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Oh yeah 
That might have commercial quality;p How is the smoke?
I'm not quite sure why 2KW couldn't be considered commercial;p If you're runnign it on a steady basis you can harvest 10 kg per year - that's gonna earn you pretty much the same as a full-time job (depending on your job of course) and you'll still have time to work while tending the plants (Although trimming time will be busy but that's what weekends are for)
Also, with a little luck you'll fetch a much better price than the beastie grower + your exposure is low - you're not cutting any serious slice off the market so chances are if you keep it to a single good contact everything will be cool for years.
Depending on where you live a 2KW grow might not even earn you serious jail-time if the shit hits the fan (Obviously do some research here for your own location... running a SOG with 100+ plants under those lights could get really ugly in the US)
That might have commercial quality;p How is the smoke?I'm not quite sure why 2KW couldn't be considered commercial;p If you're runnign it on a steady basis you can harvest 10 kg per year - that's gonna earn you pretty much the same as a full-time job (depending on your job of course) and you'll still have time to work while tending the plants (Although trimming time will be busy but that's what weekends are for)
Also, with a little luck you'll fetch a much better price than the beastie grower + your exposure is low - you're not cutting any serious slice off the market so chances are if you keep it to a single good contact everything will be cool for years.
Depending on where you live a 2KW grow might not even earn you serious jail-time if the shit hits the fan (Obviously do some research here for your own location... running a SOG with 100+ plants under those lights could get really ugly in the US)
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wow im on page 10 got a lot of reading to do
MusicMaker
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TGT said:
many, many thanks for that post
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Actually, Surrey, UK.
all mediums have some form of rootball to toss.... RW u throw away the medium, rootball and all. my SOIL rootballs arnt bad, i re-use all my FFOF...BlindDate said:
but seriouse, even with hydroton u have some material to throw. just dont be scared because ROOTS=BUDS...
ACTUALY, NOT. the whole fucking IP range is in AMSTERDAM.ARTofMAKINGfire said:
http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=217.195.115.146
just ping www.icmag.com in a comand prompt. no tricks, just truth.
That's wierd. My anti-virus/firewall has a website identifier that tells me the location of any server.
I think maybe something is being routed through the UK. Otherwise, why would it come up?
I think maybe something is being routed through the UK. Otherwise, why would it come up?
It may be, I was asking a legitimate question. Man.
zeeba amoeba
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ARTofMAKINGfire said:
You sparked my curiosity with this note. I did some poking around and here's what I found out. First off, the server is located in Amsterdam, and you can verify that by doing a ping like woman says. Another interesting thing to try is tracing the route from your PC to the site. Open up a DOS window (Windows: Start | Run | enter 'cmd' in the text box and press enter). Then enter, "tracert icmag.com". It will return all the IP's along the route to ICMAG. I then did a whois on all these IP's to determine if they are anywhere besides the Netherlands. There's plenty of places to do a whois, such as http://www.arin.net/whois/ .
I found that the first four locations were pretty clearly around my ISP, in Reykjavik, Iceland (j/k). My hunch is that while I'm surfing the internet, my ISP decides which "port of call" to send my request to in their vast network. So my request gets handed off to this server and that server within my ISP, about four in all. So that explains that.
Then it zips straight over to the Netherlands. No intermediate stop anywhere else, not the UK or anything. So I think your anti-virus's mention of ... (I will leave the location you mentioned blank)....has more to do with your ISP than with ICMAG.
I still don't have a definite conclusion one way or the other about security, because on the internet you never really can have such a conclusion, even if you're Microsoft or the Pentagon. Anyone who thinks they know everything probably doesn't. It's just too complicated and my knowledge is pretty thin. I just googled a couple search terms to find about the tracert command. But here's the other thing. There's so many growers on here and they seem legit, and they continue to post on a daily basis, so that says something about security a lot more clearly than your antivirus package or whatever it is. Which I think was just bopping around your ISP prior to hitting ICMAG.
There might be hostile forces from one government or another tracing or intercepting things, especially in today's post 9-11 legal environment. The usual warnings apply about obscuring your personal info. If you remain concerned, one solution would be to access the site from an internet cafe rather than your location. I haven't seen anyone post a message about getting busted because of their ICMAG activity. People have posted threads about busts, but no one has actually pointed the finger to their internet activity yet, as far as I see. If that ever happens then I think it would send shockwaves in a lot of places.
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slipperysamus
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I think this is getting too off topic for some of the more knowledgeable commercial posters...
Out of curiousity, for those working 10k and up, what sorta gm/w are competent folks averaging? High grade. and how frequently?
1.37gm/watt on a 56 day cycle seems to be damn near maxxed out as far as average production goes. or rather,
or rather 3lb/1000w
Out of curiousity, for those working 10k and up, what sorta gm/w are competent folks averaging? High grade. and how frequently?
1.37gm/watt on a 56 day cycle seems to be damn near maxxed out as far as average production goes. or rather,
or rather 3lb/1000w
slipperysamus said:
Good Q Slippery one,
Most people "let things go" a bit when they get a large garden on the go and according to my mate who runs a UK based shop, precious few gardeners of any size manage to grow "High grade" let alone "High grade." ..... i.e. all the time..... many never manage it.
A friend set up a large garden for someone, they should be getting 30k, but, so far have only managed 3k, some might laugh.....I just want to cry, even though it is totally unconnected to me.
Are you asking a Q based on SoG ? From what I have seen a 7x7 PSM gives the highest yield for mainly Indica commercial strains, but on a 10K plus grow you are probably talking over 1,000 plantlets, very hard to get right..... most Commercial Growers I hear about seem to grow larger plants, get slightly lower yield, but with a lot less work and plant numbers.
1.37 gm/w /56 has to be very good for anyone with 10K plus, IMO, but with the love and care you find on smaller setups, more is possible. Most will probably laugh at me, but I reckon 3gm/w is possible with a highly maintained, perfected SoG.... but that would be very hard to replicate on a large scale.
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Evgeni_Malkin
Yes the math is off I was reading off my written notes and I added one too many zeros. So with 25 lights I was expecting around 20,000 grams but if I were to cut that down in half to 10-12 lights I should expect around 10,000 grams right?
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great thread i think a lot of peeps need to ask themselves these ???'s before rushing into a life changing career.
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