When you created s2 did you use s1 sister plants or self a selected s1? Same for s3?
I had been thinking about this in regards to f2ing a fem hybrid a la open pollination style to preserve genetic diversity…
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SOUR DUBBLE INFO THREAD
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I had been thinking about this in regards to f2ing a fem hybrid a la open pollination style to preserve genetic diversity…
-DD
There's only 1 way to make S1, S2, or S3 seeds ..
Sdubb x Sdubb=s1
S1 X S1= s2
S2 X S2=S3
Inbreeding different siblings would be a fem F generation from what I understand. I'm doing this now with (CBanana S1#3 x CBanana S1#1=CBanana F2 fem. ) Also making CBS2 using #1 x #1
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Tynehead Tom
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The sour dubb still eludes me.
It was on a list of cuts availlable to me recently and I put it on my request list but it has not materialized yet.
Wish I lived stateside as the quest would be much easier I'm thinkin.
I have crosses from good breeders I can run so at least some of the dubb shines through. I smoked some in Reno some years ago while I was in the hotel parking lot havin a smoke beside my rental car. Some guys walked buy and threw the hand signals for tokin weed and I just nodded
Followed them for a short walk and the joints were sour dubb, that being my first and only experience smoking it pure and not in a cross. Just left me with the "i want that" feeling ya know?
It was on a list of cuts availlable to me recently and I put it on my request list but it has not materialized yet.
Wish I lived stateside as the quest would be much easier I'm thinkin.
I have crosses from good breeders I can run so at least some of the dubb shines through. I smoked some in Reno some years ago while I was in the hotel parking lot havin a smoke beside my rental car. Some guys walked buy and threw the hand signals for tokin weed and I just nodded
Followed them for a short walk and the joints were sour dubb, that being my first and only experience smoking it pure and not in a cross. Just left me with the "i want that" feeling ya know?
Hmm are u sure ? I was always under the impression that a s1 x say another s1/2 is still a S1 .. s2 generation (f2 fem)
S1 x s2/3= s1
And as far as F1 fem it would need to be two different lines
A F1 fem would have been the original cross feminized the way u described f1 fem is really a IX or incross if u were to use the F1 x a sibling or vice versa
So it would be C banana IX fem not F1
I could be wrong as hell tho
Just because there are two s1 in the mix they can be sister s1 plants not an exact copy of Itself. I'm following what he is saying. I'm not sure if it would be classified as a f1 but I get the gist of it.
I've done line work with OG crossing separate selfed plants together. I think think is what he is trying to explain.
Siblings are not the same plant. Selefed seeds have variations. The more times you inbreed the same plant the less variation there is. Inbreeding 2 siblings will not be considered a selfed gen. There is not much else to pick from.
IX/BX...This is typically used to refer to a filial offspring that is backcrossed into a prior filial, rather than back into the original parent, or when parents share significant genetic overlap. This is not even close.
I was off by a gen. Breeding sister plants refers to the process of crossing two plants that are offspring from the same parent plants, which would be an F2. Since 2 different female siblings are used it doesn't change that 50% will get inherited from ea plant. If it was the same plant(s1) then 100% of those genes get inherited. I fixed my post above
IX/BX...This is typically used to refer to a filial offspring that is backcrossed into a prior filial, rather than back into the original parent, or when parents share significant genetic overlap. This is not even close.
I was off by a gen. Breeding sister plants refers to the process of crossing two plants that are offspring from the same parent plants, which would be an F2. Since 2 different female siblings are used it doesn't change that 50% will get inherited from ea plant. If it was the same plant(s1) then 100% of those genes get inherited. I fixed my post above
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I should have been more clear also I meant I never seen a pack sold as a s2 csi for example had a chem 91 s1 which was a s1 from his own 91 cut but he sold them as s1s
I get how two s1s can be a f2 (s2)
But I’ve just never seen it listed as such like if I find a cut from seed and self it do I call it a s2 or s1 ?
