Soil vs. Hydro

[cobo]

i never grown before i bought my hydro system , yes expensive to start but with so many grow stores online promising to price match anyone else its the time to buy , look on ebay . nft would be a easy way to start and propely least expensive . as for ease of growing hydro is the dogs bollox for growers , only way to go , just read what soil growers who moved to hydro have to say .. tht says it all . hydro grows quicker and bigger than soil . very little maintanance , clean , no messing about with pots and dirt all over place .


have a look at my 2 systems side by side , the NFT was bought of ebay for 40 pound sterling . which is cheap to start for any grower . you NEED 2 meters for hydro ec/ppm and a PH . Some dont get them and use cheap strip test , but whats the point in that sure you may as well guess . Without meters its easy to fuck up so dont go down that road .

best of luck ,click the link below "cinderellas going to ball to see both my systems side by side

 

[cobo]

check out my first grow , there is video's to watch and down load all about hydro , Greatfor the beginner , shows u how easy it is to us hydro... look for I grow hydro ... very good video

 

[Berry_Coughin']

They each have their benefits....

If it's a plant where I intend to bring the best of flavor/taste... then I'd do soil....

If you want speedy growth and quick clones, fatter buds, go hydro......

I like both and really don't prefer one over the other.....

Soil is cheap....... you can get some black peat, vermiculite, and perlite.... then amend it with the nutrients of your choosing....

Or, you can go get some cheap Walmart soil..... This is simple, cheap and it works.... just don't do too much supplemental feeding, as this soil is loaded with what the plant will want for a few weeks.......

Learned this with the foxfarm ocean blend and lite warrior as well.... + those are reeeeeeally expensive.....

 

[Guest]

my friend said soil grow nugs seem to be more dense while hydro is fluffier.

It's a hard choosing... I'm leaning torwards soil, I doubt it will even be that messy, nothing a broom can take care of.

 

[Berry_Coughin']

Or a small shop vac.... cheap at sears or walmart.... good for cleaning up hydro or soil...

 

[cobo]

my friend said soil grow nugs seem to be more dense while hydro is fluffier.

It's a hard choosing... I'm leaning torwards soil, I doubt it will even be that messy, nothing a broom can take care of.

Your mate is wrong ... lights determin nugs ... hydro is 5 mins every 2 days . change res every 2/4 weeks depending on size might take u 20mins to empty and refill .theses pics show you how fast hydro GROW !

Comparision SHOTS after 12 Days in Systems




NFT


THEN






NOW 12 Days Later











Flood & Drain


THEN






NOW 12 Days Later.













Group shot Then






NOW 12 Days Later









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" NO WAY " will soil compare with Hydro

 

[nycdfan042]

saix there are really cheap hydro systems...i dont know about hydro...i want to learn alos..im going to start with DWC buckets...the thing about hydro you neeed to have a cloner(for making cuttings), a VEG area with a set up there, and a Bloom area.... For dirt you can get away with alot more stuff...yeilds are great(not as good as a well tuned hydro set up), but its way easier and you can grow some really great erb in soil...i do!!

 

[cobo]

here i copied this from this thread

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I downloaded the video “I GROW CHRONIC” last night and it was the best video I’ve seen by far, it shows you how to set up a hydroponic grow room and it makes it seem so easy, will definitely have to try that setup. Download from link, there is many videos on this download so best thing to do is just download “I grow chronic” and uncheck the rest of them; you can download the rest another time if you like.

http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3268301

www.bitlord.com download this first ,then click the link to video above ,

This video is a must for anyone who is even thinking of going hydroponic, so simple even a monkey could do it.

