Silver's second straight-bulb several strain sweetened soil sweetness. Seriously.

[DHF]

Silver, hate to break it to ya, but if they work for ya you'll be the first. Oh it's not that they won't eat the bugs they are supposed to, it's their unnatural attraction to that brightly burning orb in the middle of your room....... Hope ya have a shop vac around there somewhere, cuz you're gonna have lotsa crispy critters on the floor in the next week...... Floramite and forbid are 30 bucks for an ounce that will last you forever on ebay.

Yeah that...

The borg are not to be taken lightly my buddy.......spidermites can fuck up yer lil world with the quickness.........ESPECIALLY once they`re advanced enough for yas to notice even "slight webbing".......

As said by Dbro , floramite first , and forbid if needed with extreme prejudice and git `er done......Hope it`s not that bad SH.....

Peace...Freds..............

 

[Avinash.miles]

i mix floramite & tetrasan ovacide to battle the borg...
my2c

 

[silver hawaiian]

Thanks all! I'm not terribly concerned at this point. I've been keeping things at bay with Spinosad - the ladybugs were a cheap novelty, thought I'd give 'em a whirl..

I've got about 15-20 days left on everyone left in the flower room, .. And after that, it's bomb city! Clean sweep.

I'm on a good schedule w Azamax, but I lay off once bud formation really takes off... From there, I sort of "spot treat" with the spinosad on later-flowering plants, as needed, .. Which, thankfully, ain't all that often.

 

[Mister_D]

I'm inclined to ask, why are you happy just controling them? If it was me, i'd wait till the current round is harvested, spray everything with floramite on day 1,3, and 6, also set off bug bombs on day 1 and 3. As long as you are through with your sprays this will eliminate all of them. I understand your preference to keeping things organic, but a couple applications of floramite/forbid is ultmately less exposure than constantly spraying azamax etc.

 

[silver hawaiian]

I'm inclined to ask, why are you happy just controling them? If it was me, i'd wait till the current round is harvested, spray everything with floramite on day 1,3, and 6, also set off bug bombs on day 1 and 3. As long as you are through with your sprays this will eliminate all of them. I understand your preference to keeping things organic, but a couple applications of floramite/forbid is ultmately less exposure than constantly spraying azamax etc.

That's a good thought - the perspective of nuclear fewer times vs. regular azamax..

Honestly, when I see mites at this level, I don't get too worried. Definitely on my toes, but not with a flamethrower in hand (as may've been the case in years past).

At the tail ends of my runs is the only time I've seen the borg. I'm always able to contain/treat to the finish line without any significant effect.. (We're talking about minor stippling on 4-5 leaves, for example).

At any rate, I'm comfortable managing it for the next few weeks, after which I'll go bananas on the shit.

My MO thus far has been (in between runs) to bomb, usually 2x, .. One, followed by another 2 days later, .. And depending on my superstition and gut science, maybe a third.

I'm generally using the Azamax every ~ 14 days, during veg, and into early flower.

I'd love to hear any input - but you're right, I do prefer the solutions to be as granola in nature as possible.



Edit: Through my rambling, what I really meant to convey was this: Containment is sufficient at this stage, and in ~ 20 days, when everyone comes out, I'm gonna break out the begood stick and won't be so affable in my recourse.

 

[high life 45]

I kick mites ass with azamax or azatrol. Just have to keep up on it. I saw some on one plant this round, I cut off and removed infected leaves and sprayed with azamax 2x in a week and no sign of them at all. The biggest problem with mites is when the eggs get in the soil. you beat them and they come back.

One trick I like to use is turning the temps up to get them to hatch and cycle through life stages faster. Anytime I get a new room first thing I do is get it up to 90 with all the equipment (no plants) in there for a few days. Then its bug bomb time.

Dunking your plants is another good way to ensure full coverage, I cut a hole in the center of a paper plate with a slit going to it from the edge. put this over your media and dunk the plant for a good 30 seconds while shaking the air bubbles out. I prefer dunk for full coverage, but when you are dealing with a four foot tree in veg. spraying works fine.

Azamax needs to be used more often than 2x a month to get the job done.

After dealing with root aphids, I laugh at spider mites, I havent had broadmites and hear that they are nasty lil buggers. I have an ounce of floramite that is 3 years old. ITs just gonna get older.. I knew this guy who swore by it and he would "beat" mites and they kept coming back. Floramite works well because its an ovacide (kills eggs). This dudes problem was carpet. He was basically breeding mites that were building up a resistance, this is the reason I dont like people using hardcore stuff. Most indoor growers do a half assed job and the rest of the world has to deal with it. This same guy was spraying floramite late into flower....WTF!!

