Snype's RDWC Construction Tutorial For 250 Watts - 7,600 Watts!

[Snype]

Snype my Canopy temp 78-80, PH 5.7 - 5.9, ppm 500, RH 49-52% light is about 15 inches above plants, The pump is Active aqua commercial pump 110 slm, 600 watt MH light. I have a stone in each bucket and two in the res... I started the veg process with Lucas but since have switched to the GH Adv. DWC schedule. Right now Im running the nuts at approx. 500 ppm... Im about to get a good EC meter so I can be more exact. I have had a hard time gauging ppm going up or down because Ive been frustrated fucking with it too much. However, I have it at 500 right now and Im letting them chill for a few days. Do you have any ideas based on the photos. The plants look like a little old man getting older... Hope this helps.

If you're not going to keep data to know how your PPM acts on a day to day basis, I'm not really going go be able to help you. You're telling me what your PPM is as of right not but according to other posts of yours you were much higher before. You won't even list how much of each bottle that you are using. I can't sit here and play guessing games.

All that I can tell you is to raise your 600 watt light to about 24" away from the tops of the plants until your plants look perfect and then you can lower the light. Also, your humidity is low. I'd raise it to 70% for the temperature that you are at. Also I'd have to assume that if your canopy temps are at 80 degrees than you water temps are probably high. That's one of the reasons why I wanted to see a picture of your roots.

As far as nutes, I'd change out the rez and add:
4 mL General Hydroponic FloraMicro
6 mL General Hydroponic FloraBloom

Those rates are per gallon and pH'd to 6.0. Also add 1 drop of Clorox Regular Bleach for every 2 gallons.

You really need to put a clip board in the room and record your data every 24 hours including:

Stage / Days
Air Temp
Water Temp
24 hour Low and High Humidity
PPM data Before top off
PPM data After top off
pH data before top off
pH data after top off
height of plants
distance from bulb to canopy
anything you did or added to the rez
any other notes that you can think of

If you want to learn how to get better, you'll have to put in the work. If you're not going to keep data, you may want to consider going back to soil.

 

[salgado]

Snype Id say thats going to be the ticket. As soon as I raised the light to 24" I realized just how close the light was even at 15" I must have been toasting them. I will change out the res today and keep updating with pics. I have a feeling these will bounce back over the course of this afternoon substantially? Better records coming soon as well... THANKS

 

[Snype]

Snype Id say thats going to be the ticket. As soon as I raised the light to 24" I realized just how close the light was even at 15" I must have been toasting them. I will change out the res today and keep updating with pics. I have a feeling these will bounce back over the course of this afternoon substantially? Better records coming soon as well... THANKS

You have to be real careful about adding stress when growing in RDWC. You have already stressed the plants from the light begin so close and probably your nutes, temps and humidity. You're asking for trouble seeing so many different forms of stress. It only take a little stress for root rot to set in and destroy your whole crop. You have to be very anal about details when growing in RDWC. Good luck!

 

[ChemDoubleDs]

I'll be on top of the data the whole time. I've made up a chart that includes everything listed above and it'll be filled out everyday. I'm confident that I'll get a hang of feeding them. Definitely going to start low and try and follow your schedule while at the same time responding to what my plants are asking for. Can't lose those precious ChemDD flavors.

There are so many little things in your previous logs that can be applied and they are all simple procedures (amount of lighting, rearranging of branches, reflector height) but they seem to be asked about over and over.I figured you kept the system running while adding nutes as a way of mixing. Will let the system equilibriate for a good 15 mins before taking measurements. .

 

[salgado]

You have to be real careful about adding stress when growing in RDWC. You have already stressed the plants from the light begin so close and probably your nutes, temps and humidity. You're asking for trouble seeing so many different forms of stress. It only take a little stress for root rot to set in and destroy your whole crop. You have to be very anal about details when growing in RDWC. Good luck!

I see that. I'd hate for a loss to happen and I think I'll catch this. But I'm DEFINITELY learning a ton. If I get them healthy at this point will this early stress be detrimental to end result?

 

[Snype]

I'll be on top of the data the whole time. I've made up a chart that includes everything listed above and it'll be filled out everyday. I'm confident that I'll get a hang of feeding them. Definitely going to start low and try and follow your schedule while at the same time responding to what my plants are asking for. Can't lose those precious ChemDD flavors.

There are so many little things in your previous logs that can be applied and they are all simple procedures (amount of lighting, rearranging of branches, reflector height) but they seem to be asked about over and over.I figured you kept the system running while adding nutes as a way of mixing. Will let the system equilibriate for a good 15 mins before taking measurements. .

I add my nutes with the system on. It takes less than 10 minutes for the system to completely recirculate. To be safe, I take my readings 15-30 minutes after adding anything to the rez / control bucket.

I see that. I'd hate for a loss to happen and I think I'll catch this. But I'm DEFINITELY learning a ton. If I get them healthy at this point will this early stress be detrimental to end result?

