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@TanzanianMagic @Genghis Kush.

Have you heard about very old fossil pollen found in Namibia ? I didn't know and can't find online, source and link of the study ?

OG @upstate Extremely old pollen has been found in Namibia too. I want to say it was 10000 years old believe it or not But definitely don’t "me on that 1 it was a long time ago that I read it. Somewhere in these threads I posted about it. I recall for sure that it’s the oldest pollen found in Africa. I believe there must be older pollen in Madagascar. I doubt many people if anyone is looking for it.
I’ve always thought that the ancestor to Durban poison could be found in Madagascar…
I should say the ancestor to Mozambique poison could be found in Madagascar

Swazi Red (Afropips)

Extremely old pollen has been found in Namibia too. I want to say it was 10000 years old believe it or not But definitely don’t "me on that 1 it was a long time ago that I read it. Somewhere in these threads I posted about it. I recall for sure that it’s the oldest pollen found in Africa. I...

overgrow.com

 

[Genghis Kush.]

I haven’t heard of ancient pollen in Namibia. I have been searching on line but can’t find any information.
seems to be very little or no research on any kind of ancient pollen in Namibia.

I agree that the roots of Durban poison are in Madagascar .
and that It was spread by people voyaging from south east Asia, many thousands of years ago

Domesticated plants and animals of Austronesia - Wikipedia

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Hey cool thank you for this new Wiki link @Genghis Kush., all confims my theory thought in 2010/11, funny to see Bellwood's up map also in 2011 and new researches since.

I think NLDA source history is comparable to sugarcane so like coconut and banana!

I just look forward to find coconut terps in pure Malagasy rongony zamala or Papua New Guinean or New Caledonian etc ^^

 

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About Namibian old pollen will see with @upstate from Overgrow maybe he will re-found his source but 10K BC or BP old is quite unlikely according last glacial maximum vegetation map! (?)

 

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Tropical grasslands in green ^^

 

[Genghis Kush.]

Hey cool thank you for this new Wiki link @Genghis Kush., all confims my theory thought in 2010/11, funny to see Bellwood's up map also in 2011 and new researches since.

I think NLDA source history is comparable to sugarcane so like coconut and banana!

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I just look forward to find coconut terps in pure Malagasy rongony zamala or Papua New Guinean or New Caledonian etc ^^

I was thinking the same thing about sugar cane , bananas and coconut history being comparable to the spread of NLDA.

10,000 BP may be too far back .
But I think by 6000 BP or earlier long distance trade over the sea was happening .

coconut terps would be awesome!

 

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Yo cheers good vibes to you @Genghis Kush.

Here’s Quaternary Vegetation Dynamics “The African Pollen Database” (2022)

With sadly no cannabaceae datas???
But very interestings things to round the circle around ^^

https://pure.uva.nl/ws/files/70036795/9781003162766_webpdf_5_.pdf

 

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Swaz’ and Moz’ Eswatini Kingdom interesting old influence and cradle example

Related to Madagascar and Austronesian theory IMHO