 

[Jonnybgood29]

Thanks for the props my friend

 

[silver hawaiian]

I kick mites ass with azamax or azatrol. Just have to keep up on it. I saw some on one plant this round, I cut off and removed infected leaves and sprayed with azamax 2x in a week and no sign of them at all. The biggest problem with mites is when the eggs get in the soil. you beat them and they come back.

One trick I like to use is turning the temps up to get them to hatch and cycle through life stages faster. Anytime I get a new room first thing I do is get it up to 90 with all the equipment (no plants) in there for a few days. Then its bug bomb time.

Dunking your plants is another good way to ensure full coverage, I cut a hole in the center of a paper plate with a slit going to it from the edge. put this over your media and dunk the plant for a good 30 seconds while shaking the air bubbles out. I prefer dunk for full coverage, but when you are dealing with a four foot tree in veg. spraying works fine.

Azamax needs to be used more often than 2x a month to get the job done.

After dealing with root aphids, I laugh at spider mites, I havent had broadmites and hear that they are nasty lil buggers. I have an ounce of floramite that is 3 years old. ITs just gonna get older.. I knew this guy who swore by it and he would "beat" mites and they kept coming back. Floramite works well because its an ovacide (kills eggs). This dudes problem was carpet. He was basically breeding mites that were building up a resistance, this is the reason I dont like people using hardcore stuff. Most indoor growers do a half assed job and the rest of the world has to deal with it. This same guy was spraying floramite late into flower....WTF!!

Hey HL! Happy to have ya here!

I've decided I'm just going to keep up with the Azamax every 3 days, with a cold water rinse in between..

I'm actually purdy durnd confident I can lick 'em without getting too nook-ya-lur. And if I can't, then we'll call in the air strike - but only after harvest, nawmsayin?

Thanks for the props my friend

Aaaaaand HERE he is - the man of the hour, the tower of power, with crosses TOO SWEET to be SOUR!



So glad to have you back my friend! Your prized ND has become quite the staple in my room..

Someone, get this man a beer! :friends:

 

[silver hawaiian]

ChemD post-mortem

ChemD post-mortem

35 g



By no means is she a good benchmark, but it's still a bum deal.

She was a little shocked when I put her in - though I think I underestimated her condtion (or her resiliancy). So, I think I tried to build a house on a lousy foundation.

She didn't seem to stretch much at all either, which may well be a result of the derp from the giddyup.

Generally, I expect to pull about an oz per gallon of container. (I don't plan on it, in a 'counting my chickens' kinda way, but it's what I expect of myself, only because I've done it before)

She was in a less-than-full 3 gal smartie, so let's call it 2.5 gallons. So, from that perspective, it's a bust. But, extenuating circumstances, incompetent driver, blahblahblah, ...

You know in what other way it's not a bust?

It's some seriously dank smoke.

First tester was less-than-ideal circumstances, .. After two (2) pints at the bar, I took a couple hits from a pipe.



Found myself smoking more later, if only because it tastes so f*cking good. But it's really stoney too.

Usually, when I get a solid taster like that, I get an immediate sort of recall to place it (however relatable).. This was more like, .. "WOW YUM, .. What is that? It's not really musky, .. And not overly sweet or light.. Kind of right in between, with a hint of pine.." Kind of a yummy vagueness to it - but that could also just be my brain.

I like it.

 

[MileHighGuy]

I was using azamax... but I hate paying for it! ...after learning about the basic ingredient in it, I've decided to opt for the Neem Oil or Karanja oil route.. see what you think?

The active ingredient in AzaMax is Azadirachtin

Azadirachtin is not Neem oil. Neem oil contains Azadirachtin - along with 355 other Secondary Metabolites and there at least 3 that are far more effective as a biopesticide. (Neem: Today and in the New Millennium - Drs. Opender Koul & Seema Wahab and Clackamas Cootz)

There are a couple of good places to get organic neem for a good price online.

 

[MileHighGuy]

Found myself smoking more later, if only because it tastes so f*cking good. But it's really stoney too.

That's when you know you have a good one to keep around! haha

I always go back to a certain jar each time I have variety on hand.

How you been Silver?

 

[Jonnybgood29]

Sounds like the chemd is a keeper my friend

 

[DHF]

Oz per gal `s the normal standard to strive for in soil grows SH , so you`re on point for returns Bro , but all smartpots are smaller than actual gallon containers as are ALL nursery containers......

My # 5 smartpots held lil over 3 gals of actual coco mix , and that`s slap full....so.......your # 3`s close to full maybe had 1.5 maybe 2 gals of soil mixture if I hadta guess......that said......

Don`t beat yerself up bout that finicky cal/mag whore ass Chem D cuz it ain`t a cakewalk ta dial her elite self , but once yas find her sweet spot , you`ll never wanna let her go cuz she`s a yielder fer sure done right......believe that........

