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So your on a spaceship

St. Phatty

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An important distinction in physics, is what they receive the grant money to try and do, and what they can actually do. Fermilab may well be trying to create wormholes, at the moment they are still theoretical. As soon as they get it to work, there will be news announcements and Nobel prizes knee deep.

Every possibility in every point of time, in every time line, coexists eternally, and is unchanging.


What do you mean by, "get it to work" ?

Like Christian religion's concept of "Heaven", some theoretical physics is just stuff that's pleasant to think about.

It's more evidence that we hairless monkeys try to figure out "the nature of matter", than evidence that we actually figured it out (the wormhole part that is, we're doing alright with fire.)

I worked at SLAC when I was in college and it was kind of fun. Hanging around the theoretical physicists was how I learned to drink coffee. They would drink 20 cups of coffee (with cream and sugar) a day.

Mostly they tried to make particles go faster, and to make particle detectors that flashed light when a particle went through them.

That was actually one of my jobs, making a light-tight plastic cover for their elaborate acrylic light pipes etc. It was a little like protecting Pot plants from light pollution.

They only wanted their photo tubes to see a light flash if there was a particle event. They were super heavy duty into "no light pollution".

If there was a pinhole that let light through ... well generating false readings was normally bad business.
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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Well, theoretical physicists tend to work on computers, whiteboards and scraps of paper. They are more Sheldon than the other guy. Experimental physicists get the majority of grant money, because they " need to build things". The experimental guys get the toys to test theories or put theories into practice.
So any lab, has toys and the experimental chaps. They aren't there to make guesses, they are there to find new stuff, and make ideas into reality.
So when I say "make it work" I mean create a system that proves the existence, harnesses the phenomenon, or create a reliable way to recreate that harness for all who are given access to that technique. Once they can do that, depending on how changed what comes out is from what went in, cars from Germany etc. will be delivered not by boat, but by wormhole. Or at least oil from the middle East and raw materials if stuff is messed up badly. Not that I believe it's a valid theory, but I've been wrong before. Still, if they ever do it, sure it might get covered up so they can send battleships and bombs to other places, but I suspect you'll need equipment at both ends, so military apps, might get noticed. I think the commercial apps are more likely. Anything commercial requires people to know it exists. So I think we'd hear about it.
 
Hmmm, I don't actually believe in wormholes. There again, no one believed in black holes until hawking told them how to find them. An hour and a half at what speed lol, you could be in New Zealand depending on the speed of travel. :)


ER=EPR or 42?
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
Veteran
Ok, I'll try working through that backwards. So if the answer to everything (42) is epr, and if the epr you refer to relates to the containment and study of particle spin, and we are talking about wormholes, then I have to assume that your proposal is that two particles with the same yet opposite spins are one particle zipping back and to via a wormhole. Now if that equals ER, and as an Englishman, I have to assume that's a reference to her majesty, then either the conclusion is, the above formula is a secret revolutionary code, requiring the replacement of the queen with a lookalike, or a suggestion that she travels through wormholes.
How dare you sir!

Now if not, I'm lost, a little help please?
 
Ok, I'll try working through that backwards. So if the answer to everything (42) is epr, and if the epr you refer to relates to the containment and study of particle spin, and we are talking about wormholes, then I have to assume that your proposal is that two particles with the same yet opposite spins are one particle zipping back and to via a wormhole. Now if that equals ER, and as an Englishman, I have to assume that's a reference to her majesty, then either the conclusion is, the above formula is a secret revolutionary code, requiring the replacement of the queen with a lookalike, or a suggestion that she travels through wormholes.
How dare you sir!

Now if not, I'm lost, a little help please?

Well E is for Einstein, https://journals.aps.org/pr/pdf/10.1103/PhysRev.48.73

and well 42 is the answer to everything
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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Man that's a big read, I'll go through it later. I'm still working on time being the root source of gravity ATM. All good fun though.
glad you escaped your space capsule man, good to have you back.:wave:
 

Cuddles

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not to break up the physics chat but...

where is the spaceship actually flying off to? and can you smoke there,do they serve booze etc??
 

unclefishstick

Fancy Janitor
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Man that's a big read, I'll go through it later. I'm still working on time being the root source of gravity ATM. All good fun though.
glad you escaped your space capsule man, good to have you back.:wave:

interesting video explaining the standard model of physics on quantamagazine.org
 

Cuddles

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I was just thinking... will we bump into the Bug or Red Dwarf, or any trekkies? I´m thinking parties :biggrin: and do they do chinese and korean take aways? because that´s a MUST
 

Frosty Nuggets

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I was just thinking... will we bump into the Bug or Red Dwarf, or any trekkies? I´m thinking parties :biggrin: and do they do chinese and korean take aways? because that´s a MUST

Yay for Red Dwarf, we can play drinking games with Lister and share the Marijuana Gin, when we get hungry one of Lister's killer curries, Cat can put on a fashion show, Kryten can keep the place tidy and Holly can be a DJ playing Holrock.
 

Cuddles

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Yay for Red Dwarf, we can play drinking games with Lister and share the Marijuana Gin, when we get hungry one of Lister's killer curries, Cat can put on a fashion show, Kryten can keep the place tidy and Holly can be a DJ playing Holrock.
I prefer chinese (not into curries myself) but maybe Kryton can whip something up :biggrin:
What about Rimmer?
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Does the ship have gravity ?

Air Hockey, Ping Pong, Foosball, Billiards ... they all need gravity.

I wonder if NASA has spent research time, to find some good games that can be played in a gravity free environment. Besides Strip Poker.
 

shithawk420

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Well, theoretical physicists tend to work on computers, whiteboards and scraps of paper. They are more Sheldon than the other guy. Experimental physicists get the majority of grant money, because they " need to build things". The experimental guys get the toys to test theories or put theories into practice.
So any lab, has toys and the experimental chaps. They aren't there to make guesses, they are there to find new stuff, and make ideas into reality.
So when I say "make it work" I mean create a system that proves the existence, harnesses the phenomenon, or create a reliable way to recreate that harness for all who are given access to that technique. Once they can do that, depending on how changed what comes out is from what went in, cars from Germany etc. will be delivered not by boat, but by wormhole. Or at least oil from the middle East and raw materials if stuff is messed up badly. Not that I believe it's a valid theory, but I've been wrong before. Still, if they ever do it, sure it might get covered up so they can send battleships and bombs to other places, but I suspect you'll need equipment at both ends, so military apps, might get noticed. I think the commercial apps are more likely. Anything commercial requires people to know it exists. So I think we'd hear about it.

I'm afraid your wrong sir.they will never tell you anything.fermilab is protected by the government and have a whole military at there fingers.they aren't telling you shit.the Hedron collider itself is at least a billion dollars and the people who work there have to sign contracts to secrecy or they could go to prison.its the real deal jack.it scares the fuck out of me what they could be doing
 

troutman

Seed Whore
Space Pizza must be really tasty with Avatar pepperoni. :woohoo:

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shithawk420

Well-known member
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LMFAO Trout! Where the hell did you find that pic!? That's hilarious! Also just reminded me I'm hungry
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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Shithawk, really? I thought it was just American CERN. still, any practical applications they develop will get seen at some point, just like the drones they call UFO's.
st phatty, the only sport that comes to mind that doesn't need gravity, is darts.
 
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