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Skunk bad for us?

sac beh

Member
They found that the patients were seven times more likely to have smoked skunk than ordinary cannabis or hash – and that was on top of the increased risk associated with heavy use of the weaker variety of the drug.

In addition, the patients were 2 times more likely to wear briefs instead of boxers and 5 times more likely to shit in the morning rather than at night. The most shocking finding was that 100% of patients grew up in paranoid, warring societies that generally discourage individual creativity and use the threat of force to submit the general population to lives of rot tasks aimed at accumulating just enough material possessions to feel content in an otherwise empty existence.

When asked whether this last finding might be a more important factor than skunk, Dr Marta Di Forti stated, "Chicken and egg, man, the chicken and the egg. Do you know which came first? Well I'll tell you... it was the omelette. And it just so happens that these patients were 3 times more likely to prefer an omelette for breakfast than scrambled eggs. So in answer to your question, its clear that skunk is the largest factor here."
 

sx646522

Member
...And it just so happens that these patients were 3 times more likely to prefer an omelette for breakfast than scrambled eggs. So in answer to your question, its clear that skunk is the largest factor here."

Ha!

Obviously, omelettes cause schizophrenia and psychosis, and should be avoided at all costs. Make omelettes illegal! They're obviously much stronger nowadays than when I was a kid.

Coincidence? I think not.

;)

-SX

P.S. People were dying of cancer from smoking tobacco a lot further back than 50 years ago. We simply have better medical knowledge now than in the past (and, the information is less suppressed...), and have attributed a name to the causality. That (i.e. a higher incidence of cancer from smoking) will happen whether you're using chemical ferts, or no.
 

Pinkladyeater

Active member
Those kinds of people probably think that you can overdose and die from weed too. They are just brain washed or scared that we are right and everything they've been made to think is all wrong.
 
yeah i think alot of people have hard times coming to terms with the fact that the government lies about cannabis.. and they dont want to let go of the notion that big brother is here to protect and help us when really the truth is big brother is a bunch of rockefeller oligarchical banker-types who hold the population as slaves while they systematically rape our constitution and loot every ounce of human dignity and worth from this planet until all that is left is waste.

i think what our government fears the most is that if cannabis DOES become legal, then mass majority will realize they've had a blind pulled over their eyes for the better part of the last century and that we the people of america have allowed corporations and bankers to become our masters. Once enough people come to terms with that there will be an uprising.
we need to take the power back.

THIS is why "skunk is bad"
 
Total D.E.A. propaganda. If it being illigal wont stop people they figure theyll scare you by saying its toxic, all the while the people who actually use it know all to well the truth. When are people gonna wake up and realize alcohol is the real culprit, outlaw that poison that people O.D. and die from everyday. God talkin bout this makes me so damn mad. I cant beleive we live in a society so ass backwards. our senaters and house reps need ta pull there heads outa their asses and stand up straight so they can open there eyes and see what the people want. MEDICAL MARIJUANA and legalize it. The worst part is when they finally do legalize its gonna be for the completely wrong reason- TAXES-$MONEY$. Gotta support those wars.
 

Gm421

Member
In the documentary Marijuana Nation a 2009 release from National Geographic It shows a s.w.a.t team busting a "skunk" grow somewhere in England Im pretty sure. They also show what looks like a 1/2 lb of this so called skunk and it was all small popcorn buds.

They were saying the same things.
Its all bullshit. The documentary and the skunk
 

b8man

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Yup - Skip said it best.

What bothers me is that newspapers can print this kind of stuff and never have to print a retraction. It get's picked up by every paper and repeated on every news service until it's considered fact. And then when you try and explain to people the points that Skip brought up, you're shouted down and laughed at.

The misinformation from the UK press is the reason I can't bring up cannabis with my parents. They've been brainwashed.
 

Skip

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Veteran
Marijuana and Schizophrenia

Marijuana and Schizophrenia

Wikipedia said:
A person diagnosed with schizophrenia may demonstrate auditory hallucinations, delusions, and disorganized and unusual thinking and speech; this may range from loss of train of thought and subject flow, with sentences only loosely connected in meaning, to incoherence, known as word salad, in severe cases.
Here's another approach to this issue:These symptoms are sometimes side effects of using marijuana, especially the loss of train of thought due to short term memory disruption. However these effects are mild and transient, not severe and permanent. For some people these symptoms are not indicative of a disease, they're features of cannabis that they might even enjoy.

What "scientists" need to realize is that these effects DISAPPEAR when you stop using cannabis or switch to another strain of cannabis.

So their study is meaningless if what they determined was schizophrenia was simply some side effects of marijuana, and NOT a permanent change in the mental makeup of the person as they imply.

And yet another way to look at it...

If you are a marijuana user you may be subjected to CHRONIC PARANOIA (no pun intended). Chronic paranoia, meaning you're paranoid on a regular basis because you use/grow marijuana and it's illegal. Anyone can see where chronic paranoia can lead to depression and perhaps schizophrenia and psychosis.

So the cause of the schizophrenia, psychosis, depression and paranoia is not cannabis but the LAWS keeping marijuana illegal!!!

Don't want to be diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder? Then LEGALIZE IT!
 