If I had pre-98 Bubba , and true clone only Chem D back fer headies , my insomnia and arthritis med needs would be taken care of across the board for the rest of my days.......

Enjoy and keep dialin Bro......

Peace.....Freds...........

 

[silver hawaiian]

I was using azamax... but I hate paying for it! ...after learning about the basic ingredient in it, I've decided to opt for the Neem Oil or Karanja oil route.. see what you think?

The active ingredient in AzaMax is Azadirachtin

Azadirachtin is not Neem oil. Neem oil contains Azadirachtin - along with 355 other Secondary Metabolites and there at least 3 that are far more effective as a biopesticide. (Neem: Today and in the New Millennium - Drs. Opender Koul & Seema Wahab and Clackamas Cootz)

There are a couple of good places to get organic neem for a good price online.

Y'know, that's a good question, .. I used to use neem, though I do feel (just based on experience and gut science) that the Azamax is a little more heavy-handed..

I also seem to feel that the neem oil alone (diluted, with ProteKt) seemed to leave more residue on the plants..

This time 'round, I threw some neem seed meal in the dirt mix. I've been wondering what effect that's having on these little fuckers.

I have to say *knock wood* things appear to be well under control. I've basically stopped finding stippled leaves, ..

Today was round two of the Azamax blasters - last time was Tuesday.. Last night they got a blaster of some chillywill water, ..

(Good thing humidity is < 35%!)

That's when you know you have a good one to keep around! haha

I always go back to a certain jar each time I have variety on hand.

How you been Silver?

Yeah, she will be a regular dietary staple.

Things have been good man - crazy busy with life and work and family stuff, been spending far less time gardening.. Which is better and worse, .. Well, the wife thinks it's better anyway.

Sounds like the chemd is a keeper my friend

Well.. I'll have to retrieve her, since she was a one-and-done deal in my space.. DOH! All good.

Oz per gal `s the normal standard to strive for in soil grows SH , so you`re on point for returns Bro , but all smartpots are smaller than actual gallon containers as are ALL nursery containers......

My # 5 smartpots held lil over 3 gals of actual coco mix , and that`s slap full....so.......your # 3`s close to full maybe had 1.5 maybe 2 gals of soil mixture if I hadta guess......that said......

Don`t beat yerself up bout that finicky cal/mag whore ass Chem D cuz it ain`t a cakewalk ta dial her elite self , but once yas find her sweet spot , you`ll never wanna let her go cuz she`s a yielder fer sure done right......believe that........

If I had pre-98 Bubba , and true clone only Chem D back fer headies , my insomnia and arthritis med needs would be taken care of across the board for the rest of my days.......

Enjoy and keep dialin Bro......

Peace.....Freds...........

She's a good smoke, that's for sure. As for the killer performance under [her] ideal conditions, I'll have to take everyone's word..

But I have to say, this Nightmare Diesel is so f*cking prolific, stanky, tasty, and effective, ... She's like my own personal ELEET .. (Let's be clear, it ain't mine by any means -- thanks brotha jbg29! -- but I'm as jazzed about her as the masses seem to be about certain varieties NOT named Nightmare Diesel).. She's a keeeeeeper for sure!

Oh. Speaking of less time in the garden, .. Came down a week or so back to a runaway blumat in the StrawDD, .. So I sucked the juice out of the saucer, cleaned up the floor, and tightened up the blumat a smidgen.

Turns out I'd actually overcorrected, and she got a bit dry for a couple days. Not like ZOMG MURDER dry, but enough to make a few leaves twist and curl, and I'm not sure those'ns are coming back..

Seriously, I should almost put an alcohol breathalyzer interlock deal on the garden door..

 

[bobblehead]

Every elite clone came from a seed someone grew... Don't be ashamed to rock the ND. I've got this chem d over here waiting... I should have 1 or 2 to spare in a couple weeks.

 

[silver hawaiian]

Dude - if none'a y'all can tell thus far, ain't NO shame in rockin' the ND! I've been shouting about her from the highest mountaintops I can find, since the second I realized what a badass broad she is. ND gets RESPECK

I have to admit, I'm reflexively leery of most ELITE DANK BRAH varieties, if only because I figure I'll probably be disappointed in the result v. hype.

Under the radar, that's where I believe more goodness lies, vs. in all of the ZOMG and BRAH.

I mean, really - what are we growing here, plants or names?!

 

[silver hawaiian]

DOHuble post

 

[drifting]

great thread and pics silver

 

[Jonnybgood29]

Glad you like the nd my friend. As it turns out you do have an elite in her as I lost all my seeds and genes of her
She definately holds her own against the best elites

 

[silver hawaiian]

A little birdie told me there may be some beans of her around..