SOUR DUBBLE INFO THREAD

[iriveru]

Feed more calmag and see what happens.

I almost guarantee it goes away.

Chem D does the same exact thing.

I agree with this, but would like to add that the calcium is only going to increase your overall uptake. Once you’ve supplied sufficient Cal, any deficiencies will be exaggerated so make sure you supply sufficient NPK following.

 

[Hammerhead]

I just recently acquired a sour dubb cut and it has the variegation. I know a lot of you say its not a virus but how can we be so sure if there are over 10 possible virus it could be. I highly doubt anyone has tested for them all.

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Lots of plants have Variegation. I can fix it so it's hard to notice it, it doesn't matter what variety it is. . I only use MAG, I don't add any cal. Epsom salt is all I use.. These plants do not uptake MAG the same as most other plants do. It's a mutation in that gene.

The only way to know if your plants have a virus is to send samples off for a test. Variegation is not a virus. If it's a virus adding MAG would not cure it. Chem D has been improved on the severity by doing the same. The cut today is not nearly as bad as it was.

 

[little-soldier]

Lots of plants have Variegation. I can fix it so it's hard to notice it, it doesn't matter what variety it is. . I only use MAG, I don't add any cal. Epsom salt is all I use.. These plants do not uptake MAG the same as most other plants do. It's a mutation in that gene.

The only way to know if your plants have a virus is to send samples off for a test. Variegation is not a virus. If it's a virus adding MAG would not cure it. Chem D has been improved on the severity by doing the same. The cut today is not nearly as bad as it was.

I grew the variegated chem D before and she was ugly in veg but barely noticed the variagation in flower. The variegation looks an aweful like a mosaic virus and there are quite a few of them so can't rule that out unless you get it tested. Would be pretty expensive to test for all mosaic virus as they can only test for 1 virus at a time and like i said, I highly doubt anyone has ever done this and that its actually possible. Ever heard of a place where they can test for all possible virus? The fact that the variegation almost goes all away with proper feeding could just mean that when you have your plant dialed in, the plant is not stressed anymore but its always present. IDK maybe im crazy but i usually clone in an aerocloner and would be scared that it could spread over time to other cuts in the same aerocloner system.

 

[Hammerhead]

The health of our plants is the most important part of growing. Unhealthy plants are why they get viruses. I can tell if any of my plants were sick.. Veiegation doesn't worry me by itself id be looking for plants that have variegation, curling leaf tips, and one side of the leaf looks out of proportion. All viruses will have more than 1 symptom. None worry me more than hplvd. I've been lucky and have never gotten any virus. These 2 leaves are a good example. The sick plant thread will be more helpful.

Chem D variegation today in veg is not bad at all.

 

[JetLife175]

I agree with this, but would like to add that the calcium is only going to increase your overall uptake. Once you’ve supplied sufficient Cal, any deficiencies will be exaggerated so make sure you supply sufficient NPK following.

You're right. You and hammer are definitely correct. I run a pretty high EC (Athena pro line) and don't see anything on the backend of doing what I stated. But for the most part and most situations I agree.

 

[Hammerhead]

I've been working Sour Dubble Outcrosses since the failed sdubb s1 drama years ago. That and the HK nonsence taught me not to trust anyone. The 1st outcross that IMO was better was DBMH(NEM). Many people do not like what Sdubb looks like after it is dried and bagged and she isn't that potent.. She's been culled in many gardens for this reason. I've always said we should be improving whatever we make, what's the point if that's not our goal? NEM held the spot as the better version for 14 years. To be honest I stopped making anything using sdubb or any of the outcrsses from her when NEM was found.. I recently found another plant from one of my Destiny Outcrosses that is not directly related. She is better than all of the sdubb outcrosses I've made as well as the sdubb clone IMO... It's a cross of Destiny x Sowahh. Patience and selection are important! SDUBB history can be found in this thread. Could Sour Diesel be a major influence in these terps? We know GG#4 has Sdubb in her.

Destiny= (GG#4 x Peanut butter breath) x (A5haze x Mac)
Sowahh= Karma Sour D 2007 x Karma Sour D BX3#A2

She is much more potent, has a killer bag appeal, with Sdubb terps
I just finished revegging her and the 1st cutting was taken to be the mom. The ganja gods blessed me with this find. These pics are of the seed plant. I didn't get that many pics as I wasn't expecting her to show up. I got some mid flower shots. She looks nothing like sdubb. What's interesting is being so far removed and still finding those terps. The other 3 did not have them. I have 2 more in flower now, so I'll see.

