Silver's second straight-bulb several strain sweetened soil sweetness. Seriously.

[MileHighGuy]

The Sphagnum used in Pro-Mix is not the same! Well, I should say that is starts out close to the same.

Here is a scale for quality. The Von Post Scale.

http://www.science.ulst.ac.uk/vft/vonPost.htm

The Bales of Sphagnum Peat moss are H1-H2

The Pro-Mix and bagged soils use a much lower grade.

Also, when Mixed together into a medium for these Pro-Mix solutions, they heat it up and blend it and chop it and dry it then add back moisture and a wetting agent.... The other stuff is just bagged at the source and sent to the store.

Make your own pro-mix next time, you'll be stoked. I just switched and the results have been fantastic... but besides that, the information makes sense.

What do you suppose in the aptus pellets that you can't do on you're own using almost any organic additive?

Hell, some organic Sea Kelp pellets, Comfrey Pellets or alfalfa pellets could probably do more than these....

Okay, Now I'm done ranting. I know you'll be fine either way, just hoping I don't come off like I'm trying to tell you how to do it... I just know that we both like to have the best gear... and lately it seems the slick marketing guys just charge more for inferior growing techniques... with absolutely no proof because we don't even know whats in it! I mean come one.... we are smoking this shit. I think you might be accurate in fearing there are potential harmful ingredients in them....

Now where did I leave that damn lighter at?....

 

[DHF]

Well Bro.....If the shit`s free and yas can actually do a side by side , then as yas said.......why not....and yeah......

Seems like buncha hype , especially with the misdirected hidden facts bout what`s actually in the shit.......but....again.....

What`s it gonna hurt ta try it cuz......it`s free .......

Always had an open mind , but never fell for Big Mike`s Advanced Nutrients bullshit hype back in the day since basically NPK is NPK , but I never discounted any new products till they were tested and proven or disproved.......so.......

SH....Respect......and.......

Handle it.......Freds.............

 

[Avinash.miles]

SH, id love to see a side by side w & wo the aptus rabbit food pellets.... keep up the good work

that ND looks great btw

 

[Jonnybgood29]

Its funny that the one is salicic acid...... In other words liquid asprin! 2 dollars at the dollar store to make two bottles of their liquid! Priceless

 

[otis33]

I would also like to see an honest side by side. Jack mayhoffer has tons of people hopping on the aptus bandwagon. He has super dialed warehouse grows with scores of lights. I'd like to see the results worth someone doing it more my scale.

 

[MileHighGuy]

Its funny that the one is salicic acid...... In other words liquid asprin! 2 dollars at the dollar store to make two bottles of their liquid! Priceless

Aspirin has a major ingredient - Salicylic Acid which I'm sure is similar to Silicic acid.

On the website they spell it out like this. Silicic Acid (Si) – Nutrient transporter

Si = Silicon

I think they say silicic acid because it is made chemically and they also don't want to expose the basic ingredient that is the same as many cheaper products which use a similar rate of feeding but I'm guessing theirs is less potent than protekt at 7.8%

All of the benefits they list are the benefits of Silicon.

 

[Mister_D]

I have my doubts about the product also, but i'd love to see a side by side silver . Like freds, I never write off a new product until i've seen some real world testing.....

 

[Jonnybgood29]

Thanks for setting me straight mhg. Just did a lot of reading on it and found several very trchnical articles on silicic acid, none of which mentioned the specific compound they do for silicic acid compounds. Theres sounds like they are chemically producing it with some form of acid strong enough to dissolve the silica. Seems like i would be wary of it myself

Found it, using hcl(muriatic acid) to dissolve the silica. Potent stuff . Be caeful sh. Might cause ph to nosedive.

 

[MileHighGuy]

Silver's second straight-bulb several strain sweetened soil sweetness. Seriously.

I have my doubts about the product also, but i'd love to see a side by side silver . Like freds, I never write off a new product until i've seen some real world testing.....

I never use a product unless the company has integrity and will display their ingredients.

I'll write off most products without real world testing.... Like humanure and urine might be awesome as far as results go.... But I ain't trying it! Lol

This is a dirty trick and most companies that don't display ingredients do so for a good reason. Unfortunately it's only good for them and not us.

