Slownickel lounge, pull up a chair. CEC interpretation

[growingcrazy]

First, holy fuck on the fees...

Getting a greenhouse up to code for a dwelling will be interesting to hear about. Does it sound like they are going to enforce mechanicals? A bathroom in the greeny would be nice...lol

Looks like I am heading west for a few years to gain some experience in the industry before MI blows up... Now where to go...

 

[EasyGoing]

Not sure if this link will work, it's part of my personal google docs.......

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...mpPFAIEGQsjkX3tVg524/htmlview?usp=gmail#gid=0


I already have one greenhouse as a dwelling unit..... They thought they were sticking it to me, making me do extra engineering. However with the current regulations, I will be able to grow 200 plants in my greenhouses. The county banned outdoor grows over 12 plants...... lol. Dummies didn't realize med recommendations superseded Prop 64, so if your doctor says you need 100 plants, then you get 100 plants. They can say you can't grow them outside, but state law minimum must allow plants to be grown inside..... So yea, I specked my greenhouse as a live in structure, suckers!

 

[EasyGoing]

btw, no permit fees if you have a doc rec. This model ends 1 year from licences being give out however. So take advantage while you can people. This is huge if you understand it.

 

[paradoxlost]

How much are soil tests,from spectrum usually,run. S3

 

[slownickel]

How much are soil tests,from spectrum usually,run. S3

Paradox, are you in a medium? If so, you don't want the S3, you want the K-3 it is not listed on their webpage.

If you have a media mix, sift it lightly and then send in the fine small stuff.

Call them and ask the price, I don't remember. Somewhere around $50 if I am not mistaken.

 

[TheOutlawTree]

Damn I've got lots of reading to do to catch up on this thread, theres never enough time.

Its funny how California calls it regulation / legalization but most county's are only handing out enough permits to cover 5-25% percent of the active cannabis farms in that county. Yuba county supervisors tried to get a 'state of emergency' declared because of all the farms that keep popping up.

 

[EasyGoing]

All state of emergency means is extra funding..... Tree fell, state of emergency....... Dropped a spaghetti stain on my shirt, state of emergency!

Happy Thanksgiving everybody!

 

[paradoxlost]

Paradox, are you in a medium? If so, you don't want the S3, you want the K-3 it is not listed on their webpage.

If you have a media mix, sift it lightly and then send in the fine small stuff.

Call them and ask the price, I don't remember. Somewhere around $50 if I am not mistaken.

Interesting, why is in not on the website?

 

[hyposomniac]

Hi, I will ask again, because I think I'm on a lot of ignore lists after the cheese wiz incident (but I'm feeling much better now!)
So, the guidelines say do not fertilize for a month before test..
Now I have mid veg plants.. not fertilized per se, but fed w/ pH down and a pinch of gypsum.
Should i flush w water before drying and sifting??
Flush?, dry, sift, weigh to 100g.

 

[slownickel]

Hi, I will ask again, because I think I'm on a lot of ignore lists after the cheese wiz incident (but I'm feeling much better now!)
So, the guidelines say do not fertilize for a month before test..
Now I have mid veg plants.. not fertilized per se, but fed w/ pH down and a pinch of gypsum.
Should i flush w water before drying and sifting??
Flush?, dry, sift, weigh to 100g.

Just sift and send. No worries about recent fertilization. Try not to get a handful of gyp though.

 

[hyposomniac]

Just sift and send. No worries about recent fertilization. Try not to get a handful of gyp though.

Ok thanks. Are we doing 100grams for a k3?
Also I have a meeting with an old friend this weekend about his land in a good state... Hemp!

 

[slownickel]

Ok thanks. Are we doing 100grams for a k3?
Also I have a meeting with an old friend this weekend about his land in a good state... Hemp!

100 grams is plenty.

Pick your state wisely. Yields are all over the place, 500 lbs/acre upto 7,000 lbs to the acre. Prices too are all over the place....

 

[Rolando Mota]

You have to go big to get into the hemp game. Been talking to the father of my kid’s classmate, his company is focusing on processing hemp for cbd. They already have labs in or and co and are currently in the middle of a $10mil buildout in Sacramento. Now looking at property in Australia and Italy for labs to serve Europe and Asia. Listening to him talk about the scale of the international hemp market is pretty amazing.


What’s the difference between the k3 vs c3 tests?