 

[budman678]

I had and lost sour dub in 2010

Either way, I really enjoy the poppin beans

Are there any good breeders with sour dub or sd crosses?

 

[iriveru]

I had and lost sour dub in 2010

Either way, I really enjoy the poppin beans

Are there any good breeders with sour dub or sd crosses?

I’m lucky enough to have finally gotten my hands on her, she’s still a baby tho. Peopleunderthestairs does some cool dubb work, I would check him or Top Dawg of course

 

[MrKushman247]

I have recently crossed sour dubb separately with stardawg, Molokai Citrus Kush and mighty mite for outdoor action. Eventually I get to trying them out

 

[iriveru]

I have recently crossed sour dubb separately with stardawg, Molokai Citrus Kush and mighty mite for outdoor action. Eventually I get to trying them out

Sdubb x Stardawg sounds incredible, definitely share some photos when run those

 

[CARE giver]

There are a few guesses what Sdubb is. We will never know.
1. Sour Diesel x Sour Bubble. BOG tells caligreen this at the festival.
2. Sour Bubble x ECSD rez pollen. BOG mentions this in 2005
3. Sour Bubble x NYCD. BOG mentions this in 2014

All three were technically correct ... You know bog lol.

Ive got an 08 SB that shares a lot of resemblance to the Dubb.

 

[Hammerhead]

All three were technically correct ... You know bog lol.
Ive got an 08 SB that shares a lot of resemblance to the Dubb.
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It's the terps of Sdubb that sets it apart from others. NEM passes those terps well. My keeper of Destiny x Sowahh has it as well. I like her better than NEM but she is good breeding stock

 

[CARE giver]

It's the terps of Sdubb that sets it apart from others. NEM passes those terps well. My keeper of Destiny x Sowahh has it as well. I like her better than NEM but she is good breeding stock

Whats the NEM?

Yeah. Im hoping this one has some nice sour lime terps mostly.

 

[Hammerhead]

Whats the NEM?

Yeah. Im hoping this one has some nice sour lime terps mostly.

NEM is my keeper from the DBMH line.

DBMH= DUBBLE BANANA MANGO HAZE

It is made from (OGK x Mango Haze) x (Sour Dubb x C.banana)

 

[CARE giver]

NEM is my keeper from the DBMH line.

DBMH= DUBBLE BANANA MANGO HAZE

It is made from (OGK x Mango Haze) x (Sour Dubb x C.banana)

That sounds very interesting. No bias its an elevated Dubb?

Working your own stuff is just another level of fun. Im doing my first real project as we speak. Laying the foundation. Should only be up from here

 

[Hammerhead]

That sounds very interesting. No bias its an elevated Dubb?

Working your own stuff is just another level of fun. Im doing my first real project as we speak. Laying the foundation. Should only be up from here

NEM is awesome breeding stock. IMO a better plant than Sdubb is. What was interesting is that Destiny x Sowahh also has Sdubb terps. It's pretty far removed from Sdubb. It came from GG#4, which has Sdubb in it.

Destiny = White Truffle x A5hazebx x MAC.. The WT cut was found in Gorilla Butter F2 seeds from fresh coast.

Gorilla Butter F2=(Gorilla Glue #4 x Peanut Butter Breath) x (Gorilla Glue #4 x Peanut Butter Breath).



I just found another plant that has those sdubb terps. She is killer! . NEM passes that trait very well.

Neviles haze x O Haze) x APPSS x NEM

 

[CARE giver]

NEM is awesome breeding stock. IMO a better plant than Sdubb is. What was interesting is that Destiny x Sowahh also has Sdubb terps. It's pretty far removed from Sdubb. It came from GG#4, which has Sdubb in it.

Destiny = White Truffle x A5hazebx x MAC.. The WT cut was found in Gorilla Butter F2 seeds from fresh coast.

Gorilla Butter F2=(Gorilla Glue #4 x Peanut Butter Breath) x (Gorilla Glue #4 x Peanut Butter Breath).



I just found another plant that has those sdubb terps. She is killer! . NEM passes that trait very well.

Neviles haze x O Haze) x APPSS x NEM
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Nice work dude.

You plan to sell any nem and nem crosses?

 

[MrKushman247]

Realized I actually put 1 sour dubb outside. It's growing great. 35 gallons of soil. Nice stout bush she is

 

[CARE giver]

Realized I actually put 1 sour dubb outside. It's growing great. 35 gallons of soil. Nice stout bush she is
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You realized ?

Looking beautiful bro

 

[Hammerhead]

Nice work dude.

You plan to sell any nem and nem crosses?

All have been released over the years. Google will point the way

There's no doubt Sdubb is AWESOME !!

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