Anyways. On with the test grow.... I really will shut up now.

 

[silver hawaiian]

(I thought I already posted this?!)

I'm really lovin' all the discussion to and fro, .. I'm so grateful to have all of you folks around as resources of sorts, and when this kind of discussion gets rolling, it's even better than all the dick and fart jokes, combined.

MHG, no need to sheaddyap - very valuable content y'all are adding here..

Drumroll

Final tally on the Nightmare Diesel I just yanked

In a 3 gal dirt pot (not full - closer to 2.5 gal?)

Trimmed, dry, off the bone, sans lumber

101.1 g

Personal best, for the container size, that's fa sho.

 

[Jonnybgood29]

Good tally on the nightmare my friend! see your starting to get her dialed in.
You can pm me if you want more on the specifics i learned with her.

 

[Avinash.miles]

great job Silver, ND killin it vert sweetend soil seriously

 

[MileHighGuy]

Well If I'm not shutting up.... then how bout this:

NICE Nightmare Bro!

(Feels weird saying that haha)

 

[silver hawaiian]

Good tally on the nightmare my friend! see your starting to get her dialed in.
You can pm me if you want more on the specifics i learned with her.

That I will do! I'd have to say, the main lesson I've learned with her is to keep up on the N for the first 3-4 weeks of flower, .. She's HONKERY! Okay, hungry, to those who don't speak hawaiianese.


..but she do like her "veg food" well into the flip..

great job Silver, ND killin it vert sweetend soil seriously

Stupendously stoked!

Well If I'm not shutting up.... then how bout this:

NICE Nightmare Bro!

(Feels weird saying that haha)

Thanks all! I'm really stoked to have progressively better runs with her, .. I mentioned recently that I'm getting a little "bored" with her, .. I suppose "bored" ain't a fair word to use.

What's the right word? Not sure. She'll continue to be a staple in the stable, y'dig? Just excited to find some similar long-term keepers goin'..

 

[silver hawaiian]

Gotta take the bad with the good, eh?

Gotta take the bad with the good, eh?

Heh. I had a more watchful and gigantic eyeball examine the StrawDD (and ND, I think..?) from the last run..

Contained in her smoky goodness were mite carcasses (carcii?) and mite poop. DOH!

Also was told there were fungus gnat carcasses, .. Which is kind of funny, since just days ago, I discovered their f*ckin' larvae..

Anyway. I've not ever seen fliers, but heck - if someone found dead bodies, whaddamigonnasay?!

So, that was the humbling news. Not entirely profound, as I'd had a small spat with the mites during this run.

FWIW, I've still definitely NOT gotten the hang of things with this plant (StrawDD).

But, dead bodies & poop be damned, she tested at 21% THC.

StrawDD - now with more carbon and chitin!

 

[MileHighGuy]

Silver's second straight-bulb several strain sweetened soil sweetness. Seriously.

No chit?

 

[Mister_D]

I mentioned recently that I'm getting a little "bored" with her, .. I suppose "bored" ain't a fair word to use.

What's the right word? Not sure. She'll continue to be a staple in the stable, y'dig? Just excited to find some similar long-term keepers goin'..

You might want to pester bobble. I hear he has something *new* for you

 

[Ichabod Crane]

But, dead bodies & poop be damned, she tested at 21% THC.

StrawDD - now with more carbon and chitin!

Sweet free weight and a high THC number. You are my hero.

 

[silver hawaiian]

No chit?

Not chit, not chet!

You might want to pester bobble. I hear he has something *new* for you

Sweet free weight and a high THC number. You are my hero.

I know, right?! So of that 101.1 g on the ND last night, I'm guessing at least 10g was dead critters.

But, easy easy easy, .. I don't know who (you maybe?! Mega?), but I remember one's a'yas has the market cornered on insect-ridden dope. Please pardon me - I promise I'm not trying to make inroads to y'alls niche..

 

[MileHighGuy]

Sometimes in the veggie garden the bugs taste just like what they live on....

In this cases, they taste like a fucking nightmare! hahaha

Bon appetit!

But in all reality, I'd smoke that shit over some Powdery Mildew or some eagle 20 sauced up nuggers.

Waked and baked on my day off already. Can you tell?