Ive never seen them listed any other way. There's only 1 way to make selfed seeds. The # changes with ea gen produced. AI-GPT-4 works great asking about stuff. It will do the searching part for ya. S2 is made using the same plant it can't be an F gen.
Selfing or Self-pollination is a process where a plant can produce seeds without being pollinated by another plant. It happens when there is a transfer of pollen from an anther (male part) to a stigma (female part). When a plant pollinates itself, all the genes passed down to the offspring come from that same plant. The result of self-pollinating is a population derived from the same parent, known as S1. Then, every generation after that is S2, S3, and so on. The main way breeders do it is by reversing a female plant and using that feminized pollen to pollinate that same plant or its clone.
Selfing or Self-pollination is a process where a plant can produce seeds without being pollinated by another plant. It happens when there is a transfer of pollen from an anther (male part) to a stigma (female part). When a plant pollinates itself, all the genes passed down to the offspring come from that same plant. The result of self-pollinating is a population derived from the same parent, known as S1. Then, every generation after that is S2, S3, and so on. The main way breeders do it is by reversing a female plant and using that feminized pollen to pollinate that same plant or its clone.
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Same. I can trade sour diesel clone only and bunch of seeds.
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Tynehead Tom
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I was recently blessed with these beans from a very generous individual.
Eager to get into those S1's , the sour dubb has been at the top of my "wants" list for 8 years so I was blown away when these were gifted to me.
Eager to get into those S1's , the sour dubb has been at the top of my "wants" list for 8 years so I was blown away when these were gifted to me.
Awesome, hopefully, they still have good germ rates. I'm still hunting S2 to make S3. I'm finding a lot of variegated plants. Sdubb has it but I don't like that trait. I might have to leave some in at this point. Only a few S2 found don't have it,
Resinkings
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I have a Sour Dubble clone. I paid alot of money and my friend (a verified source holding for a long time) told me not to share it at all. I respect his wishes, for anyone else that sees this im sorry.
But I was curious if you had any suggestions on how to really make sour dubble thrive? Im currently running 3 part general hydro with hygrozyme in a recirculating flood and drain setup. Staying around 650-750ppm in veg (2.5ml per gal micro, 2.2ml per gal grow, 1ml per gal bloom, .28oz per gal hygrozyme, as well as 2ml per gal microbial mass every 2 weeks)
But she doesnt break out of the variegation and moves really slow. A friend that gave me her said take her out of the light once in awhile. Been doing that but I really only want to run her and perfect her. Any tips are greatly appreciated
also much respect to you, excited to see any future projects you bring.little-soldier
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I just recently aquired a sour dubb cut and it has the variagation. I know a lot of you say its not a virus but how can we be so sure if there is like over 10 possible virus it could be. I highly doubt anyone has tested for them all.Here are the Sour Dubble s1. You can see 1 of them has the Variegation trait passed on into the s1 seeds.... I have 10-15 s1 going. I think 2 are in flower. Will check later.
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I have a Sour Dubble clone. I paid alot of money and my friend (a verified source holding for a long time) told me not to share it at all. I respect his wishes, for anyone else that sees this im sorry.
But I was curious if you had any suggestions on how to really make sour dubble thrive? Im currently running 3 part general hydro with hygrozyme in a recirculating flood and drain setup. Staying around 650-750ppm in veg (2.5ml per gal micro, 2.2ml per gal grow, 1ml per gal bloom, .28oz per gal hygrozyme, as well as 2ml per gal microbial mass every 2 weeks)
But she doesnt break out of the variegation and moves really slow. A friend that gave me her said take her out of the light once in awhile. Been doing that but I really only want to run her and perfect her. Any tips are greatly appreciated
Feed more calmag and see what happens.I just recently aquired a sour dubb cut and it has the variagation. I know a lot of you say its not a virus but how can we be so sure if there is like over 10 possible virus it could be. I highly doubt anyone has tested for them all.
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I almost guarantee it goes away.
Chem D does the same exact thing.
