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SOG question

MTF-Sandman

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Depends on the lighting, strain, size of the plants, space per plant and the environment...it can be done, but you better have your stuff dialed in and be using a good yielding pheno.
 
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i will be using Nirvana's Ice probably under either a 400w hps or a 600w hps. I have a cabinet the same size as a mills pride c24 and i was told i can fit about 15-20 1 gallon pots in there...
 

highasakite

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some would say that the 600-1000 watt lights are great but their not. anything above 400w hps/mh has jacked my plants. that is why there is a 400w club. it's all in the strain like MTF said. a high yielding strain that i got as a freebee is mist of distruction. this plant is a beast i'll show you a picture. and keep in mind that it is in front of my fridge. it goes all the way to the middle of the freezer


 

BabyHughie

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highasakite said:
some would say that the 600-1000 watt lights are great but their not. anything above 400w hps/mh has jacked my plants. that is why there is a 400w club. it's all in the strain like MTF said. a high yielding strain that i got as a freebee is mist of distruction. this plant is a beast i'll show you a picture. and keep in mind that it is in front of my fridge. it goes all the way to the middle of the freezer

wow you could not be more wrong! Sorry to be so blunt but that is straight up misinformation that you posted.

The reason you had bad results with higher wattage lamps is probably because you did not have enough venting/cooling.

Higher wattage lamp = bigger buds

all things being equal, thats just how it works. Light intensity is KEY in this hobby! :joint:
 

MTF-Sandman

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curtisd said:
i will be using Nirvana's Ice probably under either a 400w hps or a 600w hps. I have a cabinet the same size as a mills pride c24 and i was told i can fit about 15-20 1 gallon pots in there...

So is the mother plant a big yielder? Personally I'd plan for around .25-.5 oz per plant in 1 gallon pots in a small cab like that...
 

BabyHughie

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DrawoH said:
sog is not ment to yeild that much ,,, try srog,,,



right, see it just seemed like you were telling him to go for a different method (you mentioned SCROG) because SOG was a low yielding method.

with the right strain SOG will give any method a run for its money in terms of yield and will BLOW THEM AWAY in terms of efficiancy.
 

DrawoH

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if he wants to yeild 1 oz er plant multiple colas per plant or a small bush would be the easiest way to go,,, a typical sog is intended to yeid 7 to 14 grams per plant,,,, i run a cage system ... and kinda do an over grown version of sog,,,, i can yeild 65g per plant with he right strain..... but thats blooming to 12 - 14 inches not 6 or 8... but i do agree that the strain is the most important aspect of yeilding big in a SOG...

a flat sog will not compare to a vert grow,, but yes the GPW in SOG done correctly is very high...
 

BabyHughie

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DrawoH said:
but yes the GPW in SOG done correctly is very high...



All im sayin is that even with a flat SOG, if you have the right strain you can get 1.5 to 2lb per 1k lamp easy. When you factor in the extra crops you can get in, and the $$$ you save on power to veg plants over a year you can't beat SOG.

Thats all. I thought you were telling him to go with a different method. Im just pointing out the benifits of SOG. :joint:
 

supermanlives

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sog kicks ass. you dont need a big light as you dont need the penetration as much cause the plants are short. with other styles of growing you have to figure the veg time in the equation too. so you might yield more per crop but with sog you get more crops.
 

mace_ecam

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you dont need a big light as you dont need the penetration as much cause the plants are short.
i have to disagree

especially in SOG, you will profit from deep pentration.
Unlicke SCroG, where the action is just happening on the top, SOG can utilize light even at the lower parts of the plant.
 

Brastaman

Member
hey curtisd:

Yah man. sog method is a great choice. depending on how much space is available vertically will help determine the size of plant and harvest you will get. Strain is important and lumens of light are two other key ingredients to the formula.
The longer you vegetate your plants the taller they will grow and the bigger cola you should get. Becareful with the one gallon buckets; it might get crowded in their with the root system.

Yeah buddy. One setup I have is a 1000 watt hps in a 4x4 room with no problems. Well the only problem I have is keeping my girls' branches from falling over from the massive amounts of weight of fruit they produce. Give'em more light baby.....
 

highasakite

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i just don't know how any of you do it with bigger lights. i have a tree growing in my other bedroom way better with a 400w/hps than the 600w and the 1000w lights i had.
 

cid420

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where u get cool tube 1k watt for touch over 200 please , i want some, best price i found over 300 ? , and u could have had problems with 1k lights cause your co2 was lacking , or nutes . plants burn though everything faster with higher lumens.
 

BabyHughie

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cid420 said:
where u get cool tube 1k watt for touch over 200 please , i want some, best price i found over 300 ? , and u could have had problems with 1k lights cause your co2 was lacking , or nutes . plants burn though everything faster with higher lumens.

cool tube $80 shipped
bulb $30 shipped
ballast $100 shipped
cord/wirenuts/elecrical tape $30 at local hardware store.

So $240 total for the cooltubed 1k.

You can't just buy a premade kit and expect a good deal. But if you buy the ballast kit, cool tube, bulb, and cord seperate you can save a grip of money.
 

lemonade

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I don't mean to be a douchebag or anything, but IMO there's no way that plant will yeild an LB of dry buds. Also, you say the plant has 1 more month to go, yet one of the pics timestamp reads 01/05?
 

MTF-Sandman

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^^lol...I was kinda thinking the same thing. More like 2-3 oz IMO...

I think you might be confusing ambient temps with radiant temps on the bulbs...I ran an aircooled 1K SOG in a 4x2.5x5 closet for over a year in a climate that stays in the upper 90's with 80-100% RH during summer. It's not the lights that are giving you the problems...it's the environment.
 
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