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soil remineralization: process and discussion

habeeb

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^ I have never grown potatoes but that one looked like a monster!

we need more thinking like this..
 

jaykush

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i just pulled a few out today that were at least 3/4 that size. and oh do they taste good.
 
Great info. Thanks for sharing. I have a question for ya. I use a decomposed granite in my landscaping work that is dust to kitty litter sized sounds like it might good to use...what do ya think?
 

Microbeman

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I use rock phosphate and pyrophyllite in aerated compost tea at around 0.063% as a bacteria/archaea promoter. I usually grind the rock phosphate in a coffee grinder.
Melvin; be aware that P inhibits mycorrhizal fungi. IMO the whole P jack up thing at flowering time in relation to organics is fabricated by the commercial bottled fert industry.
 

habeeb

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^ thank you CC,

I will have to check that out as I think silica is more important then we give it credit for. yes I know many companies have silica products, but I sure big blammo super bud gets picked over silica..
 

jaykush

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just a quick rock dust tip

this is what i use to top dress and add rock dusts to compost piles with.

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i got mine at a thrift store for 2$.

jack might like this for his micronization thread.
 
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JackTheGrower

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Doing it right..

Jaykush.. you know that my use to re-mineralize is Azomite.. So what can I do to improve my soil structure?

What other Rock powders would be good for my garden?

I'm open to improve my soil.
 
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JackTheGrower

just a quick rock dust tip

this is what i use to top dress and add rock dusts to compost piles with.

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i got mine at a thrift store for 2$.

jack might like this for his micronization thread.

Absolutely what Trigger release? I'd trade up!

You know rice offers a controlled distribution of powder in a flour sifter.. Put the rice in then dump the powder on top and shake the "Hippie Shake."

Dusting materials over the surface is a real good way to stimulate uniformly.. IMO naturally..
 

jaykush

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So what can I do to improve my soil structure?

What other Rock powders would be good for my garden?

sand! i get mine from a dried creek bed on the property. then it goes into the composting process for a few reasons off the top of my head. when the pile gets real hot, it kills weed seeds that might have been present(even though i sort of like weeds) it helps aeration in the compost pile, and when done the compost can be pretty much used as a potting mix because its more like soil than compost. a lot of work for just sand some might think but the end result is nice and fluffy with a spongy squish to it. plants just love it.
 
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sand! i get mine from a dried creek bed on the property. then it goes into the composting process for a few reasons off the top of my head. when the pile gets real hot, it kills weed seeds that might have been present(even though i sort of like weeds) it helps aeration in the compost pile, and when done the compost can be pretty much used as a potting mix because its more like soil than compost. a lot of work for just sand some might think but the end result is nice and fluffy with a spongy squish to it. plants just love it.

The first thing I thought of is River silt..

Sand that we can buy doesn't sound right.

Not that incorporating rock sand in our perpetual soil isn't right.. it is!!!


Jack
 

habeeb

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sand! i get mine from a dried creek bed on the property. then it goes into the composting process for a few reasons off the top of my head. when the pile gets real hot, it kills weed seeds that might have been present(even though i sort of like weeds) it helps aeration in the compost pile, and when done the compost can be pretty much used as a potting mix because its more like soil than compost. a lot of work for just sand some might think but the end result is nice and fluffy with a spongy squish to it. plants just love it.

beautiful, I've looked at creeks / streams and thought the same thing, you just put your thoughts to action..

you rock jay
 

jaykush

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beautiful, I've looked at creeks / streams and thought the same thing, you just put your thoughts to action..

you rock jay

it took me a while, and when i was in southern california i did not care( my soil was sandyish). now that i have access to the material i need on my own property. its sweet, i love how fluffy and well draining it makes my compost, by far the best benefit.
 

Clackamas Coot

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Jaykush

The 'original' potting soil mix developed over 70 years ago known as the 'Cornel Mix' (from Cornel University) always, always included sand.

The whole perlite thing was a post-WWII phenomenon.

CC
 

jaykush

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another quick remileralization tip. for those collecting natural rock dusts from the mountain streams, sometimes your not always too sure your getting the fine enough powder. heres a little tip to ensure your getting the right stuff.

1.get a watering can
2.get collected rock dust
3.fill can with water
4.put in rock dust
5.stir like mad
6. let settle for 30 seconds
7.water your plants

the reason behind this is the finer particles take longer to settle, the stuff you want will stay in suspension for some time( the really fine stuff for over 24 hours )and end up in your watering process. so the rock particles that are just a wee bit too big settle. dont clog your watering can and can be top dressed or mixed into compost/vermicompost.

if you want to test your rock powder source you can do the same thing with a glass jar, shake like crazy and watch, it will settle in layers, the bigger stuff at the bottom the finest stuff it suspension which will eventually settle showing you layers of particle size.

in a way this sort of recreates the "glacial milk" the hunza people used to water there crops
 

justa waterboy

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i use mountain stream silt, sand and volcano ash i collect myself. i use it for other projects to like masonry. i have been adding it to my soil for a few years now, but did not know if it had the right minarals so i also use azomite. do you think more is better?
i use abought 1 cup per 5 gallons of soil. good timeing on the bump, thanks justa w.
 

maryjohn

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I got some azomite after reading this thread a while back, and I've been just sprinkling it like fairy dust in random fashion, particularly in the worm bin but also top dressing. I wanted glacial rock, but couldn't get it locally.

cruisin for a bruisin? any drawbacks? Worms seem to be grabbing it for grit.
 

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