There's no way to tell what is going to happen. Your plants can go looking perfect to completely dead within a couple of days. The pH will usually tell you when you are starting to have problems.

Just because your plants may look good after a few days from the stress, doesn't mean that you are in the clear. You'll know when you'll in the clear when you harvest.

 

[salgado]

Ok I gave them two days under higher lights and more humidity. They are looking much better. Just changed the res and did as you suggested. 4. Micro 6 bloom. That took the Ppm down to 350. Now I'm going to let them sit and chill there for a while. They are definitely on the mend.

Seperate question

If I started with feminized seeds, is it possible to get males or herms from stressing them out early?

 

[Snype]

Ok I gave them two days under higher lights and more humidity. They are looking much better. Just changed the res and did as you suggested. 4. Micro 6 bloom. That took the Ppm down to 350. Now I'm going to let them sit and chill there for a while. They are definitely on the mend.

Seperate question

If I started with feminized seeds, is it possible to get males or herms from stressing them out early?

Glad that things are working out. It's always possible to get herms with any type of seed. You'll be fine though.

 

[ChemDoubleDs]

What's up man? Still waiting to see substantial roots before I transfer them to the tray. Hoping by this weekend they will be ready. I don't have the luxury of being with them every day since I am finishing up my last semester and the system is not at this location, but I will have access to the data throughout and will be traveling there for all transplanting times and whenever else possible. I feel confident that I will still see good results though, as my partner takes this just as seriously as myself.

I thought it was pretty funny when I showed up to class yesterday and found out that I will be the group leader for an experiment involving pH control of a system using electronic controllers which control pneumatic valves to vary the outlet flow of the reactor and inlet flow of base. Not sure if you know much about controllers but they are basically what allows power plants to run smoothly without having to manually turn valves all day by performing a measurement upon a given output variable which controls an input variable that you have a desired value for (pH of the system). I'm definitely gonna learn a lot about it within the next few weeks so I think it's gonna be a great connection to the operation of the RDWC system that I'll be starting around the time that I'm presenting to my class about the experiment

 

[Smplfrmr]

How's it

How's it

How is the grow going Snype you have to be close... A week? Well I built another system, if you get a chance check out my thread.

 

[Smplfrmr]

Here's a peak

Here's a peak

Pictures. I'd love an opinion... I don't think anyone reads my thread anymore.

 

[Snype]

What's up man? Still waiting to see substantial roots before I transfer them to the tray. Hoping by this weekend they will be ready. I don't have the luxury of being with them every day since I am finishing up my last semester and the system is not at this location, but I will have access to the data throughout and will be traveling there for all transplanting times and whenever else possible. I feel confident that I will still see good results though, as my partner takes this just as seriously as myself.

I thought it was pretty funny when I showed up to class yesterday and found out that I will be the group leader for an experiment involving pH control of a system using electronic controllers which control pneumatic valves to vary the outlet flow of the reactor and inlet flow of base. Not sure if you know much about controllers but they are basically what allows power plants to run smoothly without having to manually turn valves all day by performing a measurement upon a given output variable which controls an input variable that you have a desired value for (pH of the system). I'm definitely gonna learn a lot about it within the next few weeks so I think it's gonna be a great connection to the operation of the RDWC system that I'll be starting around the time that I'm presenting to my class about the experiment

Sounds good!

Pictures. I'd love an opinion... I don't think anyone reads my thread anymore.

Looks cool. Your opinion is the only one that counts because only you know how good your system is functioning. I wouldn't be so concerned who reads or doesn't read your thread. It should be used for your own documenting and data purposes.

 

[Smplfrmr]

I like it

I like it

Sounds good!



Looks cool. Your opinion is the only one that counts because only you know how good your system is functioning. I wouldn't be so concerned who reads or doesn't read your thread. It should be used for your own documenting and data purposes.

But the proof is in the pudding. So we shall see what kind of pudding we get. The reason I post is the whole shared knowledge concept of blogging. Sadly it seems most of the posts are glad handing or the opposite some kinda troll attack lol. Just would like to see more back n forth idk Mabry I'm just bored.

 

[ChemDoubleDs]

After 15 days in the EZ Cloner I have transplanted the best 15 cuts into the 15 site Botanicare tray. I currently have the light about 20" from the plants which range from 2-3". I used the same formula listed in part 2 of the BYTCH grow proportioned to 16 gallons. It came out to:

67.8 mL GH Flora Micro
101.8 mL GH Flora Bloom
0.48 mL Regular Clorox Bleach

I added about 1 mL pH down to achieve a pH of 6.0. The ppm is at 560. Temperuture ranges from 70-77F, humidity 25-30%. I'll be adding a humidifier into the room to achieve a humidity around 50-60% to match with the chart I saw on one of your albums.