Hazelnuts

Member
Talk about MISinformation! I don't know where to start with this article.

Hash at only 4% THC? Of course they're referring to soapbar, not hashish. That adulterated shit is more harmful than skunk will ever be. It forces ppl to smoke about 5xs more, and who knows what's in it! Smoking soapbar doesn't even get you high, so comparing it to anything is ridiculous.

BTW, there is NO such thing as "skunk" marijuana. It's not a technical term for anything, so unless they have a better definition of what they're talking about, this whole article is nothing but propaganda. Coming from the UK, this is more DEA financed B.S. (they pay for articles/studies like this).

Also, perhaps the real truth is that people with psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia, paranoia and serious depression purposely seek out marijuana as a therapeutic agent, whether they're aware of these symptoms or not. That's even more likely than the scenario posed by this propaganda piece. And they're seeking out the stronger stuff because they get better relief from their symptoms with it.

It's quite likely that they choose to use cannabis instead of getting shit-faced drunk as most Brits do who have these same symptoms and others. They are simply self-medicating with a healthier recreation drug than alcohol or addictive prescriptions.

While I'm often the first to admit that cannabis can make you paranoid, that's mostly a function of the repressive anti-cannabis LAWS, and not the drug itself.


This. Also, notice how they mistake correlation with causation in the article, they say that people with psychotic illnesses were 7x more likely to have used "skunk" than normal weed, however that is only a correlation which doesn't prove anything. Also, I agree about the 4% THC hash, that shit's horrible and those so-called scientists should be ashamed for not doing their homework and actually researching what they're supposed to research instead of blindly following government propaganda. I bet they've never seen any proper hash...

And another point that caught my attention: no wonder the psychotic people were more likely to have used "skunk" than normal weed, a bit further up in the article they tell you that "skunk" accounts for 80% of the UK cannabis market, so it's a question of probability which weed they'll likely run into...

Conclusion:

That article is nothing but bad science (actually it doesn't deserve to be called science at all), and "skunk" does not stand for anything specific, it just means "good weed" for UK people and is a term coined by the British government to produce fear among the population, yet the article makes it seem as if it was something completely different from normal weed and very distinguished. FUCK THOSE ASSHOLES, SERIOUSLY.
 

sac beh

Member
If you are a marijuana user you may be subjected to CHRONIC PARANOIA (no pun intended). Chronic paranoia, meaning you're paranoid on a regular basis because you use/grow marijuana and it's illegal. Anyone can see where chronic paranoia can lead to depression and perhaps schizophrenia and psychosis.

So the cause of the schizophrenia, psychosis, depression and paranoia is not cannabis but the LAWS keeping marijuana illegal!!!

Don't want to be diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder? Then LEGALIZE IT!

Yep. This was the point of my earlier post. Those who have had the opportunity to smoke in a more liberal country or find themselves a safe environment where they don't need to worry about paternalistic governments ruining their lives over a plant, these people know that the majority of paranoiac symptoms related to cannabis use are caused more than anything by illegalization. Its so counter-intuitive and restrictive to personal freedom to prohibit such a beneficial plant that it could drive a sane person insane!
 
What bothers me is that newspapers can print this kind of stuff and never have to print a retraction. It get's picked up by every paper and repeated on every news service until it's considered fact. And then when you try and explain to people the points that Skip brought up, you're shouted down and laughed at.

The misinformation from the UK press is the reason I can't bring up cannabis with my parents. They've been brainwashed.

EXACTLY the same problem i have with some of my friends..they hear something on the news and believe it as fact.

they dont believe me REAL journalism died years ago

all of todays news is a joke.
 

Hazelnuts

Member
EXACTLY the same problem i have with some of my friends..they hear something on the news and believe it as fact.

they dont believe me REAL journalism died years ago

all of todays news is a joke.

I agree, however I wouldn't be so quick to say that real journalism is dead. I think the problem is just that "real" journalists who actually care for something other than sensationalist headlines that'll get them money don't really care too much about cannabis or think they have more important issues to write about
 
what bullshit,geoffrey guy at gw pharmaceuticals grows a skunk type strain and he is the biggest grower in the uk and you dont here that in the media or them stupid reports.RESIN SEEKER
 

veggiegardener

New member
About twenty years ago, I realized that ALL studies on Cannabis funded by government or the pharmaceutical companies were suspect, and usually a complete distortion.

Why are more people in treatment for Cannabis than any other drug?

Because more people use pot than any other drug, and therefore find themselves in court where they are "Court ordered" to accept rehab.

Even if they have NO history of chronic use.

It is the silliest claim ever made by our government.

A good test:

If any news story about Cannabis is based on a "government study", it is 100% certain that it contains nothing of value.

42 years, loving this herb.
 

URUK

Member
what bullshit,geoffrey guy at gw pharmaceuticals grows a skunk type strain and he is the biggest grower in the uk and you dont here that in the media or them stupid reports.RESIN SEEKER

good point, sativex is derived from Skunk no 1 is it not..... I'd love them to have an open debate on all this, they'd be ripped apart.

I mean if its green its classed as skunk thats how much they don't know... just a shame so many mail/express readers go for it.... sure people have problems off drugs same as they do off booze and other medication.. horses for courses.....
 

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