SMALL HITS ARE BETTER THAN BIG ONES!

[Chamba]

and now for hair splitting.........

eg comparing one half gram hit or five x 0.1 gram hits taken immediately one after the other..

which method uses less overall?.....smaller hits over time of course...as you will probably stop at two or three smaller hits

I find that with several little hits compared to the same amount hit in one massive bowl....the smaller hits seem to be more economical and efficient..and hit me the same or slightly better

with massive hits, my lungs don't seem to absorb it all as efficiently as several smaller hits do....but it is more time efficient..but it would be nice to be an Indian Sadhu, Sam the Skunkman, Bob Marley or some rich assdd rock star and have unlimited supplies of ganja or hash..then I'd be toking massive hits too...not mucking around with itsy-bitsy hits to get the most out of it and make it last longer lol

which hits harder? ...probably smaller hits taken one after another as they are utilised/absorbed/processed more efficiently in the lungs , but there's not that much in it, that's if the big hits are not overly big...

Happy dry sifting and Happy toking...........

 

[budvapor]

this really turned out to be a fascinating thread! there are so many variables! obviously the material you use will make a huge difference. but it probably varies from individual to individual as well (lung capacity, altitude, diet, exercise come to mind for example...)

in general though, all things being equal, the amount of good stuff you absorb is probably the same whether you take one big hit with all the material or several smaller hits. if you absorb say 30% of the good stuff per hit, then that's 30% of it at once or 30% of each smaller hit which adds up to the same...

then the question is whether the effect of the same amount of psychoactives hits you harder all at once or over a few minutes via multiple smaller hits.

of course the one big hit hits you all at once, hence the stronger immediate effect. i also wouldn't be surprised if the effect of one big hit is stronger still because it doesn't give the body a chance to adapt to the flood of psychoactives. could there be some kind of down regulation of the absorption after each hit? i guess it could also be the opposite in theory, but my limited knowledge of biology indicates a pattern of self down regulation in general, so i would bet on the former.

i had made a comment earlier about preferring several small hits in general. that's for when i don't want to get ripped, which is most of the time for me due to various responsibilities. when i don't mind getting f'ed up, in my experience, the bigger the hit the better!!

so many unanswered questions! i hereby volunteer my body for scientific experimentation... which i will proceed to begin immediately

 

[arjanz hays]

Sam, thanks for taking the time to stop and stoop on this one..
I agree with you on your first point regarding cannabinoid profile and high being chiefly determined by genetic psychoactive constituents. We all grow/smoke dif strains for this reason. Certainly with different methods of smoke inhalation, the only difference is indeed quantitative not qualititive. The profile of the combustion release is of course the same. So we have no argument there.

On your point concerning vaporization of cannabinoids, the compound boiling point of cbd is 187-90c, cbn 185, while for thc its 155-157. Therefore, when vaporizing at lower temps the profile of cannabinoids in the vapor will be different. In addition, harmful, non-cannabinoid chemicals such as benzine start to be released at about 195c. So it is indeed true that you can get a more THC and terpene-laden hit as opposed to smoking.
Your point about decarboxylation is a good one. However, it has been shown (Abrams) that thc can be absorbed through the lungs quicker with vapeing (higher blood plasma thc concentrations are found). So if i take the biggest charge i can of both, the vapor hit will be better absorbed. Consequently, if the vapor is thick enough it will get u more blasted.

Finally, the proof is in the pudding. When i do not have access to a heat gun and can only hit a bong, i get really high in a different way, but not AS high. (I also find other vapes totally lacking.) When i get back to the super-charged vapor bong hits, the volume of thc i can get into my system puts me right out there. Most friends who have tried it agree.
Not trying to pick a fight with Tyson here, and i appreciate we all have our styles. By the way, smoking Sam's bubble through his 20gram bowl hookah woulds probly get me more mashed than anything!

 

[Matt_ak48]

if im alone I smoke small hits if im in a big groop I take huge rips to ensure the fact that I get high

 

[Limeygreen]

Big hits get me much much higher, I would load up a bowl in a bong as much as I could pull in one hit and kept building up how much I could take at one time and I could do this for hours on end and each time I took the new rip I would become even higher, herb dependent of course it had to have a high ceiling or no ceiling. Small hits I only used to conserve which were more of a piss off than anything, only last about 20 mins or so then you want more. This is my experience anyways.

 

[dude06version]

i like variety.. some sessions i just feel like taking 1 or 2 big rips that leave you coughing for like 5 minutes then your good..sometimes i wanna take small puffs and enjoy the come up...

 

[Chamba]

coughing your guts out is wasteful

if you inhale smoke and then cough it out means you are wasting half or more of it and are not fully absorbing the active ingredients in the smoke..what a waste!

if the smoke is harsh or expands in your lungs to the point where you cough your guts out,...then just inhale smaller amounts so you don't cough

many smokers just don't know how to smoke efficiently ......

The How to Smoke Cannabis for beginners Method

here's a method I've used to help first time cannabis smokers inhale without coughing and sputtering is sit up with a straight back, chin up, inhale a lung full of fresh air, let your stomach expand as you inhale, then exhale your lungs fully as your stomach sucks in.....(do this several times)......as you reach the piont at the end of the exhale light the pipe and inhale the smoke, again letting your stomach expand as you inhale.....this method helps reduce the cough and expansion...and in turn helps you hold the smoke in your lungs long enough so you can fully absorb it......I've amazed many people who have tried smoking bud a few times but coughed so hard they were almost put off smoking forever...after learning the simple above method, then doing a few dry runs, they were able to inhale smoke, never cough and get high...the secret is to not let them inhale too much smoke at first.

Happy (cough free) inhaling

 

[NorCalChron]

pack.. snap.. repeat..

if you pack a hit you cant finish all at once streamline smoke is being wasted so yes.. small hits are more efficient compared to a gram bowl or a nice blunt even. I can snap up to .7 maybe more but thats all i am willing to try

coughing isnt exactly wasteful.. it opens up the capillaries and can get you str8 ****ed up

 

[Chamba]

if you really think that coughing your guts out makes you higher.,.....please continue..but to humor of the rest of us and for posterity's sake, please email your name and technique to the Darwin Awards...lol

while some strains tend to induce some expansion and coughing if you take in too much ...on the whole, coughing is nature's way of telling you to grow better and cure better/longer.

and if you are buying it from a dealer (you silly buggers!), then it's nature's way of telling to grow your own 'cos the grown for cash shit you are buying and smoking is full of chemicals, insecticides, poisons and overdose amounts of ferts..as well as rushed to market without a proper lengthy cure....


for Happy lungs, grow your own!

 

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Im not sure i agree because if i hit one nice sized bong all at once in my 4 footer glass bong its would get me alot more stoned than if i used the same amount twice, because i get a huge amount of thc running through my blood stream all at once, rather than two small boosts of thc...

 

[Chamba]

page 1 ......that theory would make sense if the effects of the hit lasted only 5 seconds


but anyway, it's what you feel is best that counts!

 

[NorCalChron]

if you really think that coughing your guts out makes you higher.,.....please continue..but to humor of the rest of us and for posterity's sake, please email your name and technique to the Darwin Awards...lol

while some strains tend to induce some expansion and coughing if you take in too much ...on the whole, coughing is nature's way of telling you to grow better and cure better/longer.

uhh no, how could you never have experienced this? Take a full size rip and hold then cough. You go crazy and it feels like your lungs are burning but smoke gets to places in your lungs it would never get to. Some strains are obviously more potent than others and have more lung "expansion" but in general holding your hits for more than 3 seconds does jack shit.