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Sick Leaves...prognosis?

MynameStitch

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i would wait a bit to put them into flowering they will have no where near the amount to finish out flowering

they still need nitrogen in flower but no whre near the amount they need in veg
so adding some fish emulsion once a week in flowering will be good
just wait about a week to switch to bloom ferts

like lets say you just put them into flowering

dont switch over to bloom ferts yet wait 1 week then switch over to bloom ferts but still use the fish emulsion if your bloom fert has very low or no nitrogen in it

you dont want to double up the niterogen it will slow the flowering process down
 

persianp

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But for now if i used a combo of earth juice grow, liquid seaweed, and fish emulsion would that be too much?
 

MynameStitch

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yes way tio much just use one only not all of them they are all good in rich nitrogen

use 1 tsp to 2 tsp of one of them in a gall on of water
 

Blackmelo

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very good advice so far.
I'd also tip on Nitrogen and Magnesium deficiency.
For such a serious deficiency I would feed 2 teaspoons of epsom salts per gallon for the next 2 weeks (every watering) and 1 teaspoon per gallon from then on.

Like MynameStitch has said, you have flushed all your nutes out of your soil and will need to provide them on a regular basis from now on. Don't feed plain water in between.
You can afford to do that with a rich soil but not one that contains no nutes.
 
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persianp

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Thanks a lot MynameStitch and Blackmelo....I'm planning on flowering at the start of April, do you guys think this would be too early, as far as building up a nutrient stockpiles goes?

Thanks for the responses again...been a great help, although leaves and such are still dying, (cuz i'm waiting for the soil to dry out between waterings), a lot of the leaves are looking happier and i feel more at peace within myself. I've kinda been floundering as to what to do, I'm glad there are still resources on the web that one can find info on...thanks a lot guys.
 
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Blackmelo

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good luck, keep us updated,
I'd really be interested to see em in 2 weeks time.

Hope it works out for ya and watch your ph. You want something between 6.4-6.9 ideally


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Hmm I just noticed something.. Mynamestitch, maybe you can help me with this one. Persianp says his soil mix is a soiless medium...

Is castings and vermiculite a soilless medium? Cause if it is ph should be considerably lower but I've never used soillesss before and don't really know what is classified as soil or soilless.

Is coco soilless?
 
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aeric

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when using perlite/vermiculite mix u need to give them a milder fert every watering (regardless of the castings) rather than a stronger fert every other...that is better suited to regular potting soil. Then u can either aim for roughly 20% runoff every watering to give them a mild flush, or give them plain water every 2 weeks or 4 waterings, whichever/whatever seems to work. Try to keep pH in the high 5, low 6 range. It is ok for them to have a little moisture when u water, they don't need to be bone dry, but only a slight dampness. This reduces stress and is permissable because your mixture has alot of porosity and air.
 

aeric

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By milder I mean less than what u would be used to for soil, because the nutrients are more available to the plants than in soil. What percentage to use of the nutes recommended strength really depends on the brand of nute...PPMs would be the best judge but your nutes are organic, so trial and error is the best judge, unless someone here uses the same nutes in the same medium under the same lighting, etc..... sorry that sounded more confusing than helpful.
 

persianp

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No it sounds educated, that makes sense...but since it's trial and error, is there a benchmark to start at and increase? Like maybe at a 1/4 strength and keep building up, and checking ph until a happy medium is achieved?
 

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