BUT its still the best idea if you can to strip down your area, disinfect COMPLETELY and then keep your veg area clean of them and once they are gone use any method you can to keep them OUT, do not bring in any new pots or plants, clones anything!!! that may have them riding in on, wash anything that has been outside before it comes into your grow, quarantine and treat for a few weeks any new clone or plant brought in, this may all seem extreme, but seriously this one of the most difficult pests you will EVER deal with.
 

Herbalistic

Herbal relaxation...
Veteran
Hola!!!

Thanks for pm southwind and thanks for the long post but it didnt help too much because I have been using those "extreme" cautions you mentioned for an while and hte result is that my clones are clean, my veg closet is slightly infected and floweringspace is hiding some kind of base for them!!! As least I think so because I have cleaned the whole apartment couple times thoroughly and those punks are still pushin themselfs!!!!!!!!!!!

I did an dip session with my plants yesterday and I cannot spot any mites now on my mainplants, which I have been vegged for two months in a hope to get nice bushes. I think I start flowering them at tomorrow and repeat this same dip treatment after week or 10 days. This time in between I use mix of: neem & pyrethrine & buzz off & soap & The Missing Link & tobacco water & maybe garlic water(havent tested yet.)

It seems that you can keep the population at somekind of control when you use these different mixes, but not all of them.

What you guys/gals think, will a one month break & couple thoroughly cleanings of an whole apartment & every surface inside this one month, get rid of those little fucks? It would be nice to hear experiences if any has any about those breaks...

By the way Southwind, Bio Nova has this growing product called: The Missing Link which is some kind of Carbochsyl acid(<- wrong typing, but dont know the word). TML destroys the eggs(little tip)

Take care!!!

Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!!!
:joint:
 

Herbalistic

Herbal relaxation...
Veteran
Yo, Captain Kirk: I have been searched that No Pest Strip for an while but you cannot get it from Finland...

Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!!!
:joint:
 

CaptJamesTKirk

Active member
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Herbalistic

Herbal relaxation...
Veteran
Hola mitefighters!!!

Good news, I cleared my flowering "room" from mites and the plants are doing well now!!! The mix that erased those fucks consist of: neem, buzz off, one finnish soap, cigarette water. Well see how long they will keep out before coming back but it is looking good now because I havent seen those buggers in five days, I really do hope they let me flower my plants propery!!! I have been sprayin my plants every other day with this mix and every other with pyrethrine, some occasianally spraying with The Missing Link for the eggs is also included in this "program".

CaptJamesTKirk wrote:
The mites have infected your government - it's a conspiracy.

That aint too far from truth. Allmost all efficient chemicals are illegal in Finland or if they aint illegal you will need some kind of fuck´d up education & permit to buy & use them!!! Hmm.. maybe I still try to ask about some products that contains that 2,2-dichlorovinyl dimethyl phosphate from an local gardening stores.

Take care everybody & make those sap suckin buggers suffer.

Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!!!
:joint:
 

Lofty

Member
Herbalistic said:
Yo, Captain Kirk: I have been searched that No Pest Strip for an while but you cannot get it from Finland...

i'm with u Herbalistic, i cant get nps in uk so i'll never find out if they work.

as far as mites go, i've had them for 3 years, sometimes i'm convinced i've won the battle but they always com back, i hav goon control of them now but never completely rid of them.

wen i cleaned my room up i opened plugs and ballasts and found them in there, i've found them in extention leads and underside of my co2 bottle. them little b*****D mites wud get into a nuns nickers!

to keep control of them i use 3 dif products and alternate them so they dont get used to it, 1) tobacco juice, 2) hot chillies water, 3) ultimate bug killer spray. i use them in turn each 3 days for 2 weeks in veg then each once a week in flower first 3 weeks.

i'm guna try som eucalyptus oil in a candle burner once a week.

mites in a nuns nickers hehe, i cna t get the though out of my head!
 

happyherb

no wuckin furries!
Veteran
CaptJamesTKirk said:
Can you say No Pest Strip?
.


yea but we cant buy them either in australia......i even emailed walmart to send me some but the wont!!
bommed the room many times bleeched a few times...gave the room few months break....thought i'd got rid of them then summer came and i noticed them again......i think ive choosen rather to get rid of them.... they can have the place and im moving and hope i dont pack any when i leave :dueling: .HH.
 

pico

Active member
Veteran
No pest strip knocked them back a little in my room but pretty soon they were back stronger than before. I have tried everything. I finally found the trick

Floramite SC. Registered for greenhouse tomatoes. Killed the bastards dead with 1 spray and i have yet to see them anywhere. It has been a month so far. My infestation was heavy and I lost a few crops last year because of those bastards. I have given samples out to other growers in the area with heavy infestations and have had rave reviews. This stuff works and it kills adults and eggs. 1 spray, 1/2 tsp per gallon....all dead.

I used some Stirrup M mite pheramone with the floramite SC last time but I am not totally sure it is necessary. It helps attract the mites if you don't get a good even spray. I sprayed the shit out of my plants and had no burning or any noticable sign that anything was sprayed.

YAY Floramite!


downside......$250 per quart.
 

happyherb

no wuckin furries!
Veteran
yea i have just been using a product that the "hydro shop" calls oz mite comes in a powder 1 teaspoon per litre....the guy swears buy it.....but you have to cover 100% of the plant and he recons do it complet darkness hmmmmmmm....well i wasnt there to buy it or i would have laughed at him and needless to say it hasnt worked at $90 and oz not real happy...all its done is slow them down....got given one of those things you plug into the wall and its supposed to drive them and mice away???? well im thinking the oz mite powder works better.....vicious circle.HH
 

arewhy

Member
pico said:
No pest strip knocked them back a little in my room but pretty soon they were back stronger than before. I have tried everything. I finally found the trick

Floramite SC. Registered for greenhouse tomatoes. Killed the bastards dead with 1 spray and i have yet to see them anywhere. It has been a month so far. My infestation was heavy and I lost a few crops last year because of those bastards. I have given samples out to other growers in the area with heavy infestations and have had rave reviews. This stuff works and it kills adults and eggs. 1 spray, 1/2 tsp per gallon....all dead.

I used some Stirrup M mite pheramone with the floramite SC last time but I am not totally sure it is necessary. It helps attract the mites if you don't get a good even spray. I sprayed the shit out of my plants and had no burning or any noticable sign that anything was sprayed.

YAY Floramite!


downside......$250 per quart.

$250 wow, i could build a new grow with that, lol
 

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