I started by flooding every six hours but that seems to have been a bit long of a wait for a few of the plants that had less roots so I have switched it to every 4 hours. Gonna keep a close eye on them to see when it looks like I can water more frequently. Here is a picture of one of the better rooted clones, along with the entire bunch inside the cloner.

I'm pretty happy with the results I got for my first try at cloning in Aeroponics. Next time I'll make sure my MOMs have a perfect runoff pH before taking my cuts. Also, I will start with the GH dual diaphragm air pump (20 Lpm), since that really seemed to increase root development when added it in place of the 7.8 Lpm-rated pump.

 

[Snype]

After 15 days in the EZ Cloner I have transplanted the best 15 cuts into the 15 site Botanicare tray. I currently have the light about 20" from the plants which range from 2-3". I used the same formula listed in part 2 of the BYTCH grow proportioned to 16 gallons. It came out to:

67.8 mL GH Flora Micro
101.8 mL GH Flora Bloom
0.48 mL Regular Clorox Bleach

I added about 1 mL pH down to achieve a pH of 6.0. The ppm is at 560. Temperuture ranges from 70-77F, humidity 25-30%. I'll be adding a humidifier into the room to achieve a humidity around 50-60% to match with the chart I saw on one of your albums.

I started by flooding every six hours but that seems to have been a bit long of a wait for a few of the plants that had less roots so I have switched it to every 4 hours. Gonna keep a close eye on them to see when it looks like I can water more frequently. Here is a picture of one of the better rooted clones, along with the entire bunch inside the cloner.
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I'm pretty happy with the results I got for my first try at cloning in Aeroponics. Next time I'll make sure my MOMs have a perfect runoff pH before taking my cuts. Also, I will start with the GH dual diaphragm air pump (20 Lpm), since that really seemed to increase root development when added it in place of the 7.8 Lpm-rated pump.

Nice! Figuring out the flood cycles for VEG-A can be a little tricky for the first few days. If you do it right, the roots will take off a lot faster. It'll probably take you a little time to get used to. Once the roots really get going you can flood more often like in that thread. That thread should have all the information that you need for VEG-A but you want to pay attention to what is going on because small things may be a little different that could end up changing some things like your flood cycle.

I could see you flooding every 4 hours right now. It makes sense. You'll probably be able to get down to every 3 hours after the first few days.

Also, it's good that you know the PPM of your start solution. You'll see how slow or how fast they uptake those nutes in the rez. when you see the PPM going down too fast, you can add more nutes with the same ratio of 1 part Micro to 1.5 parts bloom. Like 10 mL Micro and 15 mL Bloom or how ever much you may need. Maybe you'll need to go up to 700 PPM in a week but your PPM data will show you.

The pots that I use don't fit all the way into the holes of the lid so the solution barely hits the pots. Because of that I hand dunk the pots into the REZ every 12 hours for the first few days. I'm assuming that your pots fit better than mine so you don't have to worry about that.

Anyway, you seem like you're off to a good start. Hope it all goes smooth for you.

 

[salgado]

hows that for recovery????

hows that for recovery????

Snype thanks for the good advice, hows that for a recovery? I do have a few basic questions Im having a tough time understanding a few things so please bare with me...

As for topping off the res, how often or when should I top it off. Should I top it off with a nute solution that is the same ratio as the original res or should I top it with plain water? Either way this would affect the PPM how do I account for that and know exactly where my actual ppm is? Also, when should I start upping the ppm's and lowering the light a bit? Right now the light is still at your recommended 24 inches above the plants and the PPM's are at about 350+/-

Thanks again

 

[salgado]

that photo of the single plant is the one that looked about dead last week....

 

[salgado]

FYI this is some nuggetry from my last harvest...

 

[Snype]

Snype thanks for the good advice, hows that for a recovery? I do have a few basic questions Im having a tough time understanding a few things so please bare with me...

As for topping off the res, how often or when should I top it off. Should I top it off with a nute solution that is the same ratio as the original res or should I top it with plain water? Either way this would affect the PPM how do I account for that and know exactly where my actual ppm is? Also, when should I start upping the ppm's and lowering the light a bit? Right now the light is still at your recommended 24 inches above the plants and the PPM's are at about 350+/-

Thanks again

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All your answers are in my threads. I feel like you want me to spit out answers but you don't want to do any reading. The question has been asked and answered many times.

You can start by reading:
Snype's Guide To RDWC - Part 2 - Featuring ChemdogDD & 4,000 Watts!
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=296730

Pay attention to the data that I keep. The data shows me how to feed the plants. Your data that you keep will also show you how to nute your plants.

 

[salgado]

All your answers are in my threads. I feel like you want me to spit out answers but you don't want to do any reading. The question has been asked and answered many times.

You can start by reading:
Snype's Guide To RDWC - Part 2 - Featuring ChemdogDD & 4,000 Watts!
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=296730

Pay attention to the data that I keep. The data shows me how to feed the plants. Your data that you keep will also show you how to nute your plants.

Thanks for that...