 

[slownickel]

You have to go big to get into the hemp game. Been talking to the father of my kid’s classmate, his company is focusing on processing hemp for cbd. They already have labs in or and co and are currently in the middle of a $10mil buildout in Sacramento. Now looking at property in Australia and Italy for labs to serve Europe and Asia. Listening to him talk about the scale of the international hemp market is pretty amazing.


What’s the difference between the k3 vs c3 tests?

Not sure about the going big thing for hemp is so necessary.

A smart small farmer with automatic planters, plugging into mulch at high densities, spraying/cultivating/weeding with small vineyard tractors just like small grape growers is what I see happening.

A good facility should be working with growers. Growers can make good money selling to local facilities, just that it needs to be looked at like a business. Those agreements need to be in place BEFORE one plants, part of ones due diligence. I spoke to guys funding, processor/growers, etc at the Vegas show. I hit them all. The biggest problem, low production, low quality and for some reason, which I think I know why, they can't get the % of actives that are tested for in their results in terms of yields, a loss factor which VARIES depending on the grower! That is a big clue. The same as sugar cane in all parts of the world. No matter what you do to some cane, you can't get all the sugar out and it has too much garbage tied to the sugars to make white sugar, resulting in brown sugar, rum and ethanol. It really is funny how a lot of the issues that this industry is facing are the same as in many other fruit/veg/sugar/tobacco. It will be capital intensive though.

The C 3 is a compost test. I think there is a description on their site. I use it on manures, composts and even inputs like soluble amino acids.

K-3 is a soil analysis using 2 different process, different extraction methods, nitrogen and conductivity.

 

[Rolando Mota]

Ok that is confusing, I see c3 listed for greenhouse media testing.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a microbial amendment/inoculant for acreage? Most get pretty expensive at a larger dosage.

 

[theJointedOne]

cbd from low thc cannabis is much more preferred over hemp derived cbd

 

[slownickel]

Oh Jointed,

Please continue....

 

[theJointedOne]

hemp is best for fibers and other products derived from the vegetive matter.

cannabis sativa is best for cannabinoids.

 

[paradoxlost]

Not sure about the going big thing for hemp is so necessary.

A smart small farmer with automatic planters, plugging into mulch at high densities, spraying/cultivating/weeding with small vineyard tractors just like small grape growers is what I see happening.

A good facility should be working with growers. Growers can make good money selling to local facilities, just that it needs to be looked at like a business. Those agreements need to be in place BEFORE one plants, part of ones due diligence. I spoke to guys funding, processor/growers, etc at the Vegas show. I hit them all. The biggest problem, low production, low quality and for some reason, which I think I know why, they can't get the % of actives that are tested for in their results in terms of yields, a loss factor which VARIES depending on the grower! That is a big clue. The same as sugar cane in all parts of the world. No matter what you do to some cane, you can't get all the sugar out and it has too much garbage tied to the sugars to make white sugar, resulting in brown sugar, rum and ethanol. It really is funny how a lot of the issues that this industry is facing are the same as in many other fruit/veg/sugar/tobacco. It will be capital intensive though.

The C 3 is a compost test. I think there is a description on their site. I use it on manures, composts and even inputs like soluble amino acids.

K-3 is a soil analysis using 2 different process, different extraction methods, nitrogen and conductivity.

The biggest problem in Vegas is that since they are regulating it like alcohol the perception is the business is just like the alcohol game: a standardized process that just needs to be tweaked to get different results.

When in reality this is agriculture and is more like growing poppies than anything else.

 

[slownickel]

The biggest problem in Vegas is that since they are regulating it like alcohol the perception is the business is just like the alcohol game: a standardized process that just needs to be tweaked to get different results.

When in reality this is agriculture and is more like growing poppies than anything else.

Not just Vegas! Yields and quality are pretty poor just about everywhere. Those that are in the know realize just how bad it really is out there, lots of poor quality. A bunch of us are getting spoiled! Don't want anything but the good stuff... anyone else feeling that way! LMAO

Perceptions are based on ones reality, reality has changed hasn't it!

Those that have recently witnessed the new reality are left with jaws open and wanting to know more (and smoke more).

Garbage in garbage out or at least low yields if running isolates, terps etc... The new reality is quality and yield, those that learn to swim instead of sink will make it. This is a business where there is a 700% variation for the best over the worst. Work it guys (and gals)!

I heard averages of hemp producing 500 lbs to the acre in Colorado, all the way up to 7,000 lbs! That typifies the difference in growers and conditions.