PS..... THAT FAN LOKS A LITTLE OVER KILL FOR UR SET UP.... GET URSELF A SMALL 6" DESKTOP FAN...[/COLOR]

 

[herb weedmen]

hydro vs soil

hydro vs soil

ok i no that the hydro grows faster and in some cases and a higher yeild ,but is it true or just ego's setting the tune..i no i have seen some pritty impressive shit grown in soil as well as hydro..

i guess theres benifits for both methods ..like cost of running a hydro or running out of nutes or ph down ..
and the hassle that soil growing brings with it..like all that soil needing hauled in,or the pathagins that soil tends to carry and all the soil born pest and diseases..

can the benifits from using eather one of these mediums/ methods of growing out do the other to a point it should be the only way considerd ...

i ask these things because i am just short on getting the hydro system set up right and having all that it takes to grow this way..and to keep it running seems more then just a little more on the exspensive side as well as the hassle of trying to keep nutes and all the chems needed to have on hand at all times..i no with soil growing i can just take care of them with the samethings i use in my outdoor grow...

is it possible to grow 10 oz's of bud with soil in a 10 week time table..i no its possible with the hydro set ups ..thats moving clones in when the buds are done a new set of babys get put into bud..


ok now i never mentioned soil-less cocoa core or any other mediums because they would also be harder to keep the chems on hand like the hydro grow is..pritty much the same as growing hydro if the chems or nutes needed are not readily avalible in my area..this is the trouble i have with the hydro set up i am running now ..theres no hydro shops around here ,the closes one is an hr and a half away and my medical troubles keep me from just jumping in the car and going to the hydro store..and i dont use plastic credit,to be able to buy online..

i cant afford a meter ,my nutes are burning the shit out of my plants and i think soil may or should have been my first chose.. ..i no i may have jumped into this a little prematurly but i cant stand dealing witrh crackheads and addics to score my meds..


oh and i have a few q's for you hydro growers..i did find ph down at the home depot store ..its for fish ponds ..i was having trouble getting my ph down and thought i could use this ..it says its safe for plants and fish ..it was 15% citric acid..i tryed using it but i could only get the ph down for a short time then it would go back up..so i dumped all my buckets and started a new recipe for my nutes ..i went real lite on them..i used 1/2 t spoon to a gal the first time and when i changed them out i used 1/2 t spoon for 2 of the 4 gals and straight water with the other 2 gals ..sorry , these are 4 1/2 gal buckets....will or should this help..like i saidi dont have a meter, i am using test strips to test them..

but i would still like to hear everyones thought on the 2 styles of growing ..time lines ,yeilds ,beninfits as well as kicks in the balls from both...

i really do want to keep my hydro set up going ..but i am afraid i may have to go back to soil growing..


thanks everyone and i cant wait to hear what everyone thinks ...my grow depends on it..


herb weedmen

 

[messn'n'gommin']

can the benifits from using eather one of these mediums/ methods of growing out do the other to a point it should be the only way considerd ...
herb weedmen

In my humble opinion, no. Way too many variables to consider. But after that, I think it is a matter of personal preference. What you feel comfortable doing is what you are going to do best. Yeah, soil is easier and hydro produces, but in broad general terms (yes, I know how dangerous that can be) a halfway dialed in grow will yield about 1g/w in hydro and .5g/w in soil. Were it my meds I would grow as much as I could and water cure it.

Namaste, mess

 

[Erestese]

I think if you just take a look at BigToke or Dr. D's thread about the Bio-Buckets you'll see how easy Hydro can be and just how effective it really is.

 

[Mt Toaker]

But like you said, you have all the stuff from growing outdoors and I have 1g/w on indoor soil grows so don't be to discouraged.

 

[Aaronponic]

any system can produce successful grows, what is most important is the person doing the growing and that they pay careful attention to the needs of the plants depending on what system you are using.

Pick one, after you research all, and learn everything you can about that setup. Soon you'll be an expert.

 

[Microwido]

Hydro will produce more bud given an experienced grower. But its lot more expensive and more work. Soil is easy, hard to mess up, but takes say 1/3 longer to produce same amount of weed.

 

[Murphy]

LOL, I only know how to grow hydro. I grew a few in soil and I'll won't do it again unless it's outside. As for the comments on hydro being expensive, I can't say I agree with that especially with the right set up. Cost vs. Yeild vs. Maintance, hydro will win everytime IMO. Also it's much more forgiving for a novice, it takes me 10 minutes to drain my res, in soil you have to flush for days if you overdose something.....which everyone does at some point, some admit it, some won't. Anyway, shit happens, it's easy to fix in hydro, the part that people screw up is they make it harder than it needs to be or they over think it......atleast that's what I found I was doing, I'm sure it's a common novice problem. Flush your plants with PH'ed water for a few days before adding any neuts. Either I'm to high to remember or you didn't mention what type of hydro set up your using?

 

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[Guest]

you do not have to flush if its organic.

 

[herb weedmen]

thanks i am running dwc and i think your right i am over thinking this..i am using the tidycat liter buckets for my bubblers and have 2 plants in each bubbler..each bucket is 4 1/2 gals ..i think if i could just get my ph down i'd be fine..i have trouble finding chems needed to run my set up ...i am using a dry nute mix called maxi series..i am giving them 1/2 t spoon to 2 of the 4 gals..my ph is running at about 7.8 to 8.2.. i have 4 plants i am just about ready to flip my lite to 12/12 on and i no i'll have more trouble with this once i start the bloom nutes ...i am working on ordering ph down from harvest moon but its going to be a few days before i get that..

can anyone tell me if using ph down made for fish ponds will work..its 15% citric acid..says it wont hurt fish or plants.i used a little bit the other day but it went back up in about an hr afterwards..i did get it down to 6.8 using it.it says a capfull will lower the ph in 25 gals.not sure because of the nutes that it holds it down to that ph..my ph is staying hi and i just dont have access to ph down for hydro..theres no stores in my area that carrys it and i've been looking for phosphoric acid but no one carrys that around here eather it seems..i have one bucket i am trying to bring it down using pepsi..as it contains phosphoric acid ...hell i had even considerd using sulferic acid from drain opener to try and lower my ph..i have one plant thats on its way out and i have been doing all my testing on her .. ..


thanks


herb weedmen

 

[CaptainTrips]

Hydro will produce more bud given an experienced grower. But its lot more expensive and more work. Soil is easy, hard to mess up, but takes say 1/3 longer to produce same amount of weed.

Hempy style is 'free' and just as easy as soil... After trying that way, i'd never grow in soil again indoors. My flowering room is going to be e&f, but depending on how it goes I might try hempy style there too.

 

[Murphy]

thanks i am running dwc and i think your right i am over thinking this..i am using the tidycat liter buckets for my bubblers and have 2 plants in each bubbler..each bucket is 4 1/2 gals ..i think if i could just get my ph down i'd be fine..i have trouble finding chems needed to run my set up ...i am using a dry nute mix called maxi series..i am giving them 1/2 t spoon to 2 of the 4 gals..my ph is running at about 7.8 to 8.2.. i have 4 plants i am just about ready to flip my lite to 12/12 on and i no i'll have more trouble with this once i start the bloom nutes ...i am working on ordering ph down from harvest moon but its going to be a few days before i get that..

can anyone tell me if using ph down made for fish ponds will work..its 15% citric acid..says it wont hurt fish or plants.i used a little bit the other day but it went back up in about an hr afterwards..i did get it down to 6.8 using it.it says a capfull will lower the ph in 25 gals.not sure because of the nutes that it holds it down to that ph..my ph is staying hi and i just dont have access to ph down for hydro..theres no stores in my area that carrys it and i've been looking for phosphoric acid but no one carrys that around here eather it seems..i have one bucket i am trying to bring it down using pepsi..as it contains phosphoric acid ...hell i had even considerd using sulferic acid from drain opener to try and lower my ph..i have one plant thats on its way out and i have been doing all my testing on her .. ..


thanks


herb weedmen

A fish store brother! They have small bottles for $5-7, it will work for you until you get you ph in check. I've had to use it, your PH won't flucuate like it did with the powder (I've never tried the powder). I used it on my last res change, I only needed to use Down. I used it by the instructions but they never got me where I needed to be but I can eyeball it pretty well now. At 4 gallon buckets, get the small bottle